[excon]

Hello again,

all good questions, Tom, no doubt they have been answered behind closed doors.

No, they're NOT good questions... Nobody has YET to tell me WHAT they're covering up... Without THAT, you got NOTHING!

Excon

[paraclete]

No they got nothing?

[excon]

Hello again,

Let me ask my right wing friends a question. How many contractors were killed in Iraq? How many in Afghanistan? Why don't you know? Don't you care? Where are the posts about them? Why are THEIR deaths any less important than the 4 in Benghazi? Could it be because FOX didn't TELL you to be pissed??

Frankly, I believe FOX and the Limp one are RUNNING the Republican party.

excon

[paraclete]

So it's all a Murdoch plot, which came first Elliot Carver in the Bond Movie, or Rupert Murdoch? Art imitating life for a change

[tomder55]

Hello again,No, they're NOT good questions... Nobody has YET to tell me WHAT they're covering up... Without THAT, you got NOTHING!

excon

I already told you what they are covering up.

Here's a refresher..
How US Ambassador Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked To Jihadist Rebels In Syria - Business Insider

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

Couple things.

First off, there's NO direct connection, and the link is tenuous at best.. But even if it's true, what has the attack got to do with it? And why would saying the attack WASN'T an attack, cover up what was already revealed by your link?

I STILL don't see WHAT was covered up, or (if I buy your reasoning) WHY they'd even bother to cover it up.

You DID want us to intervene in Iran, didn't you? How DO you support a rebel cause? You give them WEAPONS, right? How do you KNOW the people you're supporting are on your side? Does it even matter if the guy they're fighting is YOUR enemy? Shouldn't WE intervene in Syria? Isn't the rebel movement in Syria as important as the rebels in Iran were?

I STILL see no coverup or a NEED for a coverup. I just see Murdock/O'Reilly directing the show, and shills like McCain and Graham mouthing the words.

You haven't answered MY questions above. Why don't you care about the contractors that were killed in Afghanistan?

excon

[tomder55]

Consider Iran/ Contra as the closest parallel . A mission being financed by other nations so the WH doesn't have to be accountable to Congress.Now back then I had no problem with the concept of aiding the Contras . But that operation was illegal ;and many in the WH paid the legal costs for that action;including John Poindexter, the national security adviser under Reagan
Now I'm, surprised however that you would be comfortable with an op that funnels heavy weapons into the hands of radical political Islamists .

I am well aware of contractors being killed . It is NOT news that they were openly hired for the job they do in Afghanistan . There were many reports of contractors getting killed in Iraq and Afghanistan .No one thought in necessary to conceal that info from the American public .To compare this to a secret op that is probably illegal is a stretch .

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

Like I said, the link is TENUOUS at best. I'll wait till there's PROOF.

In any case, you're looking for scandal where, at MOST, there's incompetence and some bureaucratic bungling... And, to be focusing on it a month later seems to be missing the larger picture.

excon

[tomder55]

Focusing on it a month later because the WH lied and played prevent defense until the election. The links are incomplete for 2 reasons . The first is that the WH is stonewalling . The Congressional investigations are not unified under a single committee so it is much tougher to connect the dots . The 2nd reason is one that you won't buy ,but nonetheless true . The American media is concentrating on the attack,whether it was terrorism or a reaction to a Youtube video ,and the sexcapades of Petraeus . I called all those side-shows to the real issue and they are . Remember ;Nixon was able to stonewall and coverup Watergate until way past the 1972 election . You can bide your time if you choose . I say there is a cancer in the White House .
By the way ;there are reporters in the foreign press who were telling this story in September .

[paraclete]

So WH coverups and adventures in destabilisation are nothing new, when has the US not conveniently armed a dissident regime and every time it bites them on the bum. Libya is no different, the weapons will go to Al Qaeda and its affiliates, how much of it has already gone to Gaza

[speechlesstx]

Ex, if there was nothing to cover up why did they lie to us? Why did Obama stand in front of the UN and lie? After all those years of "Bush lied" I'd think you would also want to know why this administration lied to us. Obama has been lying to us from the beginning, and you somehow think the American public is best served by dishonesty, coverups and incompetence. Dude!

[excon]

Hello again,

Thomas E. Ricks, a Pulitzer Prize winning former reporter for the Wall Street Journal and Washington Post, was cut off of FOX News yesterday. "I think the emphasis on Benghazi has been extremely political, partly because Fox is operating as the wing of the Republican Party."

Wall Street Journal, huh? Pulitzer Prize, huh? Yeah, he's a lefty all right. This is like the election... You guys THINK you're winning on this issue, but the reality is MUCH different.

excon

[tomder55]

Yeah I've read Ricks ;have even incorporated some of his points in my critique of the leadership from the Generals rank . Everything has a political component to it . Basically Ricks used the same deflection about the Iraqi contractors that you tried to use. As I already pointed out ,the difference is that it was no secret that the military and State used private contractors. When the adm comes forward and honestly tells us what those contractors were doing then perhaps all the "hype" will die down. The reason it is still an issue is not because of FOX ;that's absurd. The reason it is still an issue is because of the way the adm is handling a cover-up of the event and the situation and policies that led to it.

[talaniman]

Without facts and proof this whole thing amounts to more right wing chest thumping, and sabre rattling, and political posturing. We all know that facts won't come out for a long time on this and many other matters so why muddy the waters with speculation and assumptions that distracts us all from a bigger picture or can't you guys read a map?

[tomder55]

Yeah that's what they said during Watergate... what was it?. oh yeah... a 'two-bit burglary' .

[talaniman]

When the FACTS came out, people went to jail so it's a bit early on Benghazi to sentence people. All the FACTS aren't out and so far you are sentencing the messenger, and speculating.

[speechlesstx]

When the FACTS came out, people went to jail so its a bit early on Benghazi to sentence people. All the FACTS aren't out and so far you are sentencing the messenger, and speculating.

Ah, so you don't mind the administration lying to you either.

[talaniman]

Ambassador Rice told you that things could change as more facts come to light on ALL those Sunday programs you guys are hollering about.

Seems you guys ignored the truth and only heard what you wanted too. She never said these where facts, just a preliminary report. 4 or 5 times if I heard right. Why do you ignore THAT simple fact?

[excon]

Hello Steve:

Ah, so you don't mind the administration lying to you either.

I don't think we have the same understanding about what a LIE is... YOU say because Obama didn't/couldn't close Gitmo, he LIED. I don't say that at all.

Obama DIDN'T lie. Rice DIDN'T lie. Them's is the facts. Live with it.

Excon

[speechlesstx]

It's at least entertaining to watch you guys dance around the FACT that the government you elected is lying to you.