[talaniman]

and I'll remind you in case you have forgotten that I was more than willing that we assist the new democracy in Iraq in their infancy ;but it was Obama and Evita that cut the rug out of our assistance to them .I'll also remind you that it is Obama who threw his support behind the Brotherhood ;a terrorist organization .

They were ready to deal with things on their own in Iraq, they didn't need us, and we didn't need there condition. Case closed. American businesses is all over Iraq.

[paraclete]

You didn't go there to stay and in any case you being there didn't stop them bombing each other senseless, you made no real difference to the life of the Iraqi, just helped them exchange one tyranny for another and they have proven themselves incapable of western style democracy

[paraclete]

What the hell this has to do with us I don't know

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-gas-sydney-protesters-20120915-25yrb.html

I expect muslims are just looking for an excuse

So america, do us a favour, keep your trouble in your own back yard and please decide soon that making hate films isn't and never was free speech

[tomder55]

The blue helmet UN Multinational Peace Keepers were attacked and overrun in the Sinai . There were wounded casualties. The attackers threw hand grenades, fired rpg's,entered the peacekeepers camp, and raised a black Islamist flag.
The peace keepers have been there since the 1979 Camp David Accords peace treaty was negotiated and brokered by Jimmy Carter .The deal remained in place for almost 25 years until the Brotherhood took over Egypt with the tacit approval and support of President Zero.

Morsi pays lip service to the accords of course. He isn't stupid enough to come right out and scrap them... not with US bucks on the line. But he has been very open in his intent to "amend " the accords. His advisor ,Mohammed Esmat Seif Al-Dawla,says that the amends must include an Egyptian remilitarization of the Sinai... in other words ;a signiicant military mobilization on the Israeli border .

Meanwhile our allies /non-allies depending on the hour ,have organized anti-American demonstrations/riots /attacks throughout the ummah . In Bengazi ,the Airport has been closed because of all the ani-aircraft fire by our "allies " in Libya .

The President's foreign policy is in ruins,and requires at the minimum an explanation to the people's House... Congress about what went wrong,and where he plans on steering the ship of state going forward.. But I'm hearing from Congressman Devin Nunes that the State Dept is refusing to send a spokesperson to Capitol Hill to testify to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Perhaps they can't defend the President's 'shoot first-aim later' blunder about our relationship with Egypt. Oh I'm sure our relationship is begging for reevaluation. But for now ,Egypt is an ally ,and has been for decades .The US and Egyptian militaries still communicate and still work together. We still hold Egypt accountable for its peace treaty with Israel. The US has just pledged even more aid . That looks like a duck and quacks like a duck to me .

Until there is a formal declaration to the contrary ,the President is bound to that reality. His comment was contradictory mixed signals that does not help clarify the US position at all. Had he been a staffer at the State Dept ,and made such a public comment he likely would've been fired. Keep that in mind in November .

[tomder55]

so america, do us a favour, keep your trouble in your own back yard and please decide soon that making hate films isn't and never was free speech

Have you seen the video ? I haven't.. all I've seen is a 3rd rate trailer that has the quality of a D grade high school project. You really think this is about an alleged video insult ? Please ! You are smarter than that.
The "peaceful religion" has slandered Judaism and Christianity with blasphemies for years and you don't see these orchestrated mock outrage riots.
The fact that Aussies have come under the cross hairs should tell you it has nothing to do with the video. Go ahead ;retreat into your island fortress and pretend that it can't happen to you if you cower under cover.

[excon]

The President's foreign policy is in ruins,and requires at the minimum an explanation to the people's House

Hello tom:

So, Obama should prostrate himself in front of the obstructionist Republican House, and tell them what went wrong?? Really?? He should DO that?? Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

The closer we get to the election the more desperate you sound...

Obama by a Huge, HUMONGOUS margin, and it's getting LARGER.

excon

[NeedKarma]

The closer we get to the election the more desperate you sound...

This is what I am noticing as well.

[excon]

This is what I am noticing as well.

Hello NK:

Our right wingers apparently believe the same thing Romney does. Here's what his campaign says,

“There's a pretty compelling story that if you had a President Romney, you'd be in a different situation,” Richard Williamson, a top Romney foreign policy adviser, told The Washington Post..

In Egypt and Libya and Yemen, again demonstrations — the respect for American has gone down, there's not a sense of American resolve,

Resolve... RESOLVE? He said it was our lack of RESOLVE!! That means if they were AFRAID of us, like they would be under a Romney administration, they wouldn't be demonstrating...

That is SO stupid, and SO outrageous on SO many levels that, even I have no comment on it...

Excon

[tomder55]

Obama by a Huge, HUMONGOUS margin, and it's getting LARGER.

So did Jimmy Carter . Carter had double digit leads,and a huge lead as late as Oct 26 1980. Now what did Carter in?. The Islamist Revoution in Iran , a poor debate performance ,high gas prices (they have more than doubled in the Obama term) ,and pure arrogance dismissing his opponent as a lightweight.

[excon]

So did Jimmy Carter .

Hello again, tom:

Well, history MIGHT repeat itself, or it MIGHT not... My bet is not.

Romney IS a lightweight. He'd be the MOST dangerous president we've ever had...

excon

[tomder55]

Romney IS a lightweight. He'd be the MOST dangerous president we've ever had...

And the President is incompetent . The security at the Benghazi Consulate was a lock and key. The administration "explains" this by saying it was an "interim facility." But why should they be concerned ? It's not like the city was a hotbed of radical Islamist activity... right ?

The Department of State warns U.S. citizens against all but essential travel to Libya. The incidence of violent crime, especially carjacking and robbery, has become a serious problem. In addition, political violence in the form of assassinations and vehicle bombs has increased in both Benghazi and Tripoli.

Libya

[excon]

The security at the Benghazi Consulate was a lock and key.

Hello again, tom:

If our consulates and embassy's become armed fortress's and no longer accessible by the people, we might as well close them down and bring the people home...

You didn't respond to Romney saying if the Muslims were AFRAID of us, they wouldn't be demonstrating... I think you BELIEVE that too. Otherwise you wouldn't blame Obama for EVERY bad thing that happens to us in the world... If Romney were running things, there WOULDN'T BE bad things happening to us..

To him (and you), Iraq was a triumph over a nuclear-armed Saddam Hussein, Barack Obama has spent the last three and a half years on an endless apology tour, an invasion of Iran is long past due, and the United States should resume torture as soon as possible.

THAT is why he'd be the MOST dangerous president we've ever had..

excon

[paraclete]

Have you seen the video ? I haven't ..all I've seen is a 3rd rate trailer that has the quality of a D grade high school project. You really think this is about an alleged video insult ? Please ! You are smarter than that.
The "peaceful religion" has slandered Judaism and Christianity with blasphemies for years and you don't see these orchestrated mock outrage riots.
The fact that Aussies have come under the cross hairs should tell you it has nothing to do with the video. Go ahead ;retreat into your island fortress and pretend that it can't happen to you if you cower under cover.

Yes Tom I have seen the video, a rambling piece of crud that you really have to be looking to work out what it is on about, poor photography, virtually no script, RS editing, something about extortion and underage sex. The people working on it must have thought it was a porn film.

The average muslim knows nothing but what they are told, mere cannon fodder for the nut cases, this why we have Them running loose in Sydney. I haven't heard of them running loose in the US. The american embassy is in a tall building, no opportunity to force entry there, unlike the poorly protected hacienda in Benghazi

Tom we know it can happen to us we arrested a muslim terror cell the other day, really upset the good citizens of Melbourne it did and we don't cower, but we don't need your problems here, we have our own, mainly imported under a misguided humanitiarian program and we still keep taking these people from these war zones. You guys perpetrated many of these wars and you should open your doors to the millions of refugees you created, God knows you have enough empty houses to house them all

[tomder55]

If our consulates and embassy's become armed fortress's and no longer accessible by the people, we might as well close them down and bring the people home...

And if the local host nation cannot protect them then it is up to us to protect them .What we have here is a 9-11 truther in Egypt who's government is complicit in instigating the attacks. Morsi and his government should be held personally responsible for the safety of American Embassies and consulates in their nation.. and that is the same for every other nation where our staffs are threatened .

[tomder55]

Clete ,I have little sympathies to the morons sensibilities who have listened to their clerics slander and defame Judaism with 'blood libel' and other outrageous charges since the founding of their religion.If they dish it out they should expect to get some in return. But instead of defending our freedom of expression and thought ;this adm has gone on with it's apology tour ;and is actively seeking to prosecute the author.

[excon]

this adm has gone on with it's apology tour ;and is actively seeking to prosecute the author.

Hello again, tom:

I can only repeat what I said above.. Romney says the problem is America's lack of Resolve... RESOLVE? That means if they were AFRAID of us, like they would be under a Romney administration, they wouldn't be demonstrating...

Apparently, you and Romney think we need a couple MORE Mid East wars... That'll teach 'em! Let's start with Iran.

That is SO stupid, and SO outrageous on SO many levels that, even I have no comment on it...

excon

[tomder55]

No I don't want no more Middle East wars .But it is the weakness on display that will lead to them.

[Wondergirl]

No I don't want no more Middle East wars .But it is the weakness on display that will lead to them.

There's no weakness on display. You want us to bomb the Mideast?

I watched the first minutes of that movie. It's worse than LaHay's Left Behind! Can't believe anyone would throw an RPG at anything except the movie screen

[tomder55]

No I want the embassies protected ;or close down the missions . Let me ask you ;what will the UN do about it's forces being assaulted ? Don't answer... I'll tell you . They will meet in NY soon and make hate speeches against Israel.

[talaniman]

Its almost funny how you condemn them for talking about us, but say nothing when the loonies talk about them.

Seems you should know better, being free and all. They aren't free yet, and have no clue about what free is. While Obama may not be perfect, Mitt is clueless on everything except his tax cut!

You righties here seem to want what those righties there want, the church to make the rules and tell the people what to do. So what's the difference between Christian and Muslim fundamentalist right wing loonies? You guys just know how to look normal and be sneakier, and can get quietly elected!

OOPS so do they, my bad! Oh wait,I know the difference, silly me, you guys run to kiss Netanyahu butt, even when his own people are a lot more cautious about listening to his right wing pandering.

I love you loonies, but you guys are crazy, and completely out of step with reality! And don't expect an apology!! Expect a MUD slide you so richly deserve.