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Sep 12, 2013, 02:27 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Speaking of unions, in spite of some serious lobbying from the White House the AFL-CIO went on record with a vote on a resolution critical of Obamacare.
Seems we aren't the only ones not happy with Zero care. The emperor is not having a good week... serves him right. The rest of us who warned you about him? Not so much. Thanks for foistng this nightmare on us.
Big unions, big government and big business will work things out to the satisfaction of 'the big three'. As for the rest of us... Well, I guess its tough luck.
There seems to be an inability to understand that it is the political system that actively promotes this type of solution. It doesn't matter who the emperor is now, or who he will be in the future.
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Sep 12, 2013, 05:13 AM
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I understand, but this guy has managed to make America a laughingstock. But then he does believe we need to be knocked down a few notches, in that he's succeeded.
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Sep 12, 2013, 06:33 AM
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Hello again,
Trader Joe's to DROP health coverage for it's part time workers...
But, that AIN'T a bad thing.. It's what's SUPPOSED to happen. A small business SAVES money, and his part time workers STILL get affordable health care.
Depending on income you may earn outside of Trader Joe's, -- i.e. another job -- we believe that with the $500 from Trader Joe's and the tax credits available under the ACA, many of you should be able to obtain health care coverage at very little if any net cost to you.
Whaddya know about that?
Excon
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Sep 12, 2013, 06:45 AM
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Only a lib would think pushing people out of their employer sponsored insurance and dependent on government largesse is a success. Oh, and did you catch that phrasing? "Many of you should be able to obtain health care coverage at very little if any net cost to you."
And if they can't?
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Uber Member
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Sep 12, 2013, 06:54 AM
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Hello again, Steve: Only a lib would want everybody's cost for health insurance to be the same.
But, it's even worse than that.. I don't think ANY employer should be burdened with his employees health care costs. That is, if you want OUR industry to be competitive with the WORLD'S industry, and the WORLD'S industry DOESN'T have that burden.
Excon
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Uber Member
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Sep 12, 2013, 06:57 AM
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Libs believe in dragging everyone DOWN to their level... rather thant raising people up to the level of others.
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Sep 12, 2013, 07:00 AM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
Libs believe in dragging everyone DOWN to their level...rather thant raising people up to the level of others.
What are Repubs doing to raise people up?
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Uber Member
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Sep 12, 2013, 07:03 AM
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Hello again, smoothy:
I don't know.. The post above yours that I, a VERY liberal person, wrote, IS PRO business ALL THE WAY...
But, you're right about one thing, though... I'm a VERY liberal person AND a VERY successful businessman. I believe in dragging people UP to my level.
Bwa, ha ha ha.
excon
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Sep 12, 2013, 07:04 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:Only a lib would want everybody's cost for health insurance to be the same.
But, it's even worse than that.. I don't think ANY employer should be burdened with his employees health care costs. That is, if you want OUR industry to be competitive with the WORLD'S industry, and the WORLD'S industry DOESN'T have that burden.
excon
Only a lib would believe that offering benefits in a competitive marketplace is a bad thing. Some of really liked it that way, ask the unions.
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Uber Member
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Sep 12, 2013, 07:06 AM
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I don't believe the government has any business dispensing heath care out to anyone... because they have demonstrated how their corruption is so deep their best friends will get everything they want.. cost being no object... while those that they dislike will be denied basic services...
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Sep 12, 2013, 07:09 AM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
I don't believe the government has any business dispensing heath care out to anyone
They aren't. The insurance companies are, as always.
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Uber Member
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Sep 12, 2013, 07:13 AM
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Hello again, smoothy:
they have demonstrated how their corruption is so deep their best friends will get everything they want.. cost being no object... while those that they dislike will be denied basic services...
I don't know. I'm on Medicare. They don't know my politics. They just pay the bills. And, they pay EVERYBODY'S bills regardless of their political persuasion..
How is it, that you DON'T know that?
Excon
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Ultra Member
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Sep 12, 2013, 07:17 AM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
They aren't. The insurance companies are, as always.
I get mine from my doctor.
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Uber Member
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Sep 12, 2013, 07:24 AM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
They aren't. The insurance companies are, as always.
Not under Obamacare they won't be.
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Sep 12, 2013, 07:25 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, smoothy:
I dunno. I'm on Medicare. They don't know my politics. They just pay the bills. And, they pay EVERYBODY'S bills regardless of their political persuasion..
How is it, that you DON'T know that?
excon
Obamacare isn't Medicare... and nothing Obama has ever done has been impartial or unbiased in any aspect.
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Uber Member
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Sep 12, 2013, 07:27 AM
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Hello again, smoothy:
Not under Obamacare they won't be.
Apparently, you think Obamacare is single payer. It's NOT. You will get your health insurance from health insurance companies just like you always have.
How is it, that you don't know that?
Look.. Over the past few days, you've exhibited absolutely NO grasp of what's going on around you... Step away from FOX News, Drudge, and I'd turn off that Jones dude too.
Excon
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Uber Member
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Sep 12, 2013, 07:34 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, smoothy:
Apparently, you think Obamacare is single payer. It's NOT. You will get your health insurance from health insurance companies just like you always have.
How is it, that you don't know that?
Look.. Over the past few days, you've exhibited absolutely NO grasp of what's going on around you... Step away from FOX News, Drudge, and I'd turn off that Jones dude too.
excon
I think its you that thinks the government isn't completely involved in Obamacare...
In fact its already proven it will cost at least three times as much as current medical insurance does... and coverage will be fare less...
Just so a few million illegals will get free healthcare.
Only Jesus CHrist was able to feed the masses with a single fish and one loaf of bread.
Somehow the Democrats think Obama can do even more than that.
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Sep 12, 2013, 08:01 AM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
Not under Obamacare they won't be.
My son, who is a part-time employee, pays for his own health care, has BC-BS. He is already getting mailings from insurance companies asking him to check into their plans and switch.
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Uber Member
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Sep 12, 2013, 10:18 AM
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Yeah.. a real bargain with half the coverage at twice the price.
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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Sep 12, 2013, 10:22 AM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
Yeah..a real bargain with half the coverage at twice the price.
Actually, no.
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