Hello:

Will DEFAULT ruin us, or is it just a liberal plot?

The Tea Party's JOB is to shrink government.. IF they actually FORCE us into default, in order NOT to ACTUALLY default, the government will have to SLASH around $600 BILLION worth of discretionary spending, IMMEDIATELY...

The Tea Party will LOVE it. That's what they WANT. And, that's what they're going to do.

Tell me it ain't so.

excon

I heard that the TP actually may be trying to get rid of the Office of the President so that there will be only two branches of government.

Hello Carol:

They are clearly trying to destroy the presidency... Like during the McCarthy era, some grownup needs to tell the tea party to shut the F**K up.

excon

If there is a default it will be the actions of the emperor... not Congress . Question his motives. Why is he ginning up the worse fears hoping for a market response before the deadline?

The One's motives are above reproach don't you know?

What shutdown? Every time the headlines read about somebody suffering because of no government, Bonehead and the TParty write a bill. At this rate, we will have the good ole US of A running full tilt in the next century. Depends on how many TParty presidents we get elected.

Or by next month we will be so ashamed of ourselves, we will destroy the TParty, like we should have done 4 years ago.

So you don't think the items in the budget should be debated ? Yeah I get it.. just rubber stamp current spending ,tack on c.o.l.'s and add more spending priorities on top of the existing budget ad infinitum . That's how we get to where we are having a debt greater than the GDP. It's got to end one way or the other... by scaling back ,or free fall. It's the conservatives that have the correct perspective and giving sob stories in the praetorian press doesn't change that fact . If you have concerns about something not getting funded then how can your side vote against the individual funding issues ?

To Dems it's not about getting anything funded, it's all about winning and hopefully destroying the GOP in the process. That is ALL that matters to them.

Hello again, tom:

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so you don't think the items in the budget should be debated ?

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Sure.. But, not with a gun to our head. What kind of negotiation is THAT?? By threatening to default if you don't get what you want ISN'T negotiation.. It's EXTORTION. Negotiation happens when NOBODY is held hostage by the negotiations.

That AIN'T what you're doing, and even you can't pretend you are.

Excon

Release the hostages! Doesn't matter what your ransom is! You psycho deadbeats!!

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Hello again, tom:
Sure.. But, not with a gun to our head. What kind of negotiations is THAT???

excon

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What the hell is Obama and Reid doing with their all or nothing, we will not negotiate under any circumstances tactic? Really, ex? Don't give me that Republicans are negotiating with a gun to their head BS, it is your side that refuses to even talk. How does one negotiate if one side refuses to talk?

P.S. But hey, thank God Obama is taking on the Washington Redskins since there's nothing else to worry about.

Hello again, Steve:

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What the hell is Obama and Reid doing with their all or nothing, we will not negotiate under any circumstances tactic? Really,

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Let's review, shall we?

What you want to negotiate is something that you COULDN'T win in congress, COULDN'T win in the Supreme Court, and COULDN'T win in the last election...

Well my friend, you ain't going to win it now. And, holding the country hostage until you DO, AIN'T our DEMOCRATIC process. It's EXTORTION, plain and simple.

Excon

You have been refusing to talk for 8 months, and the last time you tried this strategy we got downgraded.

It's everybody's fault but yours. Your hands are as dirty as ours but we admit that imperfection, while you think you have cornered the market on perfection. SAD!

You two are delusional.

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You two are delusional.

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Wow! I really worked on that post. It was well thought out. I used good English. It was cogent, succinct, accurate and witty. Where did I go wrong?

Let's review. If you COULD have won in congress, you WOULD have. But, you LOST. If you COULD have won in the Supreme Court, you WOULD have.. But, you LOST. If you COULD have won in the last election, you WOULD have, but you LOST.

What do you NOT get about our democratic system? If I'm delusional, tell me where my FACTS are wrong. Oh, you don't LIKE the facts, I know, but that doesn't entitle you to make up your own.

Over to you, winger.

Excon

Before the wingers jump in Ex, its to be expected that after all the past failures of the right, they would be desperate to validate their hollering and squealing of the past 5 years.

That's why we are delusional, because we keep winning despite their best efforts. So please, show sympathy for the minority.

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Hello again, Steve:
Wow! I really worked on that post. It was well thought out. I used good English. It was cogent, succinct, accurate and witty. Where did I go wrong??

Let's review. If you COULD have won in congress, you WOULD have. But, you LOST. If you COULD have won in the Supreme Court, you WOULD have.. But, you LOST. If you COULD have won in the last election, you WOULD have, but you LOST.

What do you NOT get about our democratic system?? If I'm delusional, tell me where my FACTS are wrong. Oh, you don't LIKE the facts, I know, but that doesn't entitle you to make up your own.

Over to you, winger.

excon

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Winning or losing the presidential election has nothing to do with it, Obama refuses to do his job and negotiate. In fact, he called Boehner just to tell him he wasn't talking to him. So if you two think it's all the GOP's fault and they should roll over for the dictator you're delusional.

The House has continued to put forth legislation and the dictator and the Senate Dems refuse to let it see the light of day. That would be the same Dingy harry Reid that refused to put out a budget for several years AS REQUIRED BY LAW, and the same dictator that said no one was going to stop the sequester cuts he supported. Like I said, we're not stupid... history doesn't change because you keep repeating the same BS.

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Before the wingers jump in Ex, its to be expected that after all the past failures of the right, they would be desperate to validate their hollering and squealing of the past 5 years.

That's why we are delusional, because we keep winning despite their best efforts. So please, show sympathy for the minority.

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The only reason Dems win is because they lie incessantly, continually move the goalpost and the media covers for them. Obamacare is built entirely on a lie, and you cover for the lies in this debate.

Obamacare Snake Oil | National Review Online

Hello again, Steve:

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The House has continued to put forth legislation and the dictator and the Senate Dems refuse to let it see the light of day.

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I don't know WHY you have such an aversion to the truth. (Hey. Let's start a thread with that name.)

Here's the TRUTH. You want the president to negotiate SETTLED law, and if he doesn't, you'll crash the economy.

I can keep on saying that, and I'll probably have to.

Excon

I think the Prez is doing a fine job, even if you guys don't think so, well maybe he isn't progressive enough by my standards, but he drives you guys nutsy bozo, so he can't be too bad.

Now Ted Cruz being president of the US is delusional. And that's putting it mildly.