[Athos]

you saw the one video of multiple videos that was released . If you actually read the link provided you would understand that . The link provided explains what was released from both police body cams and over head street cams . It is a balanced presentation without drawing conclusions . What it does detail is the multiple times Nichols resisted arrest . Had he just submitted to the arrest ; then I would be on board with the charges against the officers .

Your link goes into brutal detail how the cops beat Nichols so badly he died. There was NO valid reason for what they did. The claim that he resisted arrest is totally false. You say you are "not on board with the charges against the officers". How do you explain the police chief immediately firing the cops and charging each one with murder? Is your right-wing pro police link more informed than the Police Chief? Get a grip.

[Wondergirl]

Nichols wasn't resisting arrest. He was trying to avoid blows during the vicious beating the cops gave him.

[jlisenbe]

He resisted arrest. It’s very clear.

[Wondergirl]

Nope. He was twisting around, trying to avoid the blows raining down on him.

Would you just lie there quietly as they pummeled you?

[jlisenbe]

None of that was true initially when he refused to do what they told him to do and then took off running.

[Wondergirl]

He had never been told "what to do". He ran because he wanted to find safety and hopefully get to his mom's house nearby.

Why was he stopped in the first place?

[jlisenbe]

Wreckless driving

[Wondergirl]

Wreckless driving

I'm trying not to laugh! That's the funniest joke you've ever made here.

[Athos]

Had he just submitted to the arrest ; then I would be on board with the charges against the officers .

Ergo, resisting arrest calls for the death penalty in the street by 5 cops brutally beating the resistor. That's the logic of your argument.

[tomder55]

The logic of my argument is don't resist arrest . Let the court system decide guilt or innocence. Resisting arrest invites the police to take more aggressive methods to detain .

Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Wreckless driving



I'm trying not to laugh! That's the funniest joke you've ever made here. And very subtle.

That was indeed why he was pulled over . Had he not resisted then that is where the police involvement would've ended .

You say you are "not on board with the charges against the officers

I never said that .

What I did say was What happened to Nichols was wrong and the police involved were rightly arrested . (number 9)

[Athos]

Resisting arrest invites the police to take more aggressive methods to detain .

To beat the resistor to death?

That was indeed why he was pulled over

There is no evidence of that. Only the police report submitted by 5 murderous cops covering their arse.

Had he not resisted then that is where the police involvement would've ended

Obviously, that is very wrong. He did NOT resist, yet he was beaten to death.

[tomder55]

That was indeed why he was pulled over


There is no evidence of that. Only the police report submitted by 5 murderous cops covering their arse.

So they just decided today they would pull over a motorist and beat him .

Had he not resisted then that is where the police involvement would've ended Obviously, that is very wrong. He did NOT resist, yet he was beaten to death.

The videos released say otherwise He resisted arrest even after tasers and pepper spray were used in an attempt to subdue him .

How do you explain the police chief immediately firing the cops and charging each one with murder?

Clearly they went too far. Yeah a Black Female police chief .Her predecessor was also Black . All the cops involved were Black .Yet we are told the cause is that it is White supremacy .
Goes with the standard narrative that any Black in the system is an Uncle Tom sell out . Black cops are seen as 21st century slave drivers/overseers.

[Athos]

So they just decided today they would pull over a motorist and beat him .

Their reason has not been determined. They were brutal inhuman thugs who may not have had a reason other than to strike fear in the neighborhood.

The videos released say otherwise He resisted arrest even after tasers and pepper spray were used in an attempt to subdue him .

What you are saying is Nichols resisting is actually his attempts to get away from the beating they were giving him. That has been established by those in authority who have reviewed the video.

Clearly they went too far.

Gee, ya think?

Yeah a Black Female police chief .Her predecessor was also Black . All the cops involved were Black .Yet we are told the cause is that it is White supremacy .

I have not heard that anywhere but here.

Goes with the standard narrative that any Black in the system is an Uncle Tom sell out

What is this supposed to mean? WHAT "goes with the standard narrative...".

Black cops are seen as 21st century slave drivers/overseers.

Ridiculous.

[Wondergirl]

Wreckess driving...That was indeed why he was pulled over . Had he not resisted then that is where the police involvement would've ended .

NOT wreckless driving, tomder. That means driving without wrecking. JL meant "reckless driving." They are total opposites.

He was "resisting" -- thrashing around -- in an attempt to avoid being beaten to a pulp by five cops. Watching the tape shows you that this wasn't their first rodeo. They looked as if they were enjoying themselves.

Memphis Police Chief Cerelyn Davis canceled the SCORPION police squad to which the accused officers belonged, saying, "This is not just a professional failing. This is a failing of basic humanity toward another individual."

[jlisenbe]

That means driving without wrecking. JL meant "reckless driving."

You are correct. My bad.

He was "resisting" -- thrashing around -- in an attempt to avoid being beaten to a pulp by five cops.

Sorry, but that's not true. He absolutely refused to do what they were telling him to do. There was no hitting until after he ran and then still refused to do what they were telling him to do. At least that's how it plainly appeared to me.

To be clear, I'm in no way defending the police. They way, way overreacted. But it's still true that if he had complied to begin with, we would never have heard of the incident. The fact that they had to drag him out of the car makes me wonder if he had been told to exit the car and had refused to do so. It sure looks that way.

[Wondergirl]

"Get out of the car!"
"What have I done???"
Cops open the driver's door and pull him to the pavement, begin beating him.
He thrashes, trying to avoid their blows. He eventually is able to get to his feet and heads toward his mother's house nearby.

[jlisenbe]

Cops open the driver's door and pull him to the pavement, begin beating him.

1. They did not begin hitting him at that point. They began trying to get him facedown so he could be cuffed. The video does not show them hitting him until after he ran. It does show him being tazed. 2. Why was his car surrounded by several police cars when they approached his car and dragged him out?

First section of Memphis bodycam release shows Tyre Nichols pulled out of car, tasered - YouTube

[Wondergirl]

Why pull him out of the car and cuff him?

[jlisenbe]

Police frequently cuff suspects until they can get the situation under control.

[Wondergirl]

There was, as yet, no "situation" that needed to be under control.