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saxony · Jul 30, 2010, 10:47 AM

Some police in willmer mn.had pushed my wife.were she had bleed. Threw here preagnancy for a week. By throwing here into the bumper of the car.they also called here a blank indian lover.why you married to a indian.they brought me to jail and kicked me were I was bruzed.nothing happened to the officers.the system failed not to charge them.only me.after giving me a breath teast and saying I could drive then a mile down the road.did this to my wife and i.minneapolice jail had beaten me three of them had pined me against the wall.and rotated beaten me up were. I had to go to the hospitail in a ambulance.them to never was charged.it was brought up in court.the court and prosicuter.seen me beaten.I told them.they did nothing.or charged the sheriff.jailer.cop.I

JudyKayTee · Jul 30, 2010, 11:14 AM

If your question is what should you do, you should contact a Civil Rights Attorney and have him/her investigate the matter(s) and then file a lawsuit for your damages and injuries.

I notice you lost custody of your daughter - are these two problems related? https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/family...ml#post2459126

saxony · Jul 30, 2010, 11:37 AM

What gives the right for police officials to beat.leaving marks.throwing wife against bumper of car in willmaer mn.if I did what they did I woukld be charged.they weren't charged.if I threw there wife and she bleed for a week or so. I would be in jail.now there saying statues ran out.maybe statues run out with me.if I did what they did to my wife.they.are cops that need to get a life.there is no law to what cops do.minneapolise jail beaten me up were I had to go in a ambulance.stcloud cops had fractured my wife's wrist.I was told to go back to the blank reservation.they even pulled a wad of hair from my head.kicked me in the knee.were is there jail time.I can see why people take the law into there own hands.maybe the statues will run out.court apointed atterneys are a` joke.they don't care.there with the courts.the courts have them.just for the record.and that's it they don't help.there with the system.there is no usa.anymore.agree.

excon · Jul 30, 2010, 11:41 AM

Hello s:

Yeah, cops suck. They can be sued, though. You just need evidence. If you've got it, I can help you. If not, yours is a story I've heard many times.

excon

JudyKayTee · Jul 30, 2010, 12:26 PM

Posted 3 times - apparently OP is taking a survey.

The rotten State of MN also has taken his kids away from him for no good reason other than "they" are looking for adoptable children.

bleusong52 · Jul 30, 2010, 04:41 PM

It would be nice to know the date this all happened. Checking the public records in Willmar...

Fr_Chuck · Jul 30, 2010, 06:07 PM

As a prior officer I have thrown dozens of people against my car and on the ground. Of course they were resisting and would not obey my commands to get on the ground, or to but something down.

And I have seen it used to run hookers or dealers out of certain parts of town ( not right but again the people were breaking the law and not agreeing to leave area.

So after having this done, was someone charged ?

saxony · Jul 30, 2010, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

As a prior officer I have thrown dozens of people against my car and on the ground. Of course they were resisting and would not obey my commands to get on the ground, or to but something down.

And I have seen it used to run hookers or dealers out of certain parts of town ( not right but again the people were breaking the law and not agreeing to leave area.

So after having this done, was someone charged ?

Yes officers do break the law by throwing people and leaving marks if I did that to a off duti police officer I would be in jail. Respect as you say you're a police officer .what you do to people by throwing them.I don't even due that to my dog.if someone threw you they go to jail so what gives you the power that's abuse.

Kitkat22 · Jul 30, 2010, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by saxony

yes officers do break the law by throwing people and leaving marks if i did that to a off duti police officer i would be in jail. respect as you say you're a police officer .what you do to people by throwing them.i dont even due that to my dog.if someone threw you they go to jail so what gives you the power thats abuse.

Do you realize how many police officers are on the other side of the coin?
The Police officers in our town City and county are great. They protect our neighborhood and our elderly.

I have seen police officers being cursed and belittled and they didn't do anything except put the offender in the car. If someone tried to accost them they have no alternative but to defend themselves. I take it yo did nothing to warrant their behavior?:rolleyes: I doubt that. We have a city police officer who lives in our subdivision. We also have a State Patrolman.Nicest guys you would ever want to meet.

I'm not an expert in this or anything. I will say this, Police officers risk their life everyday for very little pay and they do because most of them are in for the right reasons.

JudyKayTee · Jul 31, 2010, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by saxony

yes officers do break the law by throwing people and leaving marks if i did that to a off duti police officer i would be in jail. respect as you say youre a police officer .what you do to people by throwing them.i dont even due that to my dog.if someone threw you they go to jail so what gives you the power thats abuse.

Please answer the questions that were asked of you if you want information on what to do next other than following the advice already given - contact a Civil Rights Attorney. I find your bad luck to be remarkable - this incident PLUS the "State" has taken your children.

If you want to debate how/what/why Police Officers behave the way they do and what they are entitled to do or not to do, post this on a discussion board.

I would say that 99.9% of the people on this Board have not been abused, thrown to the ground, put in jail for no reason or otherwise been abused by the Police. You have apparently had this happen to you twice.

Why do you think that is?

asking · Jul 31, 2010, 06:53 AM

I think cops who beat people up to get them to hold still would do better to spend more time talking and less hitting. If someone's an immediate threat to themselves or someone else that's one thing, but beating someone up because they won't lie face down on the pavement seems barbaric to me. Often people in these situations are already upset for other reasons, they need to be calmed down, not beaten.

I met someone a while ago who had been beaten up by police. She was 20 years old and her face and body were covered with giant purple bruises. I had a chance to get to know her a little and I can't think of any reason besides impatience and wanting to subdue her. Mothers tell their children, "Use your words." Why shouldn't we hold cops to the same level of civility as we do a 5 year old?

excon · Jul 31, 2010, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by asking

Why shouldn't we hold cops to the same level of civility as we do a 5 year old?

Hello asking:

We SHOULD, of course... But, there's a segment of society who believes the people the cops beat up DESERVE to be beaten up. You've seen 'em. They wear blue uniforms, and eat doughnuts.

A PERFECT example is the video you've ALL seen, of the Seattle cop who kicks a victim whose already laying on the ground while saying something like "you got me, Homey??". I'm NOT pointing out THAT obviously miserable BAD cop, but the chick cop standing by with her arms folded, who walks over to the guy peaceably lying face down and STOMPS on him.

Yeah. MOST cops are probably OK. But, when they don't rid their ranks of the truly BAD cops, they're ALL going to be painted with that broad brush. Do I apologize for doing it? HELL NO!

excon

JudyKayTee · Jul 31, 2010, 09:31 AM

You cannot blame an entire profession for the actions of "some." I have posted that there are bad Cops; I've never seen you post that there are good Cops.

Do some people join the Force so they can wear a uniform and threaten and beat people up? Without a doubt.

Are "they" all - or the majority - like that? No. I don't think they are. I don't think you can blame all Police because a 15 year old girl gave two Cops some "lip." I also think unless and until I see the video coverage I don't entirely believe her side of it. Not saying it didn't happen. I don't necessarily believe either side is 100% right or wrong.

And if "we" are answering the OP did anyone read his litany of problems including two separate incidents (or is it three) or his children being "taken away" by CPS because CPS is looking for children who can be adopted - ?

Let's take a look at that and then answer his question.

The good Cop/bad Cop question is one for a discussion board. OP isn't willing to answer any questions, chosing instead to post the same "stuff" again and again so maybe it's time to move it, anyway.

I worked Federal enforcement. There were some bad Officers. I wasn't one of them, nor did I eat donuts or slap 15-year old kids around nor should I be tarred with the same brush.

Did I and do I have attitude? Yes, I do, and I'm the first one to say it.

It comes with the job.

excon · Jul 31, 2010, 09:35 AM

asking agrees: or the 15 year old girl in the holding cell who gives two cops some "lip."

Hello again, asking:

As if to hammer our point home, TWO - count 'em - TWO juries watched that tape and didn't convict this sorry excuse for a cop.

Like I said. A LARGE segment of society think that this girl DESERVED it.

Excon

excon · Jul 31, 2010, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

You cannot blame an entire profession for the actions of "some."

Hello again, Judy:

YES I can, as long as the so called GOOD cops you mention DON'T SPEAK UP - and they DON'T! They LOOK the other way. You KNOW that. I KNOW that. Asking KNOWS that, and most importantly, the OP KNOWS that. He doesn't articulate it well, but he KNOWS it.

excon

JudyKayTee · Jul 31, 2010, 10:38 AM

No, I don't know that. I don't know how you know what every Cop is thinking or says or does.

I think we are reading about 30% of the story her.

I hated working for the Government - the name of the game was "how many days before I can retire." No one much cared about anything else.

But I have dated Cops, loved Cops, hated Cops, lived with Cops, been given tickets by Cops, worked with Cops - and they are like anyone else. Some good, some bad, some indifferent.

I don't think you can blame all of them for the actions of some.

This kind of thinking would be offensive if you would fill in any other race/profession/religion in the place of "Cops."

< clunk >

(Oh, our engagement is off again.)

asking · Jul 31, 2010, 11:32 AM

My godfather was a cop and I have a nephew by marriage who is a cop. I loved my godfather and I have known this nephew since he was 3 and he's a good person. I don't think all cops are bad. I have had cops help me.

But I sure don't assume that anyone beaten up by a cop deserved it.

A friend of mine overheard two Berkeley cops one day. This was in the 70s, after the demonstrations in the 60s. The cops are on campus, watching college students walk by.
One of them said, "Things are awfully quiet these days."
The other said, "Yeah, I sure wouldn't mind knocking a few heads together again."

Cops are people like everyone one else and some of them are villains who should be behind bars for the things they've done. They should not be protected as they are.

Kitkat22 · Jul 31, 2010, 03:41 PM

Sure there are bad cops. They do give the good police officers a bad name. They are over worked, under paid and unappreciated until some people need them.

You can't clump one or two bad cops into the majority of good ones.

saxony · Aug 9, 2010, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello s:

Yeah, cops suck. They can be sued, though. You just need evidence. If you've got it, I can help you. If not, yours is a story I've heard many times.

excon

Yes I got plenty of evedence.what happen in minneapolise.jail I got pitures when I went to the hospitail.plus the inmates.that were there that day.seen them take me into the back and came out on a streatcher.what about the statue of limitations.for them doing this to me.in willmer mn .my wife has sean the docter that night.she bleed for a week threw here preagnancy.plus the chief of police gots pitures.he took of us and state ments.in stcloud.my wife got here wrist fratured.by police.she went to the hospitail.plus we have witnesses.

saxony · Aug 9, 2010, 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Please answer the questions that were asked of you if you want information on what to do next other than following the advice already given - contact a Civil Rights Attorney. I find your bad luck to be remarkable - this incident PLUS the "State" has taken your children.

If you want to debate how/what/why Police Officers behave the way they do and what they are entitled to do or not to do, post this on a discussion board.

I would say that 99.9% of the people on this Board have not been abused, thrown to the ground, put in jail for no reason or otherwise been abused by the Police. You have apparently had this happen to you twice.

Why do you think that is?

I do not no.this is true of what happen.to me and my wife.if I did what they did to me .the statue would never run out.so they got away.with assaults.on us.ill never forget all of them.what they did to me and my wife.