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    #81

    Sep 25, 2012, 08:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    As I recalled they shipped them over there before they shipped them here, but point taken we don't want anyoneelse's idiots


    From my viewpoint, it would seem there is a great deal of questionable behaviour in the ruling circles over there, it is as if public office is an excuse to write your own rules
    Nope... they weren't shipping them here... the people coming here were fed up with what they were putting up with at home, the US Colonies were never a penal colony...

    The Democrat party feels anything is OK as long as its only them that gets to do it.
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    #82

    Sep 25, 2012, 09:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Nope...they weren't shipping them here....the people coming here were fed up with what they were putting up with at home, the US Colonies were never a penal colony...

    The Democrat party feels anything is OK as long as its only them that gets to do it.
    As you said the US wasn't a penal colony persee, but you are making up for it now so the same thinking that infested eighteenth century England must have taken root in the colonies. I guess those dissatisfied with British justice realised it had its usefullness.

    As far as the political process is concerned, I don't see a lot of difference, just swapping one set of cronies for another
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    #83

    Sep 26, 2012, 04:40 AM
    Yesterday Obama lied again to the UN overplaying the role some 2 bit Youtube video has on the riots in the ummah. I did not understand why he continued to cling to this fiction until it was pointed out to me that the full length movie about the wacking of OBL ;that had been scheduled to be released next month as the victory lap;high five, October surprise ;has now been delayed until after the election .

    The President and his minions have been adamant that the US has nothing to do with the video ;however ,it is alleged that the White House gave a lot of assistance to film director Kathryn Bigelow in her making of 'Zero Dark Thirty' .

    The mobs outside the embassy in Cairo and other places have chanted 'we are Osama Obama' . So imagine how that mob will react when a full length Hollywierd production about the hunting down and killing of OBL is released.
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    #84

    Sep 26, 2012, 04:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    ..however ,it is alleged that the White House gave alot of assistance to film director Kathryn Bigelow in her making of 'Zero Dark Thirty' .
    Man I'd love to see some evidence of that. Do you have any?
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    Sep 26, 2012, 05:05 AM
    That's why I used the word "alleged " . You want me to produce evidence of an allegation ?
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    Sep 26, 2012, 05:09 AM
    Will you take CNN as a source ?
    E-mails show White House support for bin Laden movie – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs

    Newly released e-mails show the Obama administration was eager to help the makers of an upcoming documentary on the dramatic raid that led to the death of Osama bin Laden - and the e-mails are likely to once again raise questions about whether the filmmakers had special access.

    The records from the CIA and Defense Department were made public Tuesday by the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch in response to a Freedom of Information Act request.

    Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said the e-mails indicate the Obama administration "played fast and loose with national security information to help Hollywood filmmakers," and that there was no doubt the "White House was intensely interested in this film that was set to portray President Obama as 'gutsy'" - a reference to one of the e-mails that said the raid "was a gutsy decision" by the president.

    The e-mails indicate filmmaker Kathryn Bigelow, screenwriter Mark Boal and other members of their team were given special access to senior administration officials just weeks after the May 1, 2011, raid as they researched their movie entitled "Zero Dark Thirty," originally scheduled to come out in October but now delayed until after the presidential election.
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    #87

    Sep 26, 2012, 05:57 AM
    Well there you are Tom it's no longer an allegation, CNN makes it fact?
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    #88

    Sep 26, 2012, 06:05 AM
    Hello again, wingers:

    So, assisting a film maker who wants to make a POSITIVE film for you is WRONG?? What planet are you living on?

    excon
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    #89

    Sep 26, 2012, 06:10 AM
    So Tom is defending Islam now?
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    Sep 26, 2012, 06:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    imagine how that mob will react when a full length Hollywierd production about the hunting down and killing of OBL is released.
    Hello again, tom:

    Muslims don't like the west to diss Mohammed... But, there's no evidence that they mind us dissing Ben Laden... If they were going to riot, doncha think they would have done it when we killed him??

    You really don't know what's going on over there, do you? Oh, right... They hate us for our freedoms...

    Bwa, ha ha ha.

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    #91

    Sep 26, 2012, 07:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    Muslims don't like the west to diss Mohammed... But, there's no evidence that they mind us dissing Ben Laden... If they were going to riot, doncha think they would have done it when we killed him?
    Aren't you glad I have such a great memory to keep you on track?

    Protesters condemn 'brutal killing' of bin Laden
    'Jihad against America will not stop with the death of Osama,' Pakistani cleric says

    Muslims in the Philippines, Indonesia and Pakistan protested Friday over the killing of Osama bin Laden, with one cleric vowing the holy war against the U.S. "will not stop with the death of Osama."

    People in the crowds referred to the former al-Qaida leader as a martyr.

    In Manila, Philippine police used anti-riot shields to stop a march on the U.S. Embassy by dozens of Muslims.

    The marchers, who set off from Manila's main mosque, were prevented from reaching the boulevard leading to the seaside embassy compound after Friday's noon prayers. The protesters later dispersed peacefully.

    Protest leader and Islamic cleric Alim Jamil Yahya said he condemned the "brutal killing" of bin Laden and described the al-Qaida founder's burial at sea as a desecration of his body.

    He said that although many Muslims did not agree with bin Laden's methods, they still revered him as a martyr because he fought for freedom against oppression by "the satanic U.S. hegemony."
    This just in from London-istan: Violent clashes outside U.S. Embassy after hundreds of UK Muslims stage mock funeral for 'murdered' Bin Laden

    By Daily Mail Reporter
    UPDATED: 09:03 EST, 7 May 2011

    Violent clashes broke out around the world today as thousands of supporters of Osama bin Laden took to the streets to protest at the Al-Qaeda leader's death.

    While many protests took place across the Muslim world, the most extraordinary took place in London, where hundreds of supporters gathered at the U.S. embassy to stage a mock 'funeral service' for the slain terror leader.

    The violence erupted just days after the city - often dubbed London-istan because of its reputation for Islamic extremism - was branded a major recruiting ground for Al Qaeda.




    More images:

    Flag on fire: Pakistani protesters burn a representation of the Star and Stripes in protest against the killing of Osama Bin Laden in Multan


    Indonesia: The Al Kaida group, which took a public oath to avenge the death of Bin Laden


    Devotion: An Islamist kisses a picture of Osama Bin Laden during a protest in Cairo
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    #92

    Sep 26, 2012, 07:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Yesterday Obama lied again to the UN overplaying the role some 2 bit Youtube video has on the riots in the ummah.
    Even though virtually everyone else knows it's a lie.

    An anti-Islam film that sparked violent protests in many countries had “nothing to do with” a deadly attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi earlier this month, Libya’s president told NBC News.

    In an exclusive interview with NBC News’ Ann Curry, President Mohamed Magarief discounted claims that the attack was in response to a movie produced in California and available on YouTube. He noted that the assault happened on Sept. 11 and that the video had been available for months before that.

    “Reaction should have been, if it was genuine, should have been six months earlier. So it was postponed until the 11th of September,” he said. “They chose this date, 11th of September to carry a certain message.”


    Magarief said there were no protesters at the site before the attack, which he noted came in two assaults, first with rocket-propelled grenades on the consulate, then with mortars at a safe house.
    The White House knew this was the work of terrorists in less than 24 hours, in direct contradiction to their story five days later.

    When will the media hold them accountable? When will you libs here do the same?
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    #93

    Sep 26, 2012, 07:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    When will the media hold them accountable? When will you libs here do the same?
    Hello again, Steve:

    Talk about memory... I held him accountable just yesterday... I SAID he should have known it was terrorism sooner, and I SAID he was a bad guy for missing it... What I DON'T think, is that he's in cahoots with the Muslim Brotherhood like you guys do.

    What else do you want? Do you want me to call him a socialist Marxist Kenyon hell bent on destroying the American way of life?? Well, it ain't going to happen...

    excon
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    #94

    Sep 26, 2012, 07:54 AM
    Nah you don't have to call him Kenyan .
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    #95

    Sep 26, 2012, 07:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Talk about memory... I held him accountable just yesterday... I SAID he should have known it was terrorism sooner, and I SAID he was a bad guy for missing it... What I DON'T think, is that he's in cahoots with the Muslim Brotherhood like you guys do.

    What else do you want? Do you want me to call him a socialist Marxist Kenyon hell bent on destroying the American way of life??? Well, it ain't gonna happen...

    excon
    I must have missed that yesterday, just like I missed where I thought he was in cahoots with the Muslim Brotherhood. Is that one of those dog whistle thingies I can't hear?
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    #96

    Sep 26, 2012, 08:01 AM
    My point about bringing up the movie is that we know that the attack on Stevens was the mission;that the attacks on the Cairo embassy was a ruse . That they have spread is because of the initial effectiveness of the attacks. Now knowing the attack was retaliation for the killing of AQ's 2nd in command... Abu Yahya al-Libi (ie.. from Libya ) ;what will be their reaction to a chest bumping full length celebration of OBL ?
    Don't get me wrong... I plan on going to see it opening weekend and will cheer with the best of them.
    I think Obama is lying about the video to imply this is about disrespect for Islam because his bs that if you wack OBL the war on jihadistan is over has been tragically proven a fantasy.
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    #97

    Sep 26, 2012, 08:02 AM
    Still better than that crazy mexican mormon.
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    #98

    Sep 26, 2012, 09:59 AM
    The Mormon was smart enough to work hard enough and make a fortune when he grew up in poverty... He wasn't a Kennedy who inherited their money.

    Unlike Obama who grew up and lived a life of privilege... who only made what money he has selling two books to a bunch of fools.
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    #99

    Sep 26, 2012, 10:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    ... when he grew up in poverty....
    Romney? LOL! You have no idea what you are talking about... again.
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    #100

    Sep 26, 2012, 10:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Unlike Obama who grew up and lived a life of privledge......who only made what money he has selling two books to a bunch of fools.
    Are you a lawyer? What is your profession?

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