[dwashbur]

jpbuzzworthy disagrees : off topic

Off topic how? The question is about being proud to be a Christian, or possibly being proud of one's faith. I'm trying to get a better handle on a participant's point of view vis-à-vis the subject at hand. Hardly something that merits a reddie, especially since it's not a matter of fact, just your opinion.

[Alty]

Real or fictional?

Fictional.

[Kitkat22]

Everyone has a different view of what lies out there after death. I believe there is a man named Jesus who was born of a virgin and died on the cross. I believe every word of the Bible.

I also know and love some of the people who do not believe the way I do. I won't knock how they believe. Some of them have hearts as big as Texas. They would give a stranger a gift.

Pride was the topic and here's what I think... There are people with false pride who think a big house and lots of money or more education make them better than anyone else.

Their pride is there with the house and the bank account. There are Christians including me who don't portray a very good picture of how true Christians should be.

I have seen people who are church members who wouldn't even speak to a sinner... that is a hypocrite and that is their false pride saying, "I'm a Christian and I"m better than you"

I won't argue about religion but there are people on this forum who would give you the shirt off their back or offer to help you when they don't even know who you are.

I will end with this.. To all of us who have different beliefs and who are friends lets just agree to disagree. I know no one can change my mind about what I know is real in my heart and no one can change anyone else's mind about how they feel.

[kp2171]

Off topic how? The question is about being proud to be a Christian, or possibly being proud of one's faith. I'm trying to get a better handle on a participant's point of view vis-a-vis the subject at hand. Hardly something that merits a reddie, especially since it's not a matter of fact, just your opinion.

*sigh*

Doesn't this crap almost write itself?

Dude gets a reddie for p!ssing someone off on the religious boards by asking a question...

The bad news... its just as I expected.

The good news... I'm an f*ing prophet. [that is called "irony", from the greek, eiron]

This always, always, almost always ends up here.

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If you cannot post on the religious thread without tossing disagrees around left and right vindictively...

Well, I do not get you... at all...

I just spent nine months with three roman catholics, one lutheran, two presbyterians, and a self-proclaimed buddhistian... (think christian with a splash of buddha)... talking about our faith and our calling and our beliefs tied to social justice issues... and we never b!tched or whined about being "off topic"...

If your panties are that tight you might need to change them.

...

Back on topic... am I proud of my son? Yes. Whether I say it out loud or not... I rejoice in him... so... am I proud of my congregation? Sometimes. We fail. We're mortal. We miss the bigger calling much of the time...

But... I think we are a start... however imperfect...

Christ did two things over and over... He called his people to gather and then He sent them out...

Today... we do one ok-ish, and the other... poorly.

We kind of know how to gather.

We really don't have a clue about how to be sent out most of the time.

Am I proud of this? no.

But I still see worth in the imperfect community that gathers in His name... and I am proud to be an active member in my church... with all its really, big failings.

[Kitkat22]

*sigh*

doesn't this crap almost write itself?

dude gets a reddie for p!ssing someone off on the religious boards by asking a question...

the bad news... its just as i expected.

the good news... im an f*ing prophet. [that is called "irony", from the greek, eiron]

this always, always, almost always ends up here.

...

if you cannot post on the religious thread without tossing disagrees around left and right vindictively...

well, i do not get you... at all...

i just spent nine months with three roman catholics, one lutheran, two presbyterians, and a self-proclaimed buddhistian... (think christian with a splash of buddha)... talking about our faith and our calling and our beliefs tied to social justice issues... and we never b!tched or whined about being "off topic"...

if your panties are that tight you might need to change them.

...

back on topic... am i proud of my son? yes. whether i say it out loud or not... i rejoice in him... so... am i proud of my congregation? sometimes. we fail. we're mortal. we miss the bigger calling much of the time...

but... i think we are a start... however imperfect...

Christ did two things over and over... He called his people to gather and then He sent them out...

today... we do one ok-ish, and the other... poorly.

we kind of know how to gather.

we really dont have a clue about how to be sent out most of the time.

am i proud of this? no.

but i still see worth in the imperfect community that gathers in His name... and i am proud to be an active member in my church... with all its really, big failings.

We all rejoice in our children... what a blessing they are. Also being a good mom or dad is something to be thankful for. Having had good and wonderful parents who brought me up right and loved me even when I did things which disappointed them. That's love.. I believe God's love for us is unconditional.

As I stated before.. I won't argue about salvation or try to change someone's mind about the way they believe. If I ever do it will be because the lord will put the words in my heart to say to them. I found out a little while back... never say or do anything in anger... words can never be taken back and when I proclaim to be a Christian and I strike out in anger with words I only hurt the Lord and myself.

The person I've said them too isn't hurt at all, because the way I may act just reconfirms the way that person thinks about Christians. Dwash... that reddie was undeserved... Kp you're a really nice guy.

There are people who have different beliefs... not going to say anything about that except this... I love them and most of them have truly wonderful hearts. We can be different and still love each other.. . Kit

[belovedgift]

Philippians 2:13
King James Version (KJV)
13For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

Whatever good is in our life,God made it happen. Pride is a way that we lie to ourselves,no matter the degree. We live in a world today where even good christian folk are spewing over with pride. Pride of our country,our church,our family,our employment,our american way of life. This is destroying us spiritually. We need to repent.


James 4:6 (King James Version
6But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.