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    #121

    Mar 6, 2021, 08:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    They want to fine retailers $1,000 for using the words “boy” and girl”
    Good! I loved playing cowboy with my younger brother, playing with his cars and trucks, building a treehouse with his tools and, in the winter, a ski jump with him, building a ranch out of his Lincoln Logs and his farm set -- plus I wore his pants and t-shirts at home. Toys are toys. He played with me with my dolls and stuffed animals and tea set.
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    #122

    Mar 6, 2021, 09:18 PM
    sounds like a large number of leftists dills with gender issues live in California. They must have a serious identity crisis. This is what comes of recognising gays
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    #123

    Mar 7, 2021, 05:34 AM
    This is what comes of recognising gays
    Exactly correct. When two men having sex is considered to be normal, then you open the gates to all sorts of craziness.
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    #124

    Mar 7, 2021, 07:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    sounds like a large number of leftists dills with gender issues live in California. They must have a serious identity crisis. This is what comes of recognising gays
    Gays are people too! No more no less than you!

    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Exactly correct. When two men having sex is considered to be normal, then you open the gates to all sorts of craziness.
    None of your business.
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    #125

    Mar 7, 2021, 01:45 PM
    Tal the suburb leftist any thing goes keep them far away from me
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    #126

    Mar 7, 2021, 01:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Tal the suburb leftist any thing goes keep them far away from me
    Too late! They're all around us, have been all around us for millennia. You'd be shocked to find out who. In fact, I (cis-het) just finished Facebook messaging with one of my T-girl friends.
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    #127

    Mar 7, 2021, 01:54 PM
    I am not shocked I just wish to have no association with them
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    #128

    Mar 7, 2021, 01:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I am not shocked I just wish to have no association with them
    They're people just like you and me -- have jobs and take vacations and grocery shop and walk their dogs and wash their laundry. You're among them and don't have a clue. I didn't either. Now some are my very good friends. And others I was/am related to but didn't know until years later.
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    #129

    Mar 7, 2021, 03:32 PM
    yes I know there are a lot of limp wristed individuals about, fortunately there are not as many here as there are there and we would like to export them all

    https://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...d0b48a1bf0f646

    these sorts of displays in our streets I don't need

    https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw...e7ffb8f72cce73
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    #130

    Mar 7, 2021, 06:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Tal the suburb leftist any thing goes keep them far away from me
    Just mind your own business and you will be fine.
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    #131

    Mar 7, 2021, 07:12 PM
    It is one thing to treat gay people with kindness and respect. It is entirely different to teach young school children that "Adam and Steve" are perfectly normal.
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    #132

    Mar 7, 2021, 08:31 PM
    No human is perfectly normal, many are DIFFERENT.
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    #133

    Mar 7, 2021, 09:05 PM
    I beginning to understand you are different Tal, your views are very "liberal"
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    #134

    Mar 7, 2021, 09:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It is one thing to treat gay people with kindness and respect. It is entirely different to teach young school children that "Adam and Steve" are perfectly normal.
    Humans, animals, and plants are no longer binary as created. Lions, tigers, and bears used to eat grasses and fruit. Now what do they eat? Did God's perfect creation have destructive hurricanes, floods, and tornados?
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    #135

    Mar 7, 2021, 10:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Humans, animals, and plants are no longer binary as created. Lions, tigers, and bears used to eat grasses and fruit. Now what do they eat? Did God's perfect creation have destructive hurricanes, floods, and tornados?
    We know that this world is the result of the fall, doesn't mean we have to go with the degeneration that that engenders. God didn't create gays they are the result of the fall when woman decided she wanted to be equal with God
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    #136

    Mar 8, 2021, 01:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    We know that this world is the result of the fall
    God's plan included the fall.

    If it didn't, then God's plan was not perfect. If it did, then all the resulting changes are part of Gpd's perfect plan.
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    #137

    Mar 8, 2021, 01:48 AM
    Humans, animals, and plants are no longer binary as created. Lions, tigers, and bears used to eat grasses and fruit.
    Thought you were not a literalist.
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    #138

    Mar 8, 2021, 04:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    God's plan included the fall.

    If it didn't, then God's plan was not perfect. If it did, then all the resulting changes are part of God's perfect plan.
    So God is to blame for Eve's choice and Adam's weakness, what a cop out, it is all God's fault. That is the sort of thinking that licenses everything
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    #139

    Mar 8, 2021, 09:03 AM
    Originally Posted by Athos

    God's plan included the fall.

    If it didn't, then God's plan was not perfect. If it did, then all the resulting changes are part of God's perfect plan.
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    So God is to blame for Eve's choice and Adam's weakness, what a cop out, it is all God's fault. That is the sort of thinking that licenses everything

    Well, which is it. Is God's plan perfect, or not perfect? It has to be one or the other.
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    #140

    Mar 8, 2021, 09:46 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Thought you were not a literalist.
    I was playing a tune on your piano, a tune I hoped you'd recognize.

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