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Sep 25, 2013, 04:18 AM
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Sep 25, 2013, 04:53 AM
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And the violence in America continues... (see my previous post)
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Sep 25, 2013, 04:55 AM
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That's just more lefties behaving badly. And don't hide you bias... how about including all violence that doesn't include a firearm... There is no lack of those to focus on... in fact there is far more of it... and even in Canada.
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Sep 25, 2013, 05:10 AM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
Thats just more lefties behaving badly. And don't hide you bias...how about including all violence that doesn't include a firearm....There is no lack of those to focus on....in fact there is far more of it....and even in Canada.
smoothy violence is everywhere but it is facilitated by access to guns and more and more are made and distributed every day, but it doesn't just affect you these guns are illegally exported to other countries and fuel the insanity there too. This is corporate american and it is ugly and the true enemy of us all
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Sep 25, 2013, 05:12 AM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
smoothy violence is everywhere but it is facilitated by access to guns and more and more are made and distributed every day, but it doesn't just affect you these guns are illegally exported to other countries and fuel the insanity there too. this is corporate american and it is ugly and the true enemy of us all
Guns have nothing to do with violence... PEOPLE have everything to do with violence. No gun has ever killed a person... people kill people.
Cavemen were beating other cavemen over the head with clubs to take their stuff and women...
Nothing much has changed since then.
The true enemy is the people that want to disarm the public... because they have no grasp of history... and what happens time and time again to disarmed populations.as demonstrated by the historical record.
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Sep 25, 2013, 05:49 AM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
The true enemy is the people that want to disarm the public.....because they have no grasp of history...and what happens time and time again to disarmed populations.as demonstrated by the historical record.
Call me the enemy then because I don't own a gun. When I did I know I was irresponsible, but what I do know is that if guns are not generally available less people get killed by guns, so much for the argument that guns don't kill people. Guns are designed for one purpose only and that is to kill. It is true that historically we used many devices to kill but it wasn't until the gun that we perfected it.
Human nature is raw, animal, and because of this it should not have access to killing devices paticularly those that can kill at a distance and multiple times. These things belong only on a battlefield, not in our streets
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:04 AM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
Call me the enemy then because I don't own a gun. When I did I know I was irresponsible, but what I do know is that if guns are not generally available less people get killed by guns, so much for the argument that guns don't kill people. Guns are designed for one purpose only and that is to kill. It is true that historically we used many devices to kill but it wasn't until the gun that we perfected it.
Human nature is raw, animal, and because of this it should not have access to killing devices paticularly those that can kill at a distance and multiple times. these things belong only on a battlefield, not in our streets
So... do you want to outlaw... cutlery, any hard object that can be picked up... have peoples arms shortened to where they are long enough to pick their nose and reach their mouths to eat? And their legs shortened by half so they aren't much use to kick or stomp?
Outlaw any substance that can be hazardous in case soemone got the idea to feed it to someone...
Or just outlaw breeding completely that way within one generation there will no longer be people committing any violence against other people.
And also... there is this... I don't live in a part of the world where anti-gun zeolots get to decide what I can and can't have... and I'm proud of that... we have a constitutional RIGHT to own them... and that right is no less valid than any other enumerated right.
And where I live... we have the right to kill anyone who decides they are going to invade your personal space to do harm on you ot take your stuff... and where we have the right to terminate the life funtions of anyone who decides to invade your house to do this any time of the day or night.
What's irresponsible is allowing certain criminal elements to breed,. not for law abiding citizens to own guns. I have more than a few... and nobody is going to take them... nobody... and there are at a minimum of 80 million others who feeel exactly the same way.
And what is most irresponsible of all... is the belief people should not be held responible for their own actions.
And its irresponsible to ignore that most violence that occurs doesn't even involve guns.
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:25 AM
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Oh stop using the 2nd amendment as an excuse not to pay for more cops and have more comprehensive background checks so a loony can't get a gun and wipeout the lives of as many people as he can has bullets.
Contract all that work to contractors with fat contracts and do the job on the cheap. 300 million guns in this country, and we still get slaughtered like sheep. But I guess a gun is what brings swagger to your wager and think you are somebody.
Well that does nobody else no good, and you blow smoke between massacres.
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:29 AM
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When seconds mattered to Jim Giffords the cops were minutes away.
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:32 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Oh stop using the 2nd amendment as an excuse not to pay for more cops and have more comprehensive background checks so a loony can't get a gun and wipeout the lives of as many people as he can has bullets.
Go ahead and contract all that work to contractors with fat contracts and do the job on the cheap. 300 million guns in this country, and we still get slaughtered like sheep. But I guess a gun is what brings swagger to your wager and think you are somebody.
Well that does nobody else no good, and you blow smoke between massacres.
The real problem is the lefties spouting off their hatred and instigating things... their right to free speech should be taken away for the common good as well because all it does is cause trouble.. in fact lets start there.
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:32 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
As to your previous post, stop pretending violence is a uniquely American phenomenon. As long as there are people there will be violence. Deal with your own issues.
Around 200 people gathered at the Saskatoon Farmers Market to protest violence in Saskatoon.
The 'Take Back The Night' march is an annual event to protest sexual and physical assault in the community.
What started as one march in 1975 has now become a global movement to protest assaults against women.
"I think marching in the city streets really brings visibility to our cause," said Coordinator of the University of Saskatchewan Students' Union Women's Centre Heather Kevill. "It brings visibility to the people and the activism, and I think it's really important."
According to Statistics Canada, around half of all Canadian women have experienced some form of sexual or physical violence.
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:35 AM
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More cops. Put 'em everywhere. Some people don't want to lug a gun around. If he wanted on, why didn't he have one?
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:36 AM
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Sure.. there are lots of unemployed high school bullies looking for a chance to rekindle that part of their lives...
We could use Washington, DC as an example... there have only been 90+ active duty police officers thrown in jail for criminal activity in recent years.
But then... take away the guns... put thousands more "police" on the streets... sounds like 1930's Nazi Germany to me.
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:49 AM
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stop pretending violence is a uniquely American phenomenon
I don't but but you don't see Canadians posting ad nauseum about any violence in their country on this board. You guys seem to revel in it; as in more guns would fix the problem.
Yes there are some parents that go to their kids' job interviews, that's one of the worst problems we face. :D
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:49 AM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
Sure..there are lots of unemployed high school bullies looking for a chance to rekindle that part of their lives.....
We could use Washington, DC as an example....there have only been 90+ active duty police officers thrown in jail for criminal activity in recent years.
But then......take away the guns...put thousands more "police" on the streets....sounds like 1930's Nazi Germany to me.
Everything sounds like 1930's Germany to you. They have pills for paranoia. Or a straight jacket if the pills don't work, or you have an aversion to stuff being shoved down your throat for your own good.
And the safety of the public.
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:53 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Everything sounds like 1930's Germany to you. They have pills for paranoia. Or a straight jacket if the pills don't work, or you have an aversion to stuff being shoved down your throat for your own good.
And the safety of the public.
The real danger comes from people that talk like you just have...
Because it shows a complete disregard for the BIll of rights and constitution.
Oh... and incidentally... its your people that emptied out the assylums under the pretext they had the right to rampage freely.
Or do you actually think the mentally ill SHOULD be rounded up and tossed back in.. You can't have it both ways.
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:54 AM
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:55 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I don't but but you don't see Canadians posting ad nauseum about any violence in their country on this board. You guys seem to revel in it; as in more guns would fix the problem.
You join right in and know it's the gun control advocates that make it political, I'm not posting ad nauseum about it.
Yes there are some parents that go to their kids' job interviews, that's one of the worst problems we face. :D
If half of your women experience sexual or other violence you have MUCH bigger problems than parents on job interviews. I mean THAT'S a war on women.
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:55 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Who is "your" people?
Give it a little thought... you speak english well enough. It will come to you.
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Sep 25, 2013, 06:58 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I don't but but you don't see Canadians posting ad nauseum about any violence in their country on this board. You guys seem to revel in it; as in more guns would fix the problem.
Yes there are some parents that go to their kids' job interviews, that's one of the worst problems we face. :D
Wingers here are afraid and can't think of any other way to solve a problem than with a gun. They already have 300 million, and need MORE. So they have to find stories to justify their position. I mean how loony is it to sell a gun to a blind man, instead of a seeing eye dog?
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