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    #21

    Jun 14, 2008, 05:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Altenweg
    Cred, this is a question that an author wrote in a book that bushg is reading.
    Alt : I know that. I can read too. But I can THINK and CONCLUDE also.
    Your point does not change the fact that the question makes no sense as it is. Specially as the subject has a moral/ethical basis...

    :rolleyes:
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    Jun 14, 2008, 05:48 PM
    Oh for goodness sake. Cred, if you want to argue with me then pick something
    Worthy of arguing about. Moral/ethical basis, are you sure you can read? It's a question
    It isn't a question that you are going to have to answer with a gun to your head, it's a
    Simple question with two very simple answers, how many times do I have to say that?

    Think, and conclude, that's your right, as is your opinion, but, as I've
    Already stated numerous times, there are only two choices in this instance, A or B, Bushg did not ask what you thought of the way the question was worded, or the choices that are given, she asked a simple question. If morally you cannot decide between the two answers that move on, that is also your right.

    I've said what I want to say, obviously I'm not going to get this through your thick skull, and I'm not going to argue about something like this. If you want to argue with me then
    Go to a thread about animal abuse and whether it's right, or abortion, or premarital sex, shoplifting, you name it, those are things that are worthy of discussion, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if we were on the opposite side of the fence on those
    Issues as well.

    Bushg, I think it was a very interesting question, and I took it the way it was meant to
    Be taken. I stand by my choice, and I realize that even though that is the choice that I
    Made, in the long run it will effect no one, as it is only a hypothetical question. Sorry
    That I am arguing on your thread, I will stop now as I no longer see the point of continuing this discussion.

    Alty out. :)
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    #23

    Jun 14, 2008, 05:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Altenweg
    Oh for goodness sake.
    Earth to Altenweg : Hello Altenweg!!

    Since when is the difference between making love to people, loving people, and killing people not an important moral and ethical point, that validates a precise discussion?

    Get real !

    :rolleyes:
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    #24

    Jun 14, 2008, 06:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Credendovidis
    "your right" , "aways" : what gibberish is that?

    :D
    Did you just come here to insult everyone in your path? Must you have the upper hand? This started as a simple question from a book, and you decided you must have a heated debate. You are being a bully. Yes, big word isn't it? BULLY! Does that turn your crank? Have a poke at me too, if you'd like.

    By the way, I agree, just in case you're interested. My answer is A!
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    #25

    Jun 14, 2008, 06:57 PM
    It is a *stupid fantasy* question... the choices bear no resemblance to any possible real life situation! It makes no sense in an argument/debate about anything. This is the stuff of McBooks and BSing.

    A thinking person can point that out. :)
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    #26

    Jun 14, 2008, 07:00 PM
    A,

    FYI, Crendo is a valued member of this site, too.

    Unless you want to claim that this is a private club?
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    #27

    Jun 14, 2008, 07:20 PM
    If someone just wants to come to someone's thread just to insult them, and speak of Gibberish, I believe that they are also speaking Jabberwocky, Gobbledygoo, Mumbo Jumbo, nonsense!
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    #28

    Jun 14, 2008, 07:31 PM
    What are you talking about?

    This is a religious *discussion* board... a person can point out that the question is total nonsense when used as some sort of example of *serious* religious thinking. :)
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    #29

    Jun 14, 2008, 07:34 PM
    Okay, this is getting out of hand. This is a simple question, a hypothetical question no less. For goodness sake people, should I reword it for you, will that help?

    Would you rather see;

    A. Two people having sexual intercourse on the street.
    or
    B. Two people killing each other on the street.

    Feel free to reword that if you must, this is ridiculous. Why did I start arguing with Cred, well, because he has to make a controversy out of every little thing, and quite frankly it's getting annoying. I too have the use of the english language at my disposal, and I too have a thinking brain, thank you very much.

    Really I am done, this is the stupidest argument I've ever gotten in to, about something that in the long run doesn't amount to anything. It's hypothetical, get over yourselves Cred and Choux.

    And yes, we are all valued members on this site, as such, I too have the right to voice my opinion, and when I see someone being attacked over a thread such as this, I feel the need to step in, because it isn't right. Sorry if I offended any of you, but I was offended as well, so I guess we're even.

    Really, I'm done, stick a fork in me. Maybe this thread should be closed.
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    #30

    Jun 14, 2008, 07:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bushg
    I read a book/books about a man that claimed he has conversations with God.
    So that is why I am putting this in the religious section
    . He asked his readers if they had to choose, which would they prefer to see or be most comfortable with seeing outside in the streets.
    A. people making love to each other
    or
    B. people killing each other.

    Which would you prefer?
    And this is why it was posted in the religious discussions board, any questions?

    Now, really, I am done. I will no longer respond on this thread, I don't want to end up
    Saying something I'll regret, so far I haven't, but I can feel it coming on.

    If you want a real argument, then choose something worthy of arguing about, this isn't it, even though I fell in to the trap and argued. To bad I can't go back and just ignore what was said, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, not going to happen.

    I'm out, argue amongst yourselves.
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    #31

    Jun 14, 2008, 07:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Choux
    What are you talking about?

    This is a religious *discussion* board.....a person can point out that the question is total nonsense when used as some sort of example of *serious* religious thinking. :)
    Get over it already. Bushg explained why she posted this thread under religion, and I didn't know that it was up to you to decide which questions were nonsense!

    Done!
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    #32

    Jun 14, 2008, 08:36 PM
    Originally Posted by bushg
    I read a book/books about a man that claimed he has conversations with God.
    So that is why I am putting this in the religious section
    . He asked his readers if they had to choose, which would they prefer to see or be most comfortable with seeing outside in the streets.
    A. people making love to each other
    or
    B. people killing each other.

    Which would you prefer?

    Of course my answer would be A.

    (Joe)

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    #33

    Jun 14, 2008, 09:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by bushg
    I read a book/books about a man that claimed he has conversations with God.
    So that is why I am putting this in the religious section. He asked his readers if they had to choose, which would they prefer to see or be most comfortable with seeing outside in the streets.
    A. people making love to each other
    or
    B. people killing each other.

    Which would you prefer?
    I am sure I will not be comfortable watching people make love outside in the streets:eek: ,nor would I be comfortable watching people kill one another:eek: .

    Those are hard to choose from as far as I can see.
    Natural ways of mankind seems that making love would be in privacy while killing for the sake of killing(like serial killers etc) too would be in some sort of privacy unless it was in a war or related to a war zone.
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    #34

    Jun 15, 2008, 02:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by firmbeliever
    I am sure I will not be comfortable watching people make love outside in the streets:eek: ,nor would I be comfortable watching people kill one another:eek: .

    Those are hard to choose from as far as I can see.
    Natural ways of mankind seems that making love would be in privacy while killing for the sake of killing(like serial killers etc) too would be in some sort of privacy unless it was in a war or related to a war zone.
    I agree Firmy, although I do agree with the premise of "make love, not war". I would not like to see either, but I have a choice so I pick A, and would give them a hundred bucks and tell them to get a room! ;)... and not billions of dollars to go kill people... some of which are totally innocent bystanders.

    Oops, I said I was "done" right? LOL! :D
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    #35

    Jun 15, 2008, 02:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by starbuck8
    Did you just come here to insult everyone in your path?
    Who says I insult everyone? What is true is that I made a point that got some people here rather upset. Totally unnecessary !

    Quote Originally Posted by starbuck8
    Must you have the upper hand? This started off as a simple question from a book, and you decided you must have a heated debate.
    Nonsense. All I posted was that the question (one who refers to moral and ethics) contains a major logical flaw, a flaw I specified sufficiently and clearly. It are those who do not like my comment who blew this all up into a heated debate.

    Quote Originally Posted by starbuck8
    You are being a bully. Yes, big word isn't it? BULLY! Does that turn your crank? Have a poke at me too, if you'd like.
    I do not poke at individuals here. I addressed the flaw in the question that started this discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by starbuck8
    By the way, I agree, just in case you're interested. My answer is A!
    My answer is also A, and that just indicates that the question is also meaningless when the question is read as it is. Anyone answering B is better be taken to a mental institution immediately.

    :rolleyes:
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    #36

    Jun 15, 2008, 03:29 AM
    [QUOTE=Credendovidis


    (QUOTE) I do not poke at individuals here. I addressed the flaw in the question that started this discussion.



    You stated your point, and that was fine, but then you had to carry on with your theory. You DID poke at individuals here! You belittled both Bushg, and Altenweg with your rude, and quite frankly, demeaning comments to both of them. I'm not going to waste my time in quoting you, as you did me, but maybe have a look back at the things that you wrote. Not appropriate at all.
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    #37

    Jun 15, 2008, 04:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by starbuck8
    You stated your point, and that was fine, but then you had to carry on with your theory. You DID poke at individuals here!
    You are entitled to your opinion. And I am entitled to disagree with that !

    :D
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    #38

    Jun 15, 2008, 04:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Credendovidis
    You are entitled to your opinion. And I am entitled to disagree with that !

    :D
    Buh'bye now dear! Have a nice day! :)
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    Jun 15, 2008, 05:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by starbuck8
    Buh'bye now dear! Have a nice day! :)
    Bye bye to you too... till your next post !

    :D
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    #40

    Jun 15, 2008, 05:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by firmbeliever
    Those are hard to choose from as far as I can see.
    Sure. But what did you choose? A or B ? Or do you reject both as irrelevant or nonsensical alternatives?

    :rolleyes:

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