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Geoffersonairplane · Jun 24, 2007, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by zooropa1985

True or false?

By the way, I like the way you don't beat around the bush with around a page and a half of writing and just get to it.

You certainly don't bang on like me.

Bubbler · Jun 24, 2007, 11:43 AM

I would go with false !

There is someone out there for everyone you just have to find the right one to settle down with. Some women like bad boys and some like good boys, just the same way as some dude's like blonds and some like brunettes!

Geoffersonairplane · Jun 24, 2007, 11:48 AM

I also wanted to add that I think that mainly it is the younger women who go for the bad boy jerks that are referred to earlier in this thread. I think at some point as they mature, things change. The bad boy type no longer seems as appealing or perhaps they may be appealing to the woman but the woman changes her focus on what she wants to what she needs. Not always but quite a lot.

Bubbler · Jun 24, 2007, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Geoffersonairplane

I also wanted to add that I think that mainly it is the younger women who go for the bad boy jerks that are referred to earlier in this thread. I think at some point as they mature, things change. The bad boy type no longer seems as appealing or perhaps they may be appealing to the woman but the woman changes her focus on what she wants to what she needs. Not always but quite a lot.

I would agree 100% :)

The younger girls seem to find the bad boys a kind of turn on, until it reaches a point in life when bills and rents need to be paid and start thinking of having kids and settling down etc, then from what I have seen in life the bad boys become the losers !

Jiser · Jun 24, 2007, 12:46 PM

To be honest who cares? If you can't be yourself in a relationship without mutual respect and both partners putting equal in, well then time to go! Fck bad boys and good guys. Be yourself if the women / bloke don't like it well then bye.

Of course totally contradicting myself. This doesn't allways work! Sometimes you just have to have that mystery and challenge.. as said in my previous posts. Up to you which stance you take.

Jiser · Jun 24, 2007, 12:50 PM

O yeah Chuff thanks for the comment about my collar bones. One was broken in Judo by a British team member + I have overdeveloped side delts rather than my upper pecs which I so badly need to work on :( But can't much because my rotator cuff.

clueless_19 · Jun 24, 2007, 01:51 PM

A HUGE resounding NO!! Well, at least not for me. From what I've seen though, I think it might be true for a fling, but when it comes down to it, if its for the long run... the nice guys win.

kristynn · Jun 24, 2007, 01:57 PM

For the long run, nice guys definitely win!! No doubt!

mckenzie134 · Jun 24, 2007, 05:10 PM

Nice guys definitely win...

In the end the bad guys well you know what tey end up with the bad women...

That's right a lot of people say the bad boys get all the girls and this can be true, but it depends what you mean by bad boys.

The best way to be and there is no doubt about this, it is best to be a nice guy who has his own life. All you need is a life of your own which is full and squeeze your girlfriend in whae you ca. Make her a part of your life like every other part of it and your nice guy attitude will win her over.

People say bad guys get all the girls because what normally happens is the bad guy is a bit of a creep and therefore doent want to see her all the time and would rather hang with mates and so fourth meaning the girl chases him more, but because he yells and rants a lot girls adventually get sick of the treatment and fine a gut who hads a life and treats them well...

jeremy4719 · Jun 24, 2007, 05:31 PM

True in the beginning (ages oh 16-25 give or take)... Then False after that because the bad boy streak is out of the ladies that was in them in the beginning... Nice guys do win in the end.

stonewilder · Jun 24, 2007, 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=zooropa1985]Ok just a wee example.

Boy makes a silly stupid but ultimately harmless mistake, tries to say sorry and gets dumped.

She didn't really want to be with him anyway. The mistake he made was just an excuse for her to dump him.

stonewilder · Jun 24, 2007, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by zooropa1985

Ok just a wee example.

Boy treats his girl like crap, maybe even beats her, but says he loves her and that it wont happen again, girl forgives and stays with him.

She has emotional problems and feels that she doesn't deserve to be treated good.

Jiser · Jun 25, 2007, 02:56 AM

If you can't be yourself in a relationship why bother being in that relationship?

The problem is with some people of either sex if they become to clingy, dependent, needy then the relationship is over in allot of cases. Some people are confused with this being a nice guy.

A nice guy is someone who has his own life away from his GF. Who is there for her when she needs him but doesn't let her life evolve around his. If it does this is unhealthy!

Be happy in yourself first. Work on your issues. If your so insecure, then sort it out!

cld1979 · Jun 25, 2007, 11:28 AM

I think I have fallen into the trap of being a 'nice guy' - and it hasn't done me any favours!

I tend not to realise until after a breakup that I have done it. It's not intentional, but I am a naturally caring person. This ultimately turns me into Mr Nice Guy, who texts all the time, and worries about her all the time. After the break up, I realise - but it's too late!

One day I will learn my lesson! One fine day! LOL

kristynn · Jun 25, 2007, 12:11 PM

Nice guys are really cool, but I don't know why they're so hard to find.

I mean, I wish I could be interested in a guy who turns out to be Mr Nice Guy, but this never happens. :rolleyes: Or maybe is it just me?

LOL I would never break up with a nice guy who's really nice, but as I said, they're hard to find... It's true though.

cld1979 · Jun 25, 2007, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by kristynn

Nice guys are really cool, but I don't know why they're so hard to find.

I mean, I wish I could be interested in a guy who turns out to be Mr Nice Guy, but this never happens. :rolleyes: Or maybe is it just me?

LOL I would never break up with a nice guy who's really nice, but as I said, they're hard to find... It's true though.

Shame you live so far away :)

kristynn · Jun 25, 2007, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by cld1979

Shame you live so far away :)

Haha
Thanks...

I'll come there if things don't get "better" up here :p

rebel-2 · Jul 1, 2007, 02:55 AM

I know eh, kind of sad really.

Geoffersonairplane · Jul 1, 2007, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by cld1979

I think I have fallen into the trap of being a 'nice guy' - and it hasn't done me any favours!

I tend not to realise until after a breakup that I have done it. It's not intentional, but I am a naturally caring person. This ultimately turns me into Mr Nice Guy, who texts all the time, and worries about her all the time. After the break up, I realise - but it's too late!

One day I will learn my lesson! One fine day! LOL

I used to think I was trapped by my own 'nice guy' personality but came to realise that it was a good thing. I have also learned the difference between good and nice and the importance of balance. Being yourself is the best thing to be as long as it is good. Why change something that is good? If people can't accept what is good, then what does that make them? At best, someone who is a poor judge of character or trapped by making poor choices.

Being a nice guy does not mean being a doormat either, although I admit that I had fallen victim to this in the past. Learning more about yourself and other people helps you grow and learn that you just won't accept that. You deserve better and being a nice guy won't hold you back.

Why not consider yourself a rare prize that is waiting to go to the right winner?

The truth is, this probably is the case (if you really do hold the characteristics you think you do). That comes with a sense of arrogance which must be balanced by realising also that no one is perfect including oneself and with this in mind, it is also important not to pre-judge others and to accept faults in others and appreciate them for who they are too.

E3317 · Jul 1, 2007, 06:15 AM

When I mentioned that more than half of what molds a man into what he is, is determined by what a woman wants people laughed at me. Because of the fact that women are so into the bad guy we have a increase number of "bad Guys". No knock on women, but if they simply refuse to accept these bad guys then the nice guys could possibly finish first, and women will no longer need to say, where are all the good men.