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    #161

    Oct 16, 2013, 09:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by earl237 View Post
    When Timothy McVeigh was arrested after the Oklahoma City bombing, he was wearing a shirt with the "tree of liberty" quote, so it's not a good idea to be using it here.
    I may make it my signature . So now someone using a founder's quote is to be censured ?
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    Oct 16, 2013, 09:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I don't know how this will play out . Maybe I'm taking the long view of this . Maybe Goldwater got trounced ,and Reagan had to lose to the beltway insider Rockefeller Repubics before he took control of the party and was twice elected . Sometimes a losing battle is worth fighting .
    I know what your side wants... an opposition party that isn't really an opposition party.
    Unlike many, I have no problem with principled opposition, and am fully prepared for it and embrace it. You guys have never given up, and its foolish to expect you to and I fully support your right to fight the good fight.

    Go for it. I am!
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    #163

    Oct 16, 2013, 09:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I may make it my signature . So now someone using a founder's quote is to be censured ?
    He said its not a good idea, where did you get censure from? No body's doing that.
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    #165

    Oct 16, 2013, 10:20 AM
    Everything McClintock says is also true of the republican party as well. The divisiveness is absolute, there is very rarely any working together... ever.
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    #166

    Oct 16, 2013, 10:47 AM
    Nope ,the House has done it's job... they have passed many budgets that lie in dust on Harry Reid's shelves . It is the intentional strategy of the Dems to not put their budgets up for votes that has led to the CR and debt crisis . But that was their plan... They have effectively usurped the power of the purse from the House of Reps .
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    #167

    Oct 16, 2013, 01:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    His rescue of the auto industry was apparently some sort of success, maybe the ACA will work eventually, it takes time and a willingness to make it work, but all he has had in the last three years is negative politics and obstructionism so it is no wonder there isn't a lot to show, excepting an economic recovery that happened despite the job creators and the negativity

    The Auto indistry is bailing right out of here. How is that a success of anykind? Unless of course you happen to be China.


    GM's big plans for China includes more Cadillac models

    General Motors Is Riding High In China--For Now - Forbes

    General Motors Leaves U.S. Workers by the Wayside as it Accelerates Operations in China - Money Morning

    General Motors Leaves U.S. Workers by the Wayside as it Accelerates Operations in China
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    #168

    Oct 16, 2013, 01:46 PM
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    Oct 16, 2013, 02:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    The Auto indistry is bailing right out of here. How is that a success of anykind? Unless of course you happen to be China.


    GM's big plans for China includes more Cadillac models

    General Motors Is Riding High In China--For Now - Forbes

    General Motors Leaves U.S. Workers by the Wayside as it Accelerates Operations in China - Money Morning

    General Motors Leaves U.S. Workers by the Wayside as it Accelerates Operations in China
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    By Jason Simpkins, Managing Editor, Money Morning
    May 18, 2009

    More recent news.

    http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...-positive-by-s

    http://autos.aol.com/article/auto-sales-september-2013/

    http://www.businessweek.com/articles...-booming-sales

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...rd-raised.html
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    #170

    Oct 16, 2013, 02:16 PM
    That's not what he said.

    “Well, David, you know at every stage, my prayer to God is that His will be done,” Cruz insisted. “As it will be.”
    That's entirely different from your pathetic snipe, but feel free to mangle his words and hate on him some more.
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    #171

    Oct 16, 2013, 02:29 PM
    hate on him some more
    I didn't hate on him, I just reported what god said.
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    #172

    Oct 16, 2013, 02:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I didn't hate on him, I just reported what god said.
    God doesn't lie.
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    #173

    Oct 16, 2013, 02:32 PM
    Religious types are all nutso.
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    #174

    Oct 16, 2013, 02:41 PM
    Ted Cruz Will Not Block Vote On Senate Deal

    On to the next "CRISIS"(?).
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    Oct 16, 2013, 02:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Ted Cruz Will Not Block Vote On Senate Deal

    On to the next "CRISIS"(?).
    And that would be amnesty, then anything else to change the subject from the disaster that is Obamacare.
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    #176

    Oct 16, 2013, 02:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Religious types are all nutso.
    I see you accepted my invitation.
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    #177

    Oct 16, 2013, 02:48 PM
    So God is alive and well and living in the USA? I have a blast for you. That place does not resemble heaven but then you have been serving another god for many years
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    Oct 16, 2013, 02:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And that would be amnesty, then anything else to change the subject from the disaster that is Obamacare.
    Nobody expects you to stop squealing repeal. But don't expect a captive audience. I think the hostages are escaping, stay tuned though.
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    #179

    Oct 16, 2013, 02:58 PM
    So God is alive and well and living in the USA? I have a blast for you. That place does not resemble heaven but then you have been serving another god for many years
    The USA has made a mockery of christianity.
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    Oct 16, 2013, 02:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Nobody expects you to stop squealing repeal. But don't expect a captive audience. I think the hostages are escaping, stay tuned though.
    It's not about hollering and squealing, it's about manipulating the news cycle.
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