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    Jun 1, 2008, 04:50 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by massplumber2008
    I can tell...woman after my own heart Patty!! Good luck!
    Ok I did it! Here's the pictures. The drawer closes all the way and will only have to cut a small slot in the other two drawers. I am so excited. Let me know if this is right or not. I had to cut a little more off the cabinet backing but that won't get see since there are drawers instead of doors.
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    By the way the guy at home depot tried to sell me a cheap p trap set up and I told him no - that I was doing it the way a master plumber told me to!!
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    Jun 1, 2008, 04:59 PM
    Hey Patty.. pretty good!

    Honestly... very impressed.. and I want anyone that reads this to note that she went to store, returned AND FIT THIS TOGETHER in... 1 hour 11 minutes (including posting time... and the fact that she did not know she was being timed by me).

    It really does look good... I guess I am torn. The plumber in me wants 45s in there if can accomplish the same end result.

    If still dry fit... AND YOU DARE... try dry fitting with the 45s (may need to cut the tailpiece from lav. Drain here... but dry fit/pretend fit to check this)... otherwise I say you did great!

    AND you were right.. and you knew it without us telling you... PVC all the way! Some... just some of those home supply guys can be sooo scary!

    Nice job!
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    Jun 1, 2008, 05:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by massplumber2008
    Hey Patty..pretty good!!

    Honestly...very impressed..and I want anyone that reads this to note that she went to store, returned AND FIT THIS TOGETHER in...1 hour 11 minutes (including posting time...and the fact that she did not know she was being timed by me).

    It really does look good....I guess I am torn. The plumber in me wants 45s in there if can accomplish the same end result.

    If still dry fit...AND YOU DARE....try dry fitting with the 45s (may need to cut the tailpiece from lav. drain here...but dry fit/pretend fit to check this)...otherwise I say you did great!!

    AND you were right..and you knew it without us telling you...PVC all the way!! Some...just some of those home supply guys can be sooo scary!!

    nice job!
    I took the whole piece I cut off to home depot and used the edge of the counter like a wall and couldn't get the 45's to work where it would meet up straight with the tailpiece. Everything is still dry fitted so it can be changed. Thanks for the compliments. I have had to do everything since my husband passed away over 20 years ago. I am well trained since he was a Marine and I had to do everything back then too!
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    Jun 1, 2008, 05:36 PM
    Patty... if that sink is draining well. You are done... and God bless you!

    You did really great!

    And ignore the stuff below... trying out a new "signature"!

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    Jun 1, 2008, 05:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by massplumber2008
    Patty...if that sink is draining well. You are done...and God bless you!!

    You did really great!

    And ignore the stuff below...trying out a new "signature"!!

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    You are great!! You helped me with my Swanstone retrofit plumbing and now this. I have a toilet and sink but now working shower yet. My son and his family are coming to visit so I will finish the cbu and tile after they leave. Thank you so much for your advice and help. Cant't trust those HD guys. If they were good they wouldn't be working at HD! LOL
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    Jun 1, 2008, 05:54 PM
    Keep us posted... I have a feeling you aren't done yet! ;)

    Mark
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    Jun 1, 2008, 06:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by massplumber2008
    Keep us posted...I have a feeling you aren't done yet!! ;)

    Mark
    I forgot to add that when I went to HD I stopped and got a hamburger,fries,and onion rings from Whataburger. That took about 10 minutes of my time!! :) I have a question posted about my kitchen sink. It's double with dishwasher and garbage disposal. When I put the stopper in the side w/o the disposal the disposal side drains very slow. When I replaced the sink and counter top I put the plumbing back the way it was. Some one is telling me now that I need to install a wye and trap both sinks. It's been like this for 5 years and just annoys me.
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    Jun 2, 2008, 03:59 AM
    Hey Patty:

    If the sink drained fine before changing out the sink and countertop then I need to ask... how long was it between time you took out the sink and countertop and the time you put them back in..?

    If was awhile... the gunk that lines the walls of old pipes may have dried up and then when installed the sink back the dried gunk got rewetted and has started to cause a slight blockage to the drain line..

    If was not awhile and was swapped sink/counter was swapped out quickly then it is one of 2 or 3 things:

    1) something got distrurbed in the drain line... may need to take apart plumbing and snake the drain line

    2) Disposal has something in it causing it to drain slow or disposal has actually always done this and you are just now noticing because you changed out the plumbing and well... noticed!

    For #2... unplug the disposal from under sink, then reach into disposal and see if anything is clogging the sides of inside... otherwise, sounds like the disposal has been using the other sink as a vent for years and again, you are now just kind of noticing this... maybe?

    I would try to snake the drain and see if that improved things... then connect it all up and try disposal again... see what happens.

    The disposal, the drain OR the vent is clogged or non-existent (check out roof for vent over sink area... let us know if present... may need to snake down this vent line to clear this issue).

    Fill both sinks to the rim, then just let them drain... let me know what happened..

    Let me know what you think... MARK

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    Jun 2, 2008, 09:26 AM
    Hey Patty,
    Although we always install our disposals with a separate trap. I was in error to advise running two traps on your set up. I don't think it's the trap or a clogged kitchen vent. There's no doubt that the disposal's venting through the other side of the sink. The proof of that is evident when you stopper off the sink and the disposal drains slow. I want you to try this for me. Stop off the two tubs and fill both with water. Now pull the disposal stopper. Drains slow doesn't it? Now, while the disposal's draining lift the black flapper located in the mouth of the drain to open up the mouth of the drain Does it begain to drain faster? If so you've located the source of your problem. What I think is happening here is that thye flap0p0er cuts off the air flow so the disposal vents through the continuous waste. Putting the stopper in the other tub stops the vent action abd the disposal begins to drain slow. Lifting on the flapper lets more air to enter the disposal allowing it to vent through the mouth of the disposal instead of the other tub. Just a few stray thoughts from, "The Other Guy"
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    #30

    Jun 2, 2008, 09:57 AM
    Hey Patty... sounds like Tom may be on to something here. Try what he suggested, let us know!
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    Jun 3, 2008, 07:38 PM
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    Hey Patty...sounds like Tom may be on to something here. Try what he suggested, let us know!!
    I did what Tom said and it did drain faster but After I adjusted the hose so it would be higher helped. Always wondered why that hose was so long!
    I got the plumbing done and the drawers cut for the vanity and only lost a little drawer space. I love it and the sink is draining fine. I guess an s trap before a p trap won't siphon water from the p trap. Thanks again for your help and concern.
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    #32

    Jun 4, 2008, 04:36 AM
    Great job on your part!

    Looks really good. If sink is still issue, then may need to snake the drain as suggested earlier.

    Did you fill sinks and drain sinks..?
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    Jun 4, 2008, 01:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by massplumber2008
    Great job on your part!!

    Looks really good. If sink is still issue, then may need to snake the drain as suggested earlier.

    Did you fill sinks and drain sinks...??
    Yes I did and the one with the garbage disposal came in a close second. I'm going to concentrate on finishing the bathroom for right now and I'll deal with the kitchen later.
    What is your opinion on the GE Smartwater undersink water filtration system that has a faucet above the sink? It's the one for about $77.00 at HD.Right now I have a faucet filter . Works great but I think they are ugly. My soap dispenser broke and I was thinking about using that hole for the water purifier.
    Thanks,
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    Jun 4, 2008, 05:27 PM
    Hi Patty:

    I think this is a really good, reasonably priced filter system. I have installed 3 of them and was happy with connectors and overall design. Be sure to install a dedicated shutoff to this unit... ;)

    Comes in single or dual stage filter systems (see pics... about time I got to post a pic. Or two... :p ).

    The dual cartridge, basically... has a sediment pre-filter. If you are on well water this may be a good choice for you... ;) .

    If city/town water... single stage filter should be good.

    Most important here will be to purchase at least 2 or 3 extra filter (or filter sets) so you won't have to be trying to search for these filters next year just to find out that they have UPGRADED!! And filter(s) not READILY available anymore.. it happens!

    Anyway... hope that helped some. Let me know if need more info... my customers reported good results with this filter.

    Mark

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    Jun 4, 2008, 05:50 PM
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    Hi Patty:

    I think this is a really good, reasonably priced filter system. I have installed 3 of them and was happy with connectors and overall design. Be sure to install a dedicated shutoff to this unit...;)

    Comes in single or dual stage filter systems (see pics....about time I got to post a pic. or two...:p ).

    The dual cartridge, basically...has a sediment pre-filter. If you are on well water this may be a good choice for you...;) .

    If city/town water...single stage filter should be good.

    Most important here will be to purchase at least 2 or 3 extra filter (or filter sets) so you won't have to be trying to search for these filters next year just to find out that they have UPGRADED!!! and filter(s) not READILY available anymore..it happens!!

    Anyway...hope that helped some. Let me know if need more info...my customers reported good results with this filter.

    Mark

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    Ok now I'm thinking of going for a whole house system. I'm just cinfused on where my water enters the house. I think it's where the hot water heater is in the garage. Just not sure on which system to purchase. They say the Whirlpool is good. I have city water. It is pretty hard. So many people have water softeners but I think I just want a whole house water filtration system. Don't know!
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    Jun 4, 2008, 05:59 PM
    Whole house filters are either single or double stage filter systems much like the systems we were discussing for under sink...

    If on city water, can always call city and ask for analysis of water in your city. I bet information is published yearly in fact (public information)... let me know..?

    Can call these guys and determine if a water softener will help things... or is unnecessary. They should also be able to advise best filter system for your water type.

    Let me know what you think... how it works out... MARK

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