[arcura]

ClassyT.
What you told Ash is right on...
It is good information.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[adam7gur]

I'm not sure what this "spirit of the world" is that you've been spared from. You live in the same world we all live in and are subject to the same conditions. And like all Christians I'm sure you know at some level this is all we've got, and hence you value it.

You are free to believe whatever you like; fine with me. But just keep it to yourselves and don't try to impose on the rest of us the moral beliefs of Middle Eastern sheepherders of 2000 years ago who thought slavery was okay or who thought that murdering people who are gay or who commit adultery was okay. These same ignorant people also thought the earth was flat, had no appreciation for microorganisms, and knew nothing of science or the natural world. And yet you are saying their moral teachings have relevance today, or are better than something we can come up with without their ignorance and superstition? The entire idea is absurd.

No my friend!
I do not live in the same world as yours, I do not belong to the world.What was given to me I will never keep to myself.
It is your way of thinking that brought the world to this point and your nation to be judged this year, this month. Your nation will be shaken in a way you have never expirienced.You will see NYC falling down and then people will start to LIVE again because you are dead and you do not know it. But to the dead thus says the Lord God, let the dry bones come alive!
When you see these things happeninig, remember that you must return to Him!
You are not alone in this.God's prophets and intercessors are fighting for you and your nation and when your nation will stand again you will remember all those God's servants that stood by you and you will fight for them for they will also come before judgement.
Ebenezer!

[cadillac59]

In God's economy..sin is sin is sin is sin. It doesn't matter how OLD something is or how modern and evolved we think we are now. God's word never changes and according to HIM there is nothing NEW under the sun. The Bible is as relevent today as it was 2000 years ago. In fact, you will find it is RIGHT ON! but that is just my two cents ....and i know i know..no one asked me. ha :D

The morality of today has evolved to a higher and better place than it was in bronze age Palestine. Why? Not because of a fairytale bible filled with superstitious drivel but because of the passage of time. The bible has absolutely no relevance today, none.

[cadillac59]

No my friend!
I do not live in the same world as yours, I do not belong to the world.What was given to me I will never keep to myself.
It is your way of thinking that brought the world to this point and your nation to be judged this year, this month. Your nation will be shaken in a way you have never expirienced.You will see NYC falling down and then people will start to LIVE again because you are dead and you do not know it. But to the dead thus says the Lord God, let the dry bones come alive!
When you see these things happeninig, remember that you must return to Him!
You are not alone in this.God's prophets and intercessors are fighting for you and your nation and when your nation will stand again you will remember all those God's servants that stood by you and you will fight for them for they will also come before judgement.
Ebenezer!

Yeah, right. More wacko fortune-telling nonsense. NY falling? That's a laugh.

[classyT]

The morality of today has evolved to a higher and better place than it was in bronze age Palestine. Why? Not because of a fairytale bible filled with superstitious drivel but because of the passage of time. The bible has absolutely no relevance today, none.

Well I think you are wrong. There are certain parts of the world that are less barbaric then they use to be. That is ALL. We haveni't evolved concerning sin or morality. Why? Because according to the Bible( you know , the book you refer to as a fairytale and superstitious drivel) mankind is a fallen creature with a sin nature called the flesh and it can't improve it no matter what you do. It is always against God. Mine, yours all of humanity. You can't improve it, you can't fix it and it certainly doesn't become more moral over time.. Less barbaric? Sure... sometimes. I don't know about you but the older I got in life, the more I sinned. I just kept getting better and better at sin. Either I am an exception to the rule or God's word IS relevant and what he has to say about me in my natural state ( my flesh, desires, wants) is true. Well I KNOW me... it is true. However God loves mankind and provided a remedy for it.

This is way off topic however. And one thing is for sure, you are totally entitled to your opinion. The God of the Bible gave you a free will whether you believe in HIM or not. He wouldn't shove Himself or His word on you and force you to believe it. Neither am I. But I just thought I'd give you my two cents on mankind being more moral with the passage of time. POPPYCOCK! :D

NOTE:
Incidentally back when I was in school, we didn't worry about classmates coming in and killing us... but when I send MY kids to school it IS a concern. The passage of time has only made us worse. That is just but one small example.

[NeedKarma]

NOTE:
Incidently back when I was in school, we didn't worry about classmates coming in and killing us......but when I send MY kids to school it IS a concern. The passage of time has only made us worse. That is just but one small example.

This is a US-only concern; in Canada I have never had these worries. You have a very violent society. Perhaps you should move?

[classyT]

NK..

OK... I'm coming to canada.. where do you live? I'm setting up housekeepin right next to YOU... LOL

hmmm? Well if I recall correctly my husband was in YOUR country a couple of years ago when shots broke out at a University I think it was? He was sitting on a bench close by and watched some of the mayhem in your NON violent society.

Naah NK... there is NO getting around it. Sin is EVERYWHERE. We aren't evolving to a better non violent world with the passage of time.

[NeedKarma]

Ok, just offering you my point of view. I NEVER worry about shootings at the schools my kids go to. I don't doubt that sin is everywhere, I was referring to once specific issue. Same thing with tornadoes, they happen in specific areas, you move away from there and that worry disappears.

[arcura]

ClassyT.
I do agree with you.
The Bible is as relevant today as it was thousands of years ago.
Fred

[ejay111]

My dear, i can understand how you feel! You are confused between an inner voice and your head, right? If you are a christian, then, it means jesus must be the lord of your life. This then suggests, you're not the one to decide who to marry... that's his job! I suggest you read john 10 prayerfully until you can tell his voice, then, you will know precisely what to do next.however ,before i leave this... marriage is not all about the so called wonderful qualities! That someone possesses all the good qualities does not make him/her the right person for you.it doesn't matter how beautiful a shoe is... it cannot be good for a cap! This leaves us to one question,how then do i know the right person? Since you didn't create yourself... you cannot determine who's right for you! You must find what your heart is saying to you. Rom 8... says as many as are led by the spirit of god, they are the sons of god. If it is not the spirit of god leading you , you won't have the benefits of sons... you will be in bondage all your life in that area of your life cos you took your own decision... doing it your own way and using religion as a cover -up is the reason you don't have peace! Peace is the only indicator that you are in his will... so always check for it after prayers again and again to be sure you are on the right track. God bless you and help you do the right thing.

[dwashbur]

Why are you yelling?

MY DEAR, I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW YOU FEEL! YOU ARE CONFUSED BETWEEN AN INNER VOICE AND YOUR HEAD, RIGHT? IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN, THEN, IT MEANS JESUS MUST BE THE LORD OF YOUR LIFE. THIS THEN SUGGESTS, YOU'RE NOT THE ONE TO DECIDE WHO TO MARRY...THAT'S HIS JOB! I SUGGEST YOU READ JOHN 10 PRAYERFULLY UNTIL YOU CAN TELL HIS VOICE, THEN, YOU WILL KNOW PRECISELY WHAT TO DO NEXT.HOWEVER ,BEFORE I LEAVE THIS...MARRIAGE IS NOT ALL ABOUT THE SO CALLED WONDERFUL QUALITIES! THAT SOMEONE POSSESSES ALL THE GOOD QUALITIES DOES NOT MAKE HIM/HER THE RIGHT PERSON FOR YOU.IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW BEAUTIFUL A SHOE IS...IT CANNOT BE GOOD FOR A CAP! THIS LEAVES US TO ONE QUESTION,HOW THEN DO I KNOW THE RIGHT PERSON? SINCE YOU DIDN'T CREATE YOURSELF...YOU CANNOT DETERMINE WHO'S RIGHT FOR YOU! YOU MUST FIND WHAT YOUR HEART IS SAYING TO YOU. ROM 8... SAYS AS MANY AS ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD, THEY ARE THE SONS OF GOD. IF IT IS NOT THE SPIRIT OF GOD LEADING YOU , YOU WONT HAVE THE BENEFITS OF SONS...YOU WILL BE IN BONDAGE ALL YOUR LIFE IN THAT AREA OF YOUR LIFE COS YOU TOOK YOUR OWN DECISION...DOING IT YOUR OWN WAY AND USING RELIGION AS A COVER -UP IS THE REASON YOU DON'T HAVE PEACE! PEACE IS THE ONLY INDICATOR THAT YOU ARE IN HIS WILL...SO ALWAYS CHECK FOR IT AFTER PRAYERS AGAIN AND AGAIN TO BE SURE YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. GOD BLESS YOU AND HELP YOU DO THE RIGHT THING.

[Ashriel]

Update!!

Me and my boyfriend are still together after 2 years, and still deeply in love with each other. We are living together and truly happy as can be. We are looking forward to getting married and spending the rest of our lives together. Our spiritual life is fairly good, we could work on it most definitely. We are both God loving people who are Christians. I wish we could talk more about God but it seems we always tend to get in an argument or somehow things become tense when we do (mostly relating to my disdain for Catholicism and his family being Catholic).

[jakester]

Update !!!

Me and my boyfriend are still together after 2 years, and still deeply in love with each other. We are living together and truly happy as can be. We are looking forward to getting married and spending the rest of our lives together. Our spiritual life is fairly good, we could work on it most definitely. We are both God loving people who are Christians. I wish we could talk more about God but it seems we always tend to get in an argument or somehow things become tense when we do (mostly relating to my disdain for Catholicism and his family being Catholic).

Ashriel - you know, the stuff of faith and being on the same page isn't always so clear cut. People are different. I suppose more than anything, whether your boyfriend lines up completely with your beliefs, etc. is whether he has humility, genuinely desires the goodness of God as a practice for his own life, and is interested in the truth.

I've met so many Christians from all walks of life over the years and I can say that Christian character: humility, love for God and the truth, are things that are true tell-tale signs of a genuine faith. We could argue over all of the other issues but if these things are there, it would be good enough to make a relationship work.

I wouldn't bash his background and speak badly of it because in that case, I think you are being a jerk and what are you trying to accomplish anyway? There are Catholics who are genuine believers and there are non-denominational followers who are not genuine believers... and vice versa. You want to accept him on his own merits, not those of his past affiliations. Besides, you are not really in a position to think you are further along down the path, maybe he has more Christian virtue than you think he does... but you may be narrowly defining what Christian virtue is your situation... so in that case, his virtue looks only a certain way. Just being honest with you, sister.

I guess what I am trying to drive at is, if he really doesn't fit the Christian mold you are looking for and you have a real issue with it (but you are trying to sort of ignore it) you might have to either address what your standards really are and adjust them or you may have to think more about what your long term prospects with him should be. You shouldn't violate your own conscience if you can't live with your situation the way it is. You have to pick your battles and decide what you need to stand for and what you need to just let go of... probably not easy for you but something necessary to do.