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  • Sep 20, 2012, 09:26 AM
    speechlesstx
    Mideast eruption take 2
    Report: Never an Anti-American Protest in Benghazi, Only a Planned Attack

    Quote:

    CBS reports this morning that witnesses are saying "that there was never an anti-American protest outside of the consulate [in Benghazi, Libya]. Instead, they say, it came under planned attack. That is in direct contradiction to the administration's account of the incident."


    "What's clear," the CBS reporter concludes, "is that the public won't get a detailed account of what happened until after the election."

    Just another example of what we get for Obama's promise of an "unprecedented level of openness"? Could this be the beginning of the media doing their job? Naaa...
  • Sep 20, 2012, 09:31 AM
    smoothy
    Some of us knew this the day it happened... I'm a bit surprised CBS is actually not burrying this completely like they have so many other things... maybe there is hope for them yet.
  • Sep 20, 2012, 10:20 AM
    tomder55
    And they still lie about it in claiming that although it was a terrorist attack ,that it wasn't planned. Because if it was plannned then they'd have to admit that the Brotherhood in Cairo was complicit in the plot .And that would kind of ruin their narrative about the Brotherhood ;and this ridiculous diversion about some silly video .

    The two former Navy SEAL heroes killed in the attack ,Tyrone Woods, and Glen Doherty, were not part of Ambassador Chris Stevens' official embassy security detail but took up arms in an effort to protect the counsellate and the Ambassadoer when they were overrun by insurgents .

    . No ;in fact the Ambassador's protection was detailed to local Libyians with at best questionable loyalties (the insurgents knew of the safe house that the Ambassador attempted to escape to) ,who were hired by a British firm. Marines were not stationed at the embassy in Tripoli or the mission in Benghazi, as would typically have been the case.Why ? Because the US has tried to keep a low profile in Libya .
    Daily Press Briefing - September 18, 2012
  • Sep 20, 2012, 11:33 AM
    speechlesstx
    Just waiting for the rest of the media to do their job. Maybe Tapper will at least grill them on it.
  • Sep 20, 2012, 01:19 PM
    speechlesstx
    NBC actually joined the fray over the now "manufactured outrage," although this line cracks me up:

    Quote:

    Much of the mainstream media has played it as a spontaneous reaction to a disgusting film clip which denigrated Muslims and happened to be made and promoted in the USA.
    I would hope they consider themselves as part of that "much of the mainstream media."
  • Sep 20, 2012, 02:23 PM
    paraclete
    This is only telling us what was apparent from the beginning
  • Sep 20, 2012, 03:01 PM
    tomder55
    Then the administration has to answer for it's denials and continuing cover-up.
  • Sep 20, 2012, 03:33 PM
    smoothy
    I've spent enough time in the State Dept and still know enough people in it to call BS the instant they started to lie on that day.

    But it was patently obvious to most thinking people from the beginning.
  • Sep 20, 2012, 04:15 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    I've spent enough time in the State Dept and still know enough people in it to call BS the instant they started to lie on that day.

    But it was patently obvious to most thinking people from the beginning.

    Yes I don't know why they do that? Thinking that they don't want to give Al Qaeda any credit, don't want to expose their unpreparedness. The thing is the film trailer has been out there for months and yet, suddenly, it is an issue, the trailer didn't start a problem but as soon as the film became know it was used as an excuse to fermet trouble. I still ask, how come the Muslims in the US aren't protesting, aren't rioting? Are they being suppressed? Is this the result of an attempt to promote the film, if so the producer should be charged with public nuiance and promoting religious hatred
  • Sep 20, 2012, 05:31 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Yes I don't know why they do that? thinking that they don't want to give Al Qaeda any credit, don't want to expose their unpreparedness. The thing is the film trailer has been out there for months and yet, suddenly, it is an issue, the trailer didn't start a problem but as soon as the film became know it was used as an excuse to fermet trouble. I still ask, how come the Muslims in the US arn't protesting, arn't rioting? Are they being suppressed? Is this the result of an attempt to promote the film, if so the producer should be charged with public nuiance and promoting religious hatred

    I know a few Muslims well enough to consider them friends and know their personal and very private problems... they all mention their disgust with the troglodyte element over there any time they act up overseas.

    That's why they left their countries to come here. Also I might add... none of the ones I call friends wear the crap the more extreme elements wear. And they have said there is no requirement in the Koran to do so.

    There have been no mass protests here by the Muslims... (like the blacks are famous for, and to a lesser degree the Hispanics).

    The producer of that film has every right to make it... and considering the behaviors of the mouth breathers overseas doing the protesting... its likely quite accurate.

    Martin Scorsese wasn't lynched or prosecuted for "The last temptation of Christ" and this other producer shouldn't be either.
  • Sep 20, 2012, 06:46 PM
    tomder55
    There was a time when the libs celebrated freedom of speech and supported artists . God knows they still support artistic freedom here when it's target is Christianity . But it wasn't that long ago when the world's libs stood in solidarity with Salman Rushdie ,and openly read chapters out loud , when he wrote a book that the Muslim world considered disrespectful.
  • Sep 20, 2012, 07:41 PM
    paraclete
    Tom the Muslim world considers everything disrepectfull, any mention of Islam is disrespectfull. I have news for them; stop disrespecting my religion and I might consider not disrespecting a religion started by Mudhatmad. What do I want? I want the persecution to stop, the killings to stop. I want Muslims to allow us the same freedom they want for themselves. You know I applauded when I heard some Iranian girls had kicked the shlt out of an Iman who had a go at them about how they were dressed. The muslims are the fashion police, the thought police of this world and it needs to stop
  • Sep 21, 2012, 04:10 AM
    tomder55
    Quick quizz.. Who is the current US National Security Advisor ? (don't look it up... if you don't know just admit it )
  • Sep 21, 2012, 04:30 AM
    paraclete
    Not very high profile these days , O and Hill steal all the photo ops, I remember when it was Rice but isn't someone from the CIA
  • Sep 21, 2012, 04:50 AM
    tomder55
    No ,a retread from the Clintonoon State Dept. His claim to fame before now was to help in the negotiations for the Bosnian peace agreement . Before that he like many Dems revolved between being a Fannie Mae exec padding his wallet ,and a lobbyist. . He is also formerly from Goldman Sachs and Citigroup... what Ex would call a "bankster ".

    Point is , during these times he should be out front informing the public . Everyone should know his name.
  • Sep 21, 2012, 06:22 AM
    paraclete
    Can't see he has the experience to Do That Tom does he know anything about National Security?
  • Sep 21, 2012, 06:33 AM
    tomder55
    None that I know of except his time in the Clintoon State Dept as a negotiator . Obama's former National Security Advisor was highly critical of him for his lack of experience. Behind the scenes ,and under the radar ,he is very influential in shaping the Obama foreign policy.
  • Sep 21, 2012, 06:36 AM
    paraclete
    Oh so he knows something then, like when to get out?
  • Sep 21, 2012, 06:48 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Can't see he has the experience to Do That Tom does he know anything about National Security?

    Being qualified doesn't seem to be a matter of any importance to this administration... or the Democrat party for that matter these days.
  • Sep 21, 2012, 09:33 AM
    speechlesstx
    Pakistan, where our State Dept. has spent $70,000 to run ads apologizing for the offending movie, is having a
    "Day of Love." For Mohammad that is.

    Apparently expressing love for Mohammad involves rioting, burning their own cars, banks and cinemas and cutting people in little bits publicly.

    Quote:

    Mohammed Tariq Khan, a protester in Islamabad, said: "Our demand is that whoever has blasphemed against our holy Prophet should be handed over to us so we can cut him up into tiny pieces in front of the entire nation."
    I'm trying to follow the logic here but there is none. Seems some cartoons published in France stoked anger over the video made in California. So Pakistanis are pi$$ed at the video because the French published some cartoons and are tearing up their own stuff while we're apologizing for free speech. Is that about right?

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