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NeedKarma · May 17, 2011, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by sawsall02

But people don't want to be accountable, or have a God telling them what to do.

I consider myself accountable for my actions. No god tells me what to do. Does your god tell you all the actions you do and thoughts you have?

J_9 · May 17, 2011, 06:42 AM

Sawsall. Please stop using the stupid comments feature to reply.

Also, could you please be a little respectful of the beliefs of others? Not everyone believes as you do.

J_9 · May 17, 2011, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I consider myself accountable for my actions. No god tells me what to do. Does your god tell you all the actions you do and thoughts you have?

Apparently his god told him that he wants his wife's "kitty" shaved. :p

And STOP using the stupid comments feature to reply!!!!

NeedKarma · May 17, 2011, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by J_9

Apparently his god told him that he wants his wife's "kitty" shaved. :p

Totally against what the bible says. I see he and his wife are cafeteria christians.

sawsall02 · May 17, 2011, 08:05 AM

Let's talk about whatever You want J9! However your avoiding the issue! And your sinning before a Holy and Righteous God! TUT, you are getting closer.

sawsall02 · May 17, 2011, 08:07 AM

By the way, Why did you delete my last answer J9? Can't or don't want to know the truth?

NeedKarma · May 17, 2011, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by sawsall02

Let's talk about whatever You want J9! However your avoiding the issue! And your sinning before a Holy and Righteous God! TUT, you are getting closer.

How about you answer my question from post 161?

Curlyben · May 17, 2011, 08:11 AM

*Puts Broom Away*

Be careful with what you post as I'm watching ;)

southamerica · May 17, 2011, 08:11 AM

I thought we ALL sinned before a MERCIFUL God?

Synnen · May 17, 2011, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by sawsall02

Let's talk about whatever You want J9! However your avoiding the issue! And your sinning before a Holy and Righteous God! TUT, you are getting closer.

That only matters if you BELIEVE in that god.

I don't believe in your god. Or rather, I don't believe that your god is the ONLY god.

I'm NOT CHRISTIAN.

You haven't convinced me of anything in this thread---EXCEPT that I'm truly glad I got away from Christianity as soon as I graduated from high school. I'm glad that I don't have to deal with people as fanatic as you when I am worshipping my deity. I'm glad that I don't EXPECT others to worship as I do, and glad that there are truly wonderful people out there of ALL religions who don't EXPECT me to worship as they do.

Actually, all you have done in this entire thread is make me CELEBRATE that I am NOT a Christian, Sawsall. Of all of the religious people I have ever encountered, it is generally Christians that make me feel like they are rabid dogs that are just waiting to bite me to infect me with their fanatic disease.

Good job bringing people to the flock of Christianity (sarcasm). I can't speak for everyone of other religions following this thread, but I can state that for myself--you've pushed me even further away from your beliefs because you have no tolerance for the beliefs of anyone else.

sawsall02 · May 17, 2011, 08:28 AM

What was your question again, NeedKarma? I don't know how to find post #161.

NeedKarma · May 17, 2011, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by sawsall02

What was your question again, NeedKarma? I don't know how to find post #161.

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sawsall02 · May 17, 2011, 08:52 AM

SouthAmerica, God is Merciful yes, This is why he sent his son into the world to die for us. But remember, he is, and has to be JUST. Let me ask this, If There is NO God, how do we know what's JUST? Is it what Needkarma says is JUST? Or Synnen? No offense to people that think they can do right, but to what standard? God has instilled these values in us,in our hearts. What this comes down to is do we want to believe in a God that has perfect values and is JUST. Or, Make ourselves into our own God's. For this is Idolotry! We want to do thing's our own way and pretend there is no God. But he does exist, and EVERY knee will bow, to a Holy and Righteous God! We will be accountable for everything we say or do. But if we put are faith solely on Jesus, His Blood will cleanse us of all sin. And make us Righteous before God. I know what most of you will say to this. But I will prove that the Christian faith is the one and only true faith.

NeedKarma · May 17, 2011, 08:55 AM

So if it wasn't for your true faith you woudn't know not to kill people or rape children?

sawsall02 · May 17, 2011, 09:00 AM

:)

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I consider myself accountable for my actions. No god tells me what to do. Does your god tell you all the actions you do and thoughts you have?

Sorry NeedKarma, No! God gives us "free will". However we will be accountable for what we think, say, or do. Unbelievers at "The Great White Throne Judgement" , and believers at "Christ's Judgement Seat".

NeedKarma · May 17, 2011, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by sawsall02

Sorry NeedKarma, No! God gives us "free will".

But you said:

But people don't want to be accountable, or have a God telling them what to do.

So does god tell you what to do or doesn't he/she?

Wondergirl · May 17, 2011, 09:08 AM

Sawsall, the strength of a real Christian evangelist is to be willing to go to where others are in their beliefs and start from that point, rather than bludgeon them with his own version of truth. So far, all you are doing is bludgeoning.

And yes, I'm a Christian, so don't bother bludgeoning me.

sawsall02 · May 17, 2011, 09:09 AM

Out of all the religions in the World, Christianity can be proven to be the one true religion. Jesus, for example had hundreds of Prophesies fulfilled about himself. He is the ONLY founder out of all the different religions in the World to still be alive. Where are all of the other founders? In the grave. Christ was the only one that could defeat even death.

I challenge anyone to disprove Christianity!

NeedKarma · May 17, 2011, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by sawsall02

I challenge anyone to disprove Christianity!

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Synnen · May 17, 2011, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by sawsall02

SouthAmerica, God is Merciful yes, This is why he sent his son into the world to die for us. But remember, he is, and has to be JUST. Let me ask this, If There is NO God, how do we know what's JUST? Is it what Needkarma says is JUST? or Synnen? No offense to people that think they can do right, but to what standard? God has instilled these values in us,in our hearts. What this comes down to is do we want to believe in a God that has perfect values and is JUST. Or, Make ourselves into our own God's. For this is Idolotry! We want to do thing's our own way and pretend there is no God. But he does exist, and EVERY knee will bow, to a Holy and Righteous God! We will be accountable for everything we say or do. But if we put are faith solely on Jesus, His Blood will cleanse us of all sin. And make us Righteous before God. I know what most of you will say to this. But I will prove that the Christian faith is the one and only true faith.

Hate to point this out to you so publicly, but apparently you've never researched any other religion to know it:

ALL religions have nearly the same basic moral standards. Every last one of them says killing is bad, and that stealing is bad, and that you should honor your elders. Nearly all religions say that rape is bad (whether you phrase it as not taking something against someone's free will or you phrase it as not coveting what is not yours, they say the same thing). Nearly all religions that humanity follows have the SAME BASIC RULES for respecting others and living in peace.

Your god doesn't have a corner on the market for morality.

So sorry to break that to you so publicly, but you just do not understand that you are preaching intolerance, not love. You don't understand that while you may believe in only one god, not everyone believes in that same god--and the only way we can live in peace is to respect each others' religious teachings.

But it's really hard to respect you when you won't even ACKNOWLEDGE that you don't KNOW--you only BELIEVE.