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    Nov 7, 2011, 06:17 AM
    Herman Cain
    Hello wingers:

    One of the complaints about Obama was his lack of experience.. Do you REALLY want to put ANOTHER rookie in the White House?

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    Nov 7, 2011, 06:37 AM
    Herman Cain has a lot more experience than Obama has... he has successfully turned around and ran a number of businesses.

    He actually knows what it takes, Obam on the other hand has yet to run anything successfully.

    Witness the current economy as an example of a dismal failure.
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    Nov 7, 2011, 06:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Herman Cain has a lot more experience than Obama has...he has sucessfully turned around and ran a number of businesses.
    Hello smoothy:

    I'm more concerned with how he handled his recent crisis, and how that effects his ability to run the free world..

    Instead of LEADING, he looked like a deer caught in the headlights. He KNEW the story was out there. Early on, HE could have released the information and put HIS spin on it... Why did he think it WOULDN'T come out? That too, causes me concern.. He's running for the leader of the free world. OF COURSE, it would come out. That he was surprised by the exposure, causes me even more concern.. He was informed 10 days before the article was published that it would be. He STILL didn't prepare. He stumbled, and stumbled, and stumbled.. Now, he thinks he can set the agenda with the press. That isn't realistic. That he THINKS he CAN, is more troublesome than ever.

    I don't want him doing this with the Iranians or the Chinese, or frankly ANYBODY. You shouldn't either...

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    Nov 7, 2011, 07:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello smoothy:

    I'm more concerned with how he handled his recent crisis, and how that effects his ability to run the free world..

    Instead of LEADING, he looked like a deer caught in the headlights. He KNEW the story was out there. Early on, HE could have released the information and put HIS spin on it... Why did he think it WOULDN'T come out? That too, causes me concern.. He's running for the leader of the free world. OF COURSE, it would come out. That he was surprised by the exposure, causes me even more concern.. He was informed 10 days before the article was published that it would be. He STILL didn't prepare. He stumbled, and stumbled, and stumbled.. Now, he thinks he can set the agenda with the press. That isn't realistic. That he THINKS he CAN, is more troublesome than ever.

    I don't want him doing this with the Iranians or the Chinese, or frankly ANYBODY. You shouldn't either...

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    I think it's a witch hunt... and nothing more. Nobody had the courage to come forward... they violated the confidentiality agreement just by talking about it, did they think it only applied to one party?

    Its certainly hasn't been handled any worse than it was under Clinton... where the women accussing him are rape were visciously attacked by the media... at least they had the courage to show their faces so everyone knew WHO was actually making the accusations...
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    Nov 7, 2011, 08:23 AM
    I'm not sold on Cain. His experience is and was much more extensive than the President's .But,I have great concerns about his answers to foreign policy questions ;and the fact that he has not done the ground work necessary to prove himself a serious candidate.

    I think with the coming IAEA report on Iran that foreign policy will take center stage real soon.

    Obama made up for the lack of experience by somehow managing to get his organization in place in the key caucus states. Cain has done almost no organizing I'm aware of .
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    Nov 7, 2011, 08:48 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    I don't believe even HE thought he'd be where he is. He just wanted to sell books, or increase his speaking fees. Maybe he thought he had a shot as a FOX News guy or even, God forbid, the Vice Presidency.

    You've got to be worried over there. Romney is GOING to be your candidate.. You can call him Bob Dole, or you can call him John McCain, but he's what you've got. IF you rally to his cause, he'll BEAT Obama... But, I don't think you will. Do you?

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    Nov 7, 2011, 08:52 AM
    Yes he most likely will be the candidate ;and I will have no choice but to support him .

    But make no mistake ; the best case the Republicans have are watered down with a Romney candidacy.

    Romney in the end can only make the case that he'd be a better manager of the nanny state than the President .

    His " Johnny come lately " positions on entitlements and tax reform don't fool me at all .
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    Nov 7, 2011, 09:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    His " Johnny come lately " positions on entitlements and tax reform don't fool me at all .
    Hello again, tom:

    Since they're interchangeable, I wonder if the right wing of your party would rather hold their nose and let Obama win, so they can run a REAL conservative in 2016, or put up with Romney for 8 years.

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    Nov 7, 2011, 10:02 AM
    I would not advise that... I already stated what was at stake. Judges don't have expiration dates unfortunately... nor does the bureaucratic infiltration.

    Also they are not interchangeable... Romney is a mini-me. Obama is a true believer in progressivism (force change ) .
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    Nov 7, 2011, 10:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Obama is a true believer in progressivism.
    Hello tom:

    From your lips to Gods ear.

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    Nov 8, 2011, 07:53 AM
    Cain certainly bumbled his harassment crisis, but the latest one that Allred paraded out? A witness says she was seen hugging Cain at a Tea Party event a month ago. I wonder how much she was paid to try and ruin the man's reputation and by who?
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    Nov 8, 2011, 08:09 AM
    Hello again, Steve:

    I HATE Gloria Allred. If I didn't think this was a hit job before, I do now. It's even possible that this new accuser is on the hook to Axelrod for $3 grand. This is getting stinkier and stinkier..

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    Nov 8, 2011, 08:44 AM
    I'm telling you, it's a racist plot.
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    Nov 8, 2011, 09:11 AM
    November 7, 2011 (MUNDELEIN, Ill. ) (WLS) -- Sharon Bialek, who lives in suburban Mundelein, said Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain reached under her skirt 14 years ago when she was asked him about a job.
    In this Intelligence Report: Who is Sharon Bialek? The Chicago-area woman has an extensive corporate and personal history in the area going back to the early 1990s.
    It was her hope for a new job that Bialek says brought her to Herman Cain that day in 1997. Bialek's resume and a trail of public records indicates that changing jobs has been a regular occurrence for the Chicagoan. She has worked for at least nine different employers over the past 17 years and appears to have struggled financially.
    The public record on Bialek begins in 1991 when she filed personal bankruptcy for the first time while living in Des Plaines .
    Between 1993 and 1996 Bialek worked for four different companies in promotion and marketing positions.
    In 1996, and part of 1997, Bialek was at the National Restaurant Association. After being let go from that job in mid-1997, she says that she went to Washington , D.C. to meet with Cain, president of the association, because she needed a job.
    In 1999, Bialek's son Nicholas was born and a paternity lawsuit was filed by the father, a media executive.
    In 2001 came Bialek's second personal bankruptcy, filed after sizable legal bills. That year she was hired by WGN radio where she worked until 2004 when she took a marketing job and then a job at WCKG radio.
    Along the way, according to her attorney, Bialek also held positions with Revlon and Easter Seals.
    Bialek currently lives in Mundelein with fiancé Mark Harwood
    Who is Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain accuser Sharon Bialek? Chicago area woman accuses Cain of reaching under her skirt | abc7chicago.com

    Imaging what James Carville would do with that narrative.

    When similar revelations come out for the time he was CEO of Godfathers Pizza or in the Fed Reserve then I'll believe this is a pattern of behavior. I have yet to hear any of his peers at any of those organizations say this type of behavior was in character . Did he just decide to become a deviant predator when he went to NRA ? Not likely .

    With Gloria Alred a law suit is right around the corner ;and I think that's the reason for this . She took out Meg Whitman last election cycle because her domestic help had a fake SS card .
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    Nov 8, 2011, 09:15 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    The important thing is NOT whether he's guilty or not, or whether this is a hatchet job or not. The important thing is that the episode DESTROYED his candidacy.

    But, like I said earlier, even HE didn't think it would get that far. It's best for everybody, except Obama.

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    Nov 8, 2011, 09:22 AM
    The important thing indeed is if he did it . It's very important that if he loses on this issue that it be the truth.
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    Nov 8, 2011, 11:26 AM
    I was listening on the radio this morning... this so-called victim has declaired bankruptcy, and has been through almost as many jobs since that so-called event as years that have passed.

    Her claims are highly suspect and I bet the result of someone in the Democrat party greasing her palms to get her to make such a fool out of herself. She has a financial motive to make false claims.

    Besides... if there was any truth to her claims... why did she never file a complaint much less a lawsuit?
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    Nov 8, 2011, 11:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The important thing indeed is if he did it . It's very important that if he loses on this issue that it be the truth.
    Hello tom:

    Well, that's not something we'll ever know.

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    Nov 8, 2011, 12:16 PM
    Yeah... there's no DNA or a stain on a dress ,
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    Nov 15, 2011, 03:58 AM
    I am now begging Cain to drop out. It has nothing to do with 9-9-9 or the bs sex scandal. He just doesn't have a clue about the issues related to foreign policy. His canned answer of "I'll rely on my experts " doesn't cut it. Almost certainly ,as President, he would have to make a call his experts don't agree with. He has to have the basic knowledge to make those calls . He doesn't have it and seems curiously uninterested in it.
    He needs to step out of the way and let the legitimate candidates step up .

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...g.html?hpid=z1

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