Ask Experts Questions for FREE Help !
Ask
    Turtlicious's Avatar
    Turtlicious Posts: 9, Reputation: 1
    New Member
     
    #1

    Sep 18, 2012, 01:55 PM
    I'm 19 years old, I live in a group home, and I have been told complaining=terminate
    I am staying in a group home in Los Angeles, I'm going to school and looking for work. Recently, my home manager has been aggressive and rude, I have not been getting the medication unless I ask, (It's locked up in the staff's office,) and have been told I must go to sports games when I have homework and other responsibilities. (I instead go to Starbucks, it's not a huge deal just seems wrong somehow... ) I recently complained to the in-house case worker, and she has treated me worse since then. Ontop of that she has told me because of my age that I have no rights in the system, and that if I continue to complain that I will be terminated, and my bed will be closed. I am terrified because that would mean I would be homeless, I'd be unable to finish school, and incapable of securing more housing. I told my Therapist what she said, and with my permission she relayed it to the in-house case manager.

    I have just heard her say that she won't put up with an adult complaining in her group home, and it sounds like she's putting in the work to terminate me. What can I do? Should I keep complaining this time to people higher up? I feel like my choice is to lie down and be treated terribly or be homeless.

    I don't know what the right decision is to make, I'm scared, and confused.

    Thank you for listening/reading.
    Wondergirl's Avatar
    Wondergirl Posts: 39,354, Reputation: 5431
    Jobs & Parenting Expert
     
    #2

    Sep 18, 2012, 01:59 PM
    Do they consider you a chronic complainer? Have you had problems with this before?
    JudyKayTee's Avatar
    JudyKayTee Posts: 46,503, Reputation: 4600
    Uber Member
     
    #3

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Turtlicious View Post
    I am staying in a group home in Los Angeles, I'm going to school and looking for work. Recently, my home manager has been aggressive and rude, I have not been getting the medication unless I ask, (It's locked up in the staff's office,) and have been told I must go to sports games when I have homework and other responsibilities. (I instead go to Starbucks, it's not a huge deal just seems wrong somehow...) I recently complained to the in-house case worker, and she has treated me worse since then. Ontop of that she has told me because of my age that I have no rights in the system, and that if I continue to complain that I will be terminated, and my bed will be closed. I am terrified because that would mean I would be homeless, I'd be unable to finish school, and incapable of securing more housing. I told my Therapist what she said, and with my permission she relayed it to the in-house case manager.

    I have just heard her say that she won't put up with an adult complaining in her group home, and it sounds like she's putting in the work to terminate me. What can I do? Should I keep complaining this time to people higher up? I feel like my choice is to lie down and be treated terribly or be homeless.

    I don't know what the right decision is to make, I'm scared, and confused.

    Thank you for listening/reading.


    The Law says you age out when you reach the age of majority - usually 18. You are staying there because "they" are allowing you to stay there.

    How are they treating you horribly? Not letting you go to sporting events? I think if you keep complaining you're going to find out what "horrible" really is.

    I understand you have to ask for your medication (which I assume you don't need to pay for); you do get to go to Starbucks; you apparently receive free counselling.

    I'd be really sure I had someplace to go, someone to put a roof over my head and food in my stomach and all that goes with that, before making too many complaints and getting aged out.

    My feeling is that there is someone who is a minor who could use your bed - someone "higher" on the food chain is very likely to think that the law is being stretched for you, you are ungrateful, someone else could use the bed - and you will be gone. I'm amazed that the home is allowing you to stay. In my area the taxpayers would be up in arms. Eighteen and you're on your own - unless you're in custody of the Police of mental health system.

    Just as a side issue - why are you in a group home?
    Turtlicious's Avatar
    Turtlicious Posts: 9, Reputation: 1
    New Member
     
    #4

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Do they consider you a chronic complainer? Have you had problems with this before?
    No, I'm generally quiet, soft spoken, and introverted. The only time previously I had complained was 2 years ago when I was 17 and my ILP coordinator called me a fat*** because I was focusing on school instead of looking for work.
    JudyKayTee's Avatar
    JudyKayTee Posts: 46,503, Reputation: 4600
    Uber Member
     
    #5

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Turtlicious View Post
    No, I'm generally quiet, soft spoken, and introverted. The only time previously I had complained was 2 years ago when I was 17 and my ILP coordinator called me a fat*** because I was focussing on school instead of looking for work.

    Soft spoken and complaining are two different things. Are you saying you are normally soft spoken but you raised your voice when you complained?

    What education are you finishing? High school, tech school, soemthing else.
    Wondergirl's Avatar
    Wondergirl Posts: 39,354, Reputation: 5431
    Jobs & Parenting Expert
     
    #6

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:04 PM
    When do you "age out" of this group home?
    Turtlicious's Avatar
    Turtlicious Posts: 9, Reputation: 1
    New Member
     
    #7

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    The Law says you age out when you reach the age of majority - usually 18. You are staying there because "they" are allowing you to stay there.

    How are they treating you horribly? Not letting you go to sporting events? I think if you keep complaining you're going to find out what "horrible" really is.
    The exact opposite, and I mentioned this is a side issue. Also, that force me to do things when I have papers and work for school

    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    I understand you have to ask for your medication (which I assume you don't need to pay for); you do get to go to Starbucks; you apparently receive free counselling.

    I'd be really sure I had someplace to go, someone to put a roof over my head and food in my stomach and all that goes with that, before making too many complaints and getting aged out.
    My counselling is covered by Medi-Cal, as for the starbucks, because I want to focus on my school, I am being punished. I am regularly marked down "points" (A system that judges how well you're doing in the home,) for choosing school over activities.

    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    My feeling is that there is someone who is a minor who could use your bed - someone "higher" on the food chain is very likely to think that the law is being stretched for you, you are ungrateful, someone else could use the bed - and you will be gone. I'm amazed that the home is allowing you to stay. In my area the taxpayers would be up in arms. Eighteen and you're on your own - unless you're in custody of the Police of mental health system.
    Maybe you're right, I honestly have no clue, but I can tell you that I have tried my hardest to make the best of my situation, and now that I'm so close to self sufficiency it seems wrong for it to be snatched away. It also seems wrong to be treated the way I am.

    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Just as a side issue - why are you in a group home?
    My mother was doing Vicodin when I was 12, and I ran away to live on the streets because I had no family to take care of me when she Overdosed, so I was placed into a foster home after 2 years of that, I had a survivalist mentality and after about 6 months in a foster home I was placed in a group home and was bounced around, eventually I was able to overcome my behaviour issues with medication and therapy, though I still have PTSD. I've been in the same one for about a year and a half now, and I'm not ungrateful. My problem is why are people allowed to treat me terribly because of my age?

    I'm not sure what your background is, though I thank you for your reply, at what point is bullying OK though?
    Turtlicious's Avatar
    Turtlicious Posts: 9, Reputation: 1
    New Member
     
    #8

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Soft spoken and complaining are two different things. Are you saying you are normally soft spoken but you raised your voice when you complained?
    I complained through an E-mail, as I'm a good writer, and am better at getting my point across through text. It was strongly worded but not aggressive. I also CC'd the manager so that she did not think I was going behind her back, I had raised the issue with her before.

    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    What education are you finishing? High school, tech school, soemthing else.
    I'm majoring in psychology, and have been working on this since I was young, about 17 after getting my GED.
    Turtlicious's Avatar
    Turtlicious Posts: 9, Reputation: 1
    New Member
     
    #9

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by wondergirl View Post
    when do you "age out" of this group home?
    21
    Wondergirl's Avatar
    Wondergirl Posts: 39,354, Reputation: 5431
    Jobs & Parenting Expert
     
    #10

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:15 PM
    What is your studying going to lead to? Diploma? Job? Career?
    Turtlicious's Avatar
    Turtlicious Posts: 9, Reputation: 1
    New Member
     
    #11

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    What is your studying going to lead to? diploma? job? career?
    I would like to be either a Therapist or a Psychiatrist, though I'd also be interested in working for a group home. I want to help people, like I was helped.
    Wondergirl's Avatar
    Wondergirl Posts: 39,354, Reputation: 5431
    Jobs & Parenting Expert
     
    #12

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Turtlicious View Post
    I would like to be either a Therapist or a Psychiatrist, though I'd also be interested in working for a group home. I want to help people, like I was helped.
    You'll need at least a master's for therapist. How far are you in school now?
    Turtlicious's Avatar
    Turtlicious Posts: 9, Reputation: 1
    New Member
     
    #13

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You'll need at least a master's for therapist. How far are you in school now?
    I have my Bachelors, but I am having issues finding a job, the field I want to work in asks me for job experience, and I have none.
    Wondergirl's Avatar
    Wondergirl Posts: 39,354, Reputation: 5431
    Jobs & Parenting Expert
     
    #14

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Turtlicious View Post
    I have my Bachelors, but I am having issues finding a job, the field I want to work in asks me for job experience, and I have none.
    What field?
    JudyKayTee's Avatar
    JudyKayTee Posts: 46,503, Reputation: 4600
    Uber Member
     
    #15

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Turtlicious View Post
    21

    This has been asked before - with almost no exceptions you "age out" at 18 in California. At that point you CAN go from a "group home" to specialized housing (shelters, things of that nature).

    I wonder why you are the exception. Maybe you aren't there at their pleasure. I would guess I am wrong if it's a group home and you are living there at 19.

    You are 19 with a Bachelor's Degree? That in and of itself is amazing.

    So you are enrolled in a Master's Program? Are there grants, scholarships, something else available to you, something that would allow you to live on your own?
    Wondergirl's Avatar
    Wondergirl Posts: 39,354, Reputation: 5431
    Jobs & Parenting Expert
     
    #16

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:28 PM
    I work as a job coach and help people improve their resumes, interviewing techniques, etc. I'm thinking just get a job somewhere, not necessarily in the field you want to be in.

    How did you get a bachelor's at 18/19?
    Turtlicious's Avatar
    Turtlicious Posts: 9, Reputation: 1
    New Member
     
    #17

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:34 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    This has been asked before - with almost no exceptions you "age out" at 18 in California. At that point you CAN go from a "group home" to specialized housing (shelters, things of that nature).

    I wonder why you are the exception. Maybe you aren't there at their pleasure. I would guess I am wrong if it's a group home and you are living there at 19.

    You are 19 with a Bachelor's Degree? That in and of itself is amazing.

    So you are enrolled in a Master's Program? Are there grants, scholarships, something else available to you, something that would allow you to live on your own?
    They go to pay my tuition at USC, and even if I could afford to live off college money, I don't think I'm ready, while I'm intelligent I tend to have tunnel vision, focusing on only one thing forever, I need people around me right now to help me focus on everything, not just school.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I work as a job coach and help people improve their resumes, interviewing techniques, etc. I'm thinking just get a job somewhere, not necessarily in the field you want to be in.

    How did you get a bachelor's at 18/19?
    I dropped out of school early, getting my GED at a very young age, I then started immediately at LACC taking as many classes in my field as I could, even when I was bouncing from group home to group home I still managed to go to school every day. SOmetimes breaking the rules to do so.

    I'll admit I had to be sneaky and a bit dishonest to get my GED so early, but I felt it was worth it.

    And yes, I used to have a job as a telemarketer for an SEO firm, but I had to quit because ontop of a full school load, I was working for about 20 hours on the weekends. Which was awful because it was commission only.
    Wondergirl's Avatar
    Wondergirl Posts: 39,354, Reputation: 5431
    Jobs & Parenting Expert
     
    #18

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:37 PM
    Is it possible you have Asperger's?
    Turtlicious's Avatar
    Turtlicious Posts: 9, Reputation: 1
    New Member
     
    #19

    Sep 18, 2012, 02:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Is it possible you have Asperger's?
    Intense depression, which I've coped with by using therapy and Welbutrin.
    Wondergirl's Avatar
    Wondergirl Posts: 39,354, Reputation: 5431
    Jobs & Parenting Expert
     
    #20

    Sep 18, 2012, 03:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Turtlicious View Post
    Intense depression, which I've coped with by using therapy and Welbutrin.
    You can have Asperger's and be depressed. Some of the traits you mentioned sounded Aspie-ish.

    So what about job hunting?

Not your question? Ask your question View similar questions

 

Question Tools Search this Question
Search this Question:

Advanced Search

Add your answer here.


Check out some similar questions!

Husbands parents told him to put home on their property 23 years ago [ 2 Answers ]

My husband bought a trailer 23 years ago. His parents talked him into putting it on their property since an acre would be his one day. We have since added on and the home cannot be moved. My husband holds the title to the home and isn't minding his mommy so she is wanting to evict eveyone in our...

Boyfriend doesn't want to live together after 4 years but yet wants to buy me a home [ 4 Answers ]

He says that buying me a home would be an investment for the both of us in our future. He has 3 teenagers at home & I have 3 10, 8 &5. He has always said he wants to live together & wants 2 marry me but now when it comes down to me having to move in the next few months he has now said his son who...

I am 20 weeks pregnant with no fluid ar ound baby,I was told to terminate pregnancy, [ 1 Answers ]

I am 20 weeks pr egnant with no fluid ar ound baby,I was told to ter minate pr egnancy...

Renting room in home need to terminate due to conditions in home. [ 4 Answers ]

Hi, I rent a room from a women in South Carolina. I would like to know what action I should take in terminating my lease and what rights I have. I have a 6 month lease and have tolerated a ridiculous amount of stuff from her so far. I pay 325 a month and a 200 deposit and have paid for 3...

Desire to terminate live in relationship [ 3 Answers ]

Currently, I am living with a man in a home (the only name on the lease is mine and he moved in at least one year after I first signed my contract). We were planning to marry but it has become increasingly obvious to me that this is NOT going to work. I have told him on several occasions that...


View more questions Search