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lilyday33 · Jul 2, 2012, 07:49 PM

I'm pretty well versed on schizo- and schizoaffective because he's been sick for so long-i should say that he's also on meth and those people he hangs out with are scary at best,except for the girl who called to tell me my brother offered her boyfriend 2 thousand $ to kill me. I was shocked . If he had said it to me directly and in anger I would not really be worried, but I saw him yesterday-he came to use the shower and get clean clothes-and we did not even have a disagreement. He seemed "OK" for the most part. Funny thing is the cops pretty much said that's not enough to pick him up for but if they see him, they'll ask him about it. I'm like I got to move out of this crazy cowboy backward town.what do I do NOW? Like until he actually does it, I know he knows people who would because his own so called friend made him drive three hours away(at gunpoint) left him at an apartment with no phone locked up for three days until he could escape and call from a church. I heard the fear in his voice and he hadn't called for $ so we knew something( yea, they refused to take a mia report because of this mental status)then he refused to cooperate with the pd. Any thoughts?

Alty · Jul 2, 2012, 07:53 PM

Move, change your name, keep contacting the police when he makes threats, get a restraining order.

That's about all you can do if you believe that he's being sincere.

lilyday33 · Jul 2, 2012, 07:55 PM

Really think I need to change my name, and do you have any mental health knowledge-just for my own

J_9 · Jul 2, 2012, 07:57 PM

Have you tried to get in touch with any of his doctors?

sunshinexox · Jul 2, 2012, 07:59 PM

My brother acts this way towards me too. I moved out (I live in my own condo) and I never speak with him at all.

It breaks my heart - it's like he's dead because he literally is not in my life at all anymore, but he is very sick...

lilyday33 · Jul 2, 2012, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by J_9

Have you tried to get in touch with any of his doctors?

He refuses to go until he wants to take his meds-then he sees whoever is available. I could leave a letter for his file though, thanks

smoothy · Jul 3, 2012, 03:18 AM

Alty hit it on the head... anyone making those kinds of threats must be treated like they intend to go through with it. Family or not.

lilyday33... don't enable him or make excuses for him... just do it before he manages to do what he said.

joypulv · Jul 3, 2012, 03:41 AM

I wouldn't move away or change my name unless you believe all this, and I don't. Where's he going to get $2,000, and who's going to kill you for it anyway. Meth did that to him; that's why he was totally different when he came over to shower and change. I don't know why he's 'always wanted to kill you' but I don't even believe that they guy who took him 3 hours away at gunpoint is going to kill you. Maybe that was to sober him up (which it did, temporarily). If you don't like your town, move, but not because of this. And it's easy for us to say stay away from him, but I'll bet you are the one who went to get him 3 hours away? Just don't give him advice or lectures. None of that works. Don't enable him by going to get him either. If he needs your place to shower and change, fine, and a brief few words to let him know you are his brother and that deep down you always care, even if you can't and won't bail him out.

smoothy · Jul 3, 2012, 04:45 AM

Can't be too sure joypulv, there have been reported cases of murder for hire in my area where people killed someone else for far less than $50... lowlifes with even lower respect for lives of others or their own don't think like normal people do... toss in drugs and mental illness and then all bets are off. Just watch the news for stories of people that kill family members over stupid things even when mental illness or drugs are not involved..

We can only hope it's the drugs or mental illness behind the rants and he doesn't actually do it. But what if that's not the case... an abundance of caution can do no harm.

joypulv · Jul 3, 2012, 04:53 AM

True enough smoothy. But we can't be sure about anything except death (notice I left out taxes). I'd rather take the risk than run, personally.

Alty · Jul 3, 2012, 12:24 PM

I gave the advice because I've actually had experience with this.

A friend of mine has a brother with schizophrenia. When he was on his meds all was fine and dandy, but he often went off his meds, and when he did he made threats towards the whole family.

One day, when my friend was only 16, she came home from school, walked into the kitchen, and her brother was there. He charged at her and stabbed her 3 times with a kitchen knife.

She got lucky. She survived. But afterwards she wondered if she could have done something to prevent this. If she had listened, and taken his warnings seriously, maybe the entire incident wouldn't have happened. He either could have been hospitalized, or she could have been more proactive about protecting herself.

Her brother is in a mental hospital now, instead of jail. He will be there for the rest of his life.

She was only 16, she didn't have the options the OP does.

When someone makes threats, especially someone with a severe mental illness, you have two choices. You either protect yourself, and do everything you can to do so, or you wait for it to happen, and hope you live through it.

Another thing. My friends brother has no recollection of what happened that day. He actually loves his sister very much. But this disease made him do something he normally never would have done. Also, he was only dealing with the schizophrenia, he wasn't dealing with that and a drug addiction.

mmresd · Jul 3, 2012, 02:12 PM

Restraining order and lose yourself, change numbers, address, everything.