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earl237 · Aug 4, 2009, 10:11 AM

I've noticed so many successful, attractive and seemingly intelligent women dating men who are total losers. By loser I mean unemployed, criminal activities, drug use and looking trashy. I used to think that women outgrew the loser, bad boy phase once they were past college age but I see women well into their 30s and beyond with men who look like the kind of people you see working at carnivals. I hate to sound sexist but I rarely see successful men with women who are losers. It's kind of depressing for a decent single guy. Good women are hard to find and the few good ones are with total riffraff.

Torrid13 · Aug 4, 2009, 10:13 AM

Trust me, women say the same thing about men.

"What happened to all the nice guys?"

He'll find me when the time is right.
For now... it's PARTY TIME!

I wish · Aug 4, 2009, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Torrid13

He'll find me when the time is right.

Had to spread rep. I really like that line.

Don't let the girls that you know around you bring you down. Just keep meeting new people.

Torrid13 · Aug 4, 2009, 11:14 AM

Thank you I Wish!

I've learned that constantly wondering when a wonderful guy will come into my life keeps me from focusing on the present and living for today.

Today only comes once.

Justwantfair · Aug 4, 2009, 11:19 AM

I believe that those bad boys they dated in HS/College, ruined themselves esteem so they forget to every look for the good guys they deserve.

Torrid13 · Aug 4, 2009, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Justwantfair

I believe that those bad boys they dated in HS/College, ruined their self esteem so they forget to every look for the good guys they deserve.

Had to spread the rep, but I agree.

And I think that so many lower their standards for the sake of not feeling alone.

Alty · Aug 4, 2009, 11:29 AM

I always loved the bad boys, dated a lot of them in HS and after.

One day, shortly after a bad breakup, a friend invited me to a birthday party at a club. There was this guy there, he was flirty, nice, I wasn't looking for another relationship, just a bit of fun, so we flirted, got eachothers numbers and then proceeded to see each other ever day that week.

We were both 19 at the time. He was going to college, I was working full time, planning to go back to college, we started dating, but I never thought it would last, he was way too sweet and nice.

Well, it's been 19 years and we're still together, happily married for 14 years, two beautiful kids, a little house in the burbs, everything I never thought I'd have and more.

Most girls realize that the bad boys aren't keepers, just give them time. :)

Alty · Aug 4, 2009, 11:33 AM

I wish agrees: I'm liking the last line. But just another way of saying that nice guys finish last.

My nice guy finished first, he married me. :)

I wish · Aug 4, 2009, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Altenweg

My nice guy finished first, he married me. :)

Congratulations! I miss that part!

See... earl237, there is hope!

But I have to emphasize. DON'T let the girls around you bring you down. Every girl is different. You just haven't met the right one yet. Just don't limit yourself to the girls around you. Keep meeting new people.

Torrid13 · Aug 4, 2009, 11:45 AM

And you weren't looking for a relationship, either.

That's the best part.

Alty · Aug 4, 2009, 11:59 AM

Congratulations! Why didn't you say so earlier.

I did, in my post. :)

Married for 14 years, together half our lives, it's all good. :)

I wish · Aug 4, 2009, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Altenweg

I did, in my post. :)

Married for 14 years, together half our lives, it's all good. :)

My bad. Fixed.

Originally Posted by earl237

It's kind of depressing for a decent single guy. Good women are hard to find and the few good ones are with total riffraff.

Another piece of advice. I'm sure you've heard this before, but you just haven't met the right one yet. So keep on meeting new people.

Torrid13 · Aug 4, 2009, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by I wish

Another piece of advice. I'm sure you've heard this before, but you just haven't met the right one yet. So keep on meeting new people.

I had to spread the rep, but I totally agree. The right one will make all the difference in the world.

Alty · Aug 4, 2009, 12:22 PM

Reminds me of a popular saying,

You have to kiss a lot of toads before you find your prince.

Okay, that may not be the exact quote, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

You get the idea. ;)

Gemini54 · Aug 4, 2009, 05:06 PM

Good women are hard to find and the few good ones are with total riffraff.

Sorry, but I utterly disagree. I just think that you've been looking in all the wrong places. It's really easy to blame women for the fact that you haven't been able to find a 'good' one.

Your dating expectations are negative and you're determined to prove yourself right so naturally you're going to attract what you expect.

There are great women (and men) out there - healthy, happy individuals that are considerate, loving and caring.

If you're finding it hard to find them, look within yourself for the answers.

N0help4u · Aug 4, 2009, 05:15 PM

Part of the problem is that women have a basic instinct to 'mother' people and then they find these poor guys that they feel I can change him because he will love me enough to want to change. Then the guys often turn out to be wanting somebody to take care of them so they don't have any responsibilities.

Like girls that are on welfare the guy sees she has kids and welfare coming in so she is set and can afford him too---whats one more mouth to feed.

There was this article in the editorial of a local paper where the guy asked where are all the good women? He went on to say how he can't find any. I replied to the article I'll meet you in the old folks home after I raise all my kids that I had to Mr. Wrong.

I always had high hopes but never found Mr Right. Guess he is waiting in that nursing home for me.

CFZD · Aug 5, 2009, 05:36 AM

Well, OP. I don't date losers but where are the good quality men?

Good luck.