[cdad]

THe BLM isn't the police... they don't have police powers... and they certainly aren't a private army.

Yes they do, on federal lands.

Law Enforcement

[paraclete]

Law Enforcement

It seems they have a comprenhensive portfolio and authority, a sort of when are the police not the police sort of thing

[smoothy]

[paraclete]

yeh! funny about that never mind Putin can invade the Ukraine and Obama can take lessons

[smoothy]

He probibly has velcro straps on his shoes because he had trouble learning to tie them.

[paraclete]

Hey I have velco on my shoes, doesn't make me stupid, I can't reach the laces anymore besides it's quicker and I'm all for not wasting time. Wait, what am I doing here.

get with the future, man, laces are so ninetheenth century, or if you were Tom eighteenth century

[smoothy]

There is a big difference between not wanting to tie them and not knowing how to tie them. I think it's a safe bet that you know how to tie them.

[paraclete]

Yeh but I used to wear 'lastic sided

[smoothy]

Yeh but I used to wear 'lastic sided

We call those loafers... I like them because I can quickly and easily slip them on and off when I come into and leave my house.

[tomder55]

Meanwhile the emperor plans on seizing more lands .
Obama to designate national monument in New Mexico - Washington Times

[NeedKarma]

Seems like the right thing to do:
Our next national monument: New Mexico's Organ Mountains-Desert Peaks | Wilderness.org

[smoothy]

I think we should annex Canada and make the entire thing a National Park.

[NeedKarma]

Ok. It's beautiful here.

[smoothy]

Ok. It's beautiful here.

Some of what I've actually seen in the eastern part of the country is. I'd agree. I really liked Prince Edward Island for example. Nova Scotia was nice but a bit rocky for my tates. Can't say Newfoundland really managed to stick in my memory like those two places did.

[talaniman]

I can see you guys being mad about the president acting when everybody else drags their feet, and this isn't the first time conservatives have used the excuse of border security to do NOTHING. Actually it adds more government agents to that part of the border to assist local sheriffs, with manpower and resources that they don't have as well as coordinated management where their was hardly NONE!

Closing roads to sheriffs was always BOGUS, an excuse NOT to have to coordinate with federal law enforcement. We have seen this before and always knew the Bundy style free use of public lands was not restricted to just Nevada. This has always been about the authority of duly organized ranchers/cattlemen against the free rangers who obey no rules but their own.

New Mexico Cattle Growers' Association

Of course its spun as a land grab by conservatives, but the missing FACT is the support of a larger organized and lawful group of ranchers in EVERY state. I pointed out before how Bundy wasn't a member and didn't want to pay dues or follow their regulations either, from the Association in Nevada and had no support from them.

But buy a uninspected cow from Bundy and his ilk. You can't because most slaughterhouses won't accept them.

Range war: County resolves to solve wild horse problem if BLM prioritizes Bundy cattle | St George News

“The budget calls for an increase of $2.8 million for the Wild Horse and Burro program that would allow the BLM to continue multi-year studies focused on the development of more effective and longer-lasting fertility control agents and techniques,” The BLM said in a statement. “It would also further the BLM's implementation of the National Academy of Sciences recommendations made in 2013.”
On Thursday, the Washington County Commission held an emergency meeting concerning the gathering of Bundy's cattle. It passed a resolution against the transport and sale of the cattle across state lines into Utah, citing the cattle may not have been properly immunized and could contaminate other cattle within the state.
Grazing rights on public land in Clark County. Nev., have either been reduced or closed in the last 20 years in order to secure and preserve habitat for the desert tortoise. However, Bundy chose to ignore BLM regulations and has declared the agency unconstitutional, citing a states rights versus federal overreach argument. Now, after 20 years of back-and-forth between Bundy and the BLM, it and other federal agencies are moving in to physically remove his cattle.

Reducing this widespread complex issue to a spectacular headline is pure CRAP!!

[tomder55]

gotta keep the drug runners and human trafficer routes pristine. No doubt the ranchers will be driven off the land in defense of the Organ Mountain Colorado chipmunk and the prickley pear. What the emperor really is doing is ensuring that the Fed government has the say about who gets to exploit the mineral right.
The Feds have had the rights to the eastern flank of this pristine land for ages ... It's where Fort Bliss White Sands Missile Range is . They have been slamming missiles into those mountains for decades.




On the western flank (not shown in your photos ) is grass lands that ranchers have used since before there was a USA .


I'd say that private interests have been better stewards of the land.

[NeedKarma]

I'd say that private interests have been better stewards of the land.

I'd say you'd be wrong.

It's where Fort Bliss White Sands Missile Range is

All the more reason to protect the area.

[tomder55]

Of course its spun as a land grab by conservatives, but the missing FACT is the support of a larger organized and lawful group of ranchers in EVERY state. I pointed out before how Bundy wasn't a member and didn't want to pay dues or follow their regulations either, from the Association in Nevada and had no support from them.

But buy a uninspected cow from Bundy and his ilk. You can't because most slaughterhouses won't accept them.

All you are doing here is supporting the rent seeking system of trade associations charging fees for admission into exclusive clubs. Your Rancher Associations are nothing more than attempts to restrict their trade to members(the already haves) . You see that in many professions that restrict access in this country . These associations of course have a vested interest in the government providing the muscle for the enforcement of their trade rules.

[talaniman]

Yes they have a vested interest in defending themselves and the country from rustlers and thieves.

[tomder55]

like the BLM ?