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    #41

    Apr 26, 2013, 05:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Inspiration and motivation aren't exactly the same things, Tut. But your colors are showing again. Instead of taking issue with those making a connection that doesn't exist and downplaying one that does, you're nitpicking on word selection.

    I agree that inspiration and motivation are very similar. I would also agree that it would be nitpicking if I were trying to separate an individuals motivation from his inspiration. This is not what I am doing in this case.

    Again, you put me in an invidious situation. In the final analysis I would say that no one has any dots to join up. I am no different to anyone else who posts here. I post my comments and people are free to agree, disagree or ignore my comments. Just like everyone else.
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    #42

    Apr 26, 2013, 05:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You seem to be nit picking your own narrative and dismissing those that don't fit your narrative. Hard to be objective in evaluating facts that way.
    The facts are clear, I don't have to nitpick. The SPLC's hate list played a role in the FRC shooting, the map played no role in any violence whatsoever. Only one scenario is true, Tal, why so much denial? Is your hatred for conservatives like Palin so deep you can't see the plain truth in front of you or are you in that deep of denial you can't acknowledge the actual hatred and irresponsible behavior on your side? Both?
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    Apr 26, 2013, 05:45 AM
    I hate no one, but cannot understand why you put so much credibility into the rantings of a criminally insane fool and I don't care what Palin said or did to be honest its still no excuse to the actions of another criminally insane fool.

    What part of not caring what triggers and motivates a loony to murder and mayhem is it you don't understand? There are no excuses for that kind of behavior. Stop trying to connect the dots to justify your own narrative which is hardly objectionable, and quite prejudiced.

    There is enough lunacy to scare everybody, no matter your politics or religion in my view.
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    #44

    Apr 26, 2013, 06:27 AM
    I can't understand why you can't acknowledge the facts. The whole point of this thread is just as with the Tucson shooting, the left cannot see their crusade against hate is itself an exercise in hate.
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    #45

    Apr 29, 2013, 07:09 AM
    And yet another exercise in hate in the crusade against hate. I've mentioned Femen before, see if you can spot the haters.

    NSFW PHOTOS: Naked feminist protesters drench Catholic archbishop as he prays quietly
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    Apr 29, 2013, 08:02 AM
    Hello again, Steve:
    naked feminist protesters drench catholic archbishop as he prays quietly
    I don't know WHY you're having trouble with DISTINCTIONS this morning... They REALLY do make a difference...

    You see, if these women really HATED the priest, they would have doused him with something OTHER than water... What THEY did was make a POLITICAL point... What they DID was civil disobedience. Dissent is one of the HIGHEST forms of patriotism..

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    Apr 29, 2013, 08:10 AM
    Looks like assault to me .

    Actually it fits the legal definition of 'battery'
    Battery generally requires that:
    1.an offensive touching or contact is made upon the victim, instigated by the actor; and
    2.the actor intends or knows that his action will cause the offensive touching.
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    #48

    Apr 29, 2013, 08:55 AM
    Hello again, tom:

    looks like assault to me .
    Yeah, water..

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    Apr 29, 2013, 09:07 AM
    As long as they're on the left you guys can justify all sorts of bad behavior. But no this was not "civil disobedience," they would have to be defying civil authority for that to be the case, I don't know why you can't discern simple things today. No sir, that was assault on a private individual, another exercise in hatred in the alleged crusade against hate.
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    #50

    Apr 30, 2013, 04:43 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    As long as they're on the left you guys can justify all sorts of bad behavior. But no this was not "civil disobedience," they would have to be defying civil authority for that to be the case, I dunno why you can't discern simple things today. No sir, that was assault on a private individual, another exercise in hatred in the alleged crusade against hate.
    This is an overseas example. Is anyone, or any group involved in this bad incident claiming they are involved in a crusade against hate?
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    #51

    Apr 30, 2013, 05:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    This is an overseas example. Is anyone, or any group involved in this bad incident claiming they are involved in a crusade against hate?
    Does being overseas matter? These are radical feminists and if you'd read the article their attack on this priest was to "stop homophobia," so I think that qualifies as a crusade against hate as defined by the left.
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    #52

    Apr 30, 2013, 05:44 AM
    as defined by the left
    What is "the left"?
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    #53

    Apr 30, 2013, 06:03 AM
    Really? SMH...
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    #54

    Apr 30, 2013, 06:20 AM
    No really, how do you define the expression "the left"? It would be useful since you use it constantly.
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    Apr 30, 2013, 06:26 AM
    Hello again,

    I don't know... I've been asking my fellow libs if they HATE somebody, would they throw water on them, or would they try to HURT them...

    Guess what? They said if they wanted to make a POLITICAL point, they'd throw water.. If they wanted to make a PERSONAL point, they'd throw knives..

    I don't know WHY you don't understand HATE... HATE isn't political. You don't throw water when you HATE somebody... You throw them in OVENS...

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    #56

    Apr 30, 2013, 06:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    I dunno... I've been asking my fellow libs if they HATE somebody, would they throw water on them, or would they try to HURT them...

    Guess what? They said if they wanted to make a POLITICAL point, they'd throw water.. If they wanted to make a PERSONAL point, they'd throw knives..

    I dunno WHY you don't understand HATE... HATE isn't political. You don't throw water when you HATE somebody... You throw them in OVENS...

    excon
    I don't go to my friends to reach a consensus on what something means in their world, it's already defined.

    Hate: to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry.

    Hate doesn't have to involve anything physical, but their actions were a manifestation of pure hate. You aren't going to win this one no matter how you equivocate. You know the old saying, you can solve a problem if you refuse to admit there is one.
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    Apr 30, 2013, 06:33 AM
    Ah I get it, hate is what I read in the Current Events board, like those who exhibit extreme hostility towards all things/persons liberal.
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    #58

    Apr 30, 2013, 06:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Ah I get it, hate is what I read in the Current Events board, like those who exhibit extreme hostility towards all things/persons liberal.
    Obviously you don't, we're just having a discussion and at the end of the day it's nothing personal, until they can't compete with me in fantasy baseball.
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    #59

    Apr 30, 2013, 06:40 AM
    Nah, it's not a discussion, it's an echo chamber of hate. Can't you see it?
    Does your mindset ever change due to the discussion? Of course it doesn't; that's how it is with bigotry.
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    Apr 30, 2013, 06:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Nah, it's not a discussion, it's an echo chamber of hate. Can't you see it?
    Does your mindset ever change due to the discussion? Of course it doesn't; that's how it is with bigotry.
    Thanks for the demo, I don't know why you feel the need to make my point for me but I appreciate it.

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