[paraclete]

Of course the boy is confused he is not a native american, he may not even know where Alaska is after all he thinks it is part of Hawaii but be assured of this he has now heard of the Asia/Pacific and will put all his efforts into conquering it for the american people

That has to be better than Cain who seems to know his name and little else.

[talaniman]

Quote by paraclete;
of course the boy is confused he is not a native american,

Born in Hawaii, of an American mother, makes him American born, and the only native Americans here are American Indians, and to further supply you with MORE facts, the term "boy" when applied to a Black American, president or not is a RED FLAG for RACIST thinking by the user.

So which is it just so we can be clear, are you a RACIST, misinformed, or just plain... tired and mistyped.

he may not even know where Alaska is afterall he thinks it is part of Hawaii

Show me the facts to back up such an absurd statement, or is this an attempt at humor that I am taking out of CONTEXT.

but be assured of this he has now heard of the Asia/Pacific and will put all his efforts into conquering it for the american people

You meant conquering through economic means RIGHT??

That has to be better than Cain who seems to know his name and little else.

He knows PIZZA, and that's a point of respect in America, but I do agree, as far as a president goes... NO WAY!

[smoothy]

It happened once. The rest of a fabrication in your mind.

So just because the DNC says that they expect everyone to believe it...

They also say a lot of things... like Pelosi never committed inside trading... Clinton never had sex with Monica Lewinsky... and a thousand other claims with zero basis in fact.

A true liberal believes them just because they say so...

The rest of us have seen the speeches... he was a media whore for years... on TV nearly every day. He put his foot in his mouth many times.

[paraclete]

Born in Hawaii, of an American mother, makes him American born, and the only native Americans here are American Indians, and to further supply you with MORE facts, the term "boy" when applied to a Black American, president or not is a RED FLAG for RACIST thinking by the user.

The ordinary meaning of the term native is a person born in a particular place, so all you have proved is that BO is a native american as perhaps are you. Who is being racist now. We make no distinction here when we describe people, an Australian is an Australian, and American is an American but an Englishman will always be a pommy

So which is it just so we can be clear, are you a RACIST, misinformed, or just plain... tired and mistyped.

Boy as in young, inexperienced, do I have to teach you the meaning of the english language? I live in a land where I can call a man a boy and it might be considered a compliment. We are not so thin skinned. As Don Lane said to Muhhamud Ali on national television "I like the boy". Just because you have corrupted the language over there does not mean that those of us who hold the language as a native tongue, there is that objectionable word again, have to fall in line with you.

Show me the facts to back up such an absurd statement, or is this an attempt at humor that I am taking out of CONTEXT.

Here is one place where his words indicating this or something similar, but demonstrating a lack of knowledge of US geography and political organisation are evident
http//: www.snopes.com: Barack Obama and 57 States
Here is another
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

You meant conquering through economic means RIGHT??

No it is apparent that positioning forward bases demonstrates more than economic intent. This is why the Chinese are developing a blue wter fleet, to counter the US presence off their shores

He knows PIZZA, and that's a point of respect in America, but I do agree, as far as a president goes... NO WAY!

Yes Tal it is clear from the size of your wastelines you respect pizza more than people. So how about climbing down off your high horse and taking that bugger out of your nose so we can have a sane conversation without the overtones?

[Wondergirl]

In the U.S. a native American is an American Indian. A native-born American is someone born in this country.

Paraclete, you and tal are from two different countries. Even though English is a common tongue, the semantics and shades of meaning are a mile wide.

Calling a black man "boy" in this country is a racist insult.

[talaniman]

I guess we all have made mistakes, misspoken, or misunderstood. It happens, but I doubt seriously if our President has a problem in geography, local or global. Nor is he naïve about the self interests of China, or any other country, and sorry if what we do makes your neighbors, and trading partners nervous.

And you can switch from English, to Chinese any time you want to and get the Chinese to protect you from us. That's up to you. I see us as a deterrent to both China, and IRAN and North Korea. As well as protecting our interests and partners in the region, of which Australia is but ONE!

But my personal apology for placing you with the conservative, elitist, snobs, who hide behind language to poke their fingers in eyes of those they feel superior to. Perhaps I was showing my disdain for those who are trying to be the most influential leader in the world, yet appear as babbling, bozos in a circus of stupidity.

And Herman Cain is starting to look like a ringmaster, not a leader.

[TUT317]

Its ignorance to not know there aren't 57 states.....ask any third grader.

It's always better to claim you don't know something than to admit you don't know anything.

Tut

[excon]

But my personal apology for placing you with the conservative, elitist, snobs, who hide behind language to poke their fingers in eyes of those they feel superior to. Perhaps I was showing my disdain for those who are trying to be the most influential leader in the world, yet appear as babbling, bozos in a circus of stupidity.

Hello tal:

No need to apologize. Our friend clete, knows perfectly well what BOY means, and he does indeed HIDE out when called out on it... He and I have been round this tree before..

excon

[paraclete]

Hello tal:

No need to apologize. Our friend clete, knows perfectly well what BOY means, and he does indeed HIDE out when called out on it... He and I have been round this tree before..

excon

Which tree is that, Ex, the old Oak tree or the Cherry tree George Washington cut down? So Old Fog Horn Leghorn isn't popular in america any more, he certainly knew what boy meant, and I notice that Martin Luther King wasn't afraid to use the word negro, but you wouldn't use it today, too afraid of being racist. What a bunch of hypocrites.

Every time you describe someone you refer to that persons race and yet you say you are not racist, What a thin venier. When I refer to someone I don't refer to their race unless I am pointing out some unique characteristic

[talaniman]

Your hatred is palatable, and comes across loud and clear.

[speechlesstx]

and to further supply you with MORE facts, the term "boy" when applied to a Black American, president or not is a RED FLAG for RACIST thinking by the user.

Kind of like calling him "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy", or “light-skinned... with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one." Or how about "A few years ago this guy would have been getting us coffee"?

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

Actually, the remarks are WAYYY different... Your side has difficulty with the MENTION of the words race, or black, or negro. You think if you don't mention them, that makes you free of racism. And, because the other side does mention them, because it realizes that racism is STILL with us, THEY'RE the racists for saying so...

What you NEED to do, is examine the two statements - calling a black man BOY, or complimenting him EVEN if done inarticulately, and see if they're the same... If you think they are, you're a good Republican.. If you don't, you're a good human.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:

Actually, the remarks are WAYYY different... Your side has difficulty with the MENTION of the words race, or black, or negro. You think if you don't mention them, that makes you free of racism.

Damned if do and damned if you don't. That's hardly fair don't you think?

And, because the other side does, because it realizes that racism is STILL with us, THEY'RE the racists for saying so...

Their racists get a pass so again we're damned if we do and damned if we don't.

What you NEED to do, is examine the two statements - calling a black man BOY, or complimenting him EVEN if done inarticulately, and see if they're the same... If you think they are, you're a good Republican.. If you don't, you're a good human.

Nah, I'll give Clete the benefit of the doubt for not being from around here, that makes me reasonable. Being human is to make mistakes.

[talaniman]

I will be honest in that I wanted to know the truth, and not just assume or presume, what clete was conveying. I know sometimes our remarks are not taken in the spirit they are given, and while I can give the benefit of doubt, I don't have a problem with asking to make sure.

I'm human too.

[speechlesstx]

Gosh, are we about ready to sing Kum-ba-ya around here today? By the way, nice job beating up on my team, I just need 25 from my TE tonight to win.

[talaniman]

Singing is cool, tis the season... and I wish you could see me sitting on pins and needles waiting to see the game tonight, we don't need a repeat of the last time, at least I sure don't.

[speechlesstx]

I was on pins and needles watching the Cowboys game yesterday, weren't you?

[Wondergirl]

Were the Bears playing the Cowboys?

[talaniman]

Naw, but I was about to chew my toenails off. Darn near fainted when Washington missed that FG. What took the cake was the Eagles/Giants. No team had ever won this year when the threw 3 INT's. Go figure.

[talaniman]

Were the Bears playing the Cowboys?

My Bears kicked the Chargers a$$!! Cutler is out for the season though, I hear. Darn, just when he was getting warmed up!