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    May 17, 2011, 09:16 AM
    O.K. Wondergirl, your probably right. But even if these people hear the truth, only God will turn them from there sins, by sending his Holy Spirit.

    NeedKarma, Yes he gives us his word found in the Holy Bible. Does this answer the question?
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    May 17, 2011, 09:18 AM
    Remember people I can't type! Be patient while I hunt and peck! LOL.
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    #183

    May 17, 2011, 09:18 AM
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    Out of all the religions in the World, Christianity can be proven to be the one true religion. Jesus, for example had hundreds of Prophesies fulfilled about himself. He is the ONLY founder out of all the different religions in the World to still be alive. Where are all of the other founders? In the grave. Christ was the only one that could defeat even death.

    I challenge anyone to disprove Christianity!
    REALLY? The ONLY one that can be PROVEN? I haven't seen "proof" YET!

    And he's still alive? I mean, I heard he rose from the grave, but zombies do that too. He DIED. He's not any more alive than Gilgamesh. Or Osiris. Or the Horned God that dies every year to renew the world. Or Adonis, Persephone, Orpheus, Mithras, Tammuz, Krishna, Odin, Ishtar, or Inanna.

    In fact, nearly all of your Christian myths are based on much older myths, and nearly all of your traditions are "borrowed" from other, older religions.

    You have "proved" nothing to me---other than that you're a fanatic who doesn't even understand your own religion and how it relates to other religions.
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    #184

    May 17, 2011, 09:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sawsall02 View Post
    O.K. Wondergirl, your probably right. But even if these people hear the truth, only God will turn them from there sins, by sending his Holy Spirit.
    See, there you go again -- bludgeoning. If only I could give you a short course in how to do mission work... but you'd probably bludgeon even me.

    Why can't you see that you are turning people off, rather than on, to God and Christianity? That is the worst kind of evangelizing and not what your God wants from you, to be such a poor witness. By turning people off to God and Christianity, you are doing the exact opposite of what you should be doing. Shame on you!
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    #185

    May 17, 2011, 09:18 AM
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    NeedKarma, Yes he gives us his word found in the Holy Bible. Does this answer the question?
    No it doesn't. You dance around posting oft-used standard preaching phrases but it never seems to directly answer a question. Oh well...
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    May 17, 2011, 09:30 AM
    Synnen, While many claim to be God's or Goddess's, they are only human, and they die. Christ, however was not only fully human, but fully God as well. Thus, a person of the Godhead. See Hebrews 1:3 (NIV).
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    May 17, 2011, 09:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sawsall02 View Post
    Out of all the religions in the World, Christianity can be proven to be the one true religion. Jesus, for example had hundreds of Prophesies fulfilled about himself. He is the ONLY founder out of all the different religions in the World to still be alive. Where are all of the other founders? In the grave. Christ was the only one that could defeat even death.

    I challenge anyone to disprove Christianity!
    You still don't get it, do you. I can no more "disprove" Christianity, than you can prove it. Just as I can't prove Judaism, Islam, Hindu, etc. But then you can't disprove them either. Religion is a matter of faith and belief, NOT fact, NOT truth. Until you understand that you are going to be nothing more than a fanatic.

    And where is Christ still alive? He may have risen from the dead, but not to be alive as we we know it. So there is another of your arguments that is just plain ridiculous.
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    May 17, 2011, 09:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sawsall02 View Post
    Synnen, While many claim to be God's or Goddess's, they are only human, and they die. Christ, however was not only fully human, but fully God as well. Thus, a person of the Godhead. See Hebrews 1:3 (NIV).
    Oh really?

    You're telling me that MY god, the Horned One, who is killed every year and reborn is dead, or just human?

    Or that the Hindu god Krishna is nothing but a human?

    Based on YOUR guidelines, Jesus was only human too.

    Do you even know ANYTHING about any other religion?
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    May 17, 2011, 03:17 PM
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    TUT, you are getting closer.
    Hi Sawsall,

    I'm not sure what you mean by 'getting closer' I thought I handled the thermodynamics debate rather poorly. I would do it differently if I had to do the whole thing again. But thanks anyway.

    Tut
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    May 17, 2011, 03:22 PM
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    By the way, Why did you delete my last answer J9? Can't or don't want to know the truth?
    I didn't delete your answer hypocrite, an Administrator did because you misused the comments feature. ;)
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    May 18, 2011, 01:39 AM
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    I didn't delete your answer hypocrite, an Administrator did because you misused the comments feature. ;)
    We are all Hypocrites before God!
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    May 18, 2011, 01:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sawsall02 View Post
    We are all Hypocrites before God!
    Speak for yourself!
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    May 18, 2011, 01:55 AM
    J9, Why did you come to this post? Have I heard anything from you about whether God exist's or not? No, seems like you came to pick a fight! So Leave!
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    May 18, 2011, 01:58 AM

    I don't believe god exists. No, you have no authority to tell anyone on this site to leave a thread.
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    #195

    May 18, 2011, 02:29 AM
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    No, seems like you came to pick a fight! So Leave!
    I believe you are unclear about how internet forums work. This isn't like your church - all views are accepted.
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    May 18, 2011, 03:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I believe you are unclear about how internet forums work. This isn't like your church - all views are accepted.
    To add, while we may not agree with someone's view, we try to respect their right to have that view. This is what you have not exhibited throughout this thread. If anyone should leave, it would be you. Not that I'm telling you to leave, as noted you have a right to post here as long as you follow our rules. Just as we have the right to express out views and show what a zealot and fanatic fool you are. In some cases I would admire someone who is sticking to their guns and continuing to defend their position. But in your case, your positions is mostly unsupportable. The rug has been pulled out of most of your arguments time and time again.
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    May 18, 2011, 03:33 AM
    Wondergirl, I am brandishing a spiritual sword, not a physical one.

    As Christians we should defend the faith. Although I ask myself at times, how would Christ handle this? I think after enough, he would turn them over to their sins.

    So with that, I will leave this thread and look at other questions.

    Good-bye all.
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    May 18, 2011, 03:43 AM
    Wondergirl, God Bless You!
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    May 18, 2011, 04:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sawsall02 View Post
    I think after enough, he would turn them over to their sins.
    He likely wouldn't. You might want to re-read this thread and see for yourself how many sins you have committed.
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    May 18, 2011, 04:34 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sawsall02 View Post
    Wondergirl, I am brandishing a spiritual sword, not a physical one.

    As Christians we should defend the faith. Although I ask myself at times, how would Christ handle this? I think after enough, he would turn them over to their sins.

    So with that, I will leave this thread and look at other questions.

    Good-bye all.
    But why brandish a sword at all? I don't think anyone has attacked Christianity. We have defended your right to believe in Christianity, but we have also defended our right to believe what we want.

    As to how Jesus Christ would have handled this, I think he was more concerned with the type of life people led, not how they worshiped.

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