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    #21

    Jan 31, 2009, 06:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by arcura View Post
    sndbay,
    I don't doubt the Holy Spirit within me.
    He's been there since I was baptized.
    Fred
    And I don't doubt the Holy Spirit's existance here with us at all times because Jesus told us (John 14:16) And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
    Also: (John 14:26 -- John 15:26 -- John 16:7 )

    Those that recognize the spirit of truth have the Holy Spirit within them.... To be baptized is an act of righteousness, and obedience. And those righteous acts are known as our works that will follow us (Revelation 14:13) And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed [are] the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

    And To be baptized is to be bury with Christ ( Romans 6:4) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    Quote Originally Posted by arcura View Post
    sndbay,
    But I still believe what Jesus said about slandering the Holy Spirit.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
    Do you hear what Jesus said in?---> Luke 12:8 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God: But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God. Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
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    Jan 31, 2009, 07:33 PM
    sndbay,
    Yes, that is what I said about blaspheming the Holy Spirit according to the bible qoute I provided.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    Feb 1, 2009, 04:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by arcura View Post
    sndbay,
    Yes, that is what I said about blaspheming the Holy Spirit according to the bible qoute I provided.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
    Fred, I saw no scripture refer that was quoted by you (?)... I did however read your reply as NO in posting #18...

    You were saying that it was only unforgiveable when you say that Christ holds a demon..

    And I agree that would be sinfully wrong, but I also would include much more evidence that confirms any denying of the Holy Spirit's existence, is an unforgiveable sin. Such as individual that say, The Word is not anything other then men's writing, when indeed it is inspired by The Holy Spirit presence and intercession. The power and authority that was sent to Comfort us. Faith without sight knowing and believing in Him.. "The Holy Spirit"

    Do we believe the Word was made Flesh... YES evidently true....was the Holy Spirit with Christ? YES evidently true...

    The Key of David was given to teach... That Key is the love of Christ.. and it is the Holy Spirit that reveals that truth unto men. One can not turn their back on the Holy Spirit, or they do suffer in not having the truth. It's a Choice! Who to follow...
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    Feb 1, 2009, 09:14 PM
    sndbay.
    Please read the original post again.
    It quotes Matthew 3: 22-30.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
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    Feb 2, 2009, 11:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by arcura View Post
    sndbay.
    Please read the original post again.
    It quotes Matthew 3: 22-30.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred
    Matthew ? I am sure you mean Mark 3:22-30...

    And YES, this says in danger of being eternally damned... Showing it is strongly considered sinfully wrong to do.


    Mark 3:29-30 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

    Note again... I include much more evidence that confirms any denying of the Holy Spirit's existence, is an unforgiveable sin.

    Luke 12:8 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God: But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God. Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

    (AND)

    Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.


    (PLUS)



    Matthew 12:32
    And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come.
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    Feb 2, 2009, 03:14 PM
    sndbay,
    Yes I saw that.
    But did others?
    Thanks.
    Fred
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    Feb 2, 2009, 08:29 PM
    All sins our forgivein if we ask our lord and savior Jesus Christ and go to confesion Godbless
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    Feb 2, 2009, 08:56 PM
    Orthodox,
    Jesus said this...
    Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
    Peace and kindness,
    Fred

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