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    #101

    Aug 3, 2012, 11:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Lets get back to facts that we have or are you intentionally ducking the plan that Romney has ONLINE.

    What parts do YOU like? Need a link?

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    Facts? Ha ha ha... Reid is blowing rumors out his a$$ and you want to talk facts?? What facts does he have?? How many tax returns has he released? Why is his rumor more substantial than mine?? He's gay, prove me wrong.
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    #102

    Aug 3, 2012, 11:46 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    He's gay, prove me wrong.
    Hello again, Steve:

    So, you get pissed that Reid is spreading rumors, but you were FINE with the LIE that is STILL circulating about "you didn't build that"..

    Why don't you slam that? It's an OUT and OUT lie. When are YOU going to do the right thing?

    IF Reid is lying, all Romney has to do is show us the returns, and then Reid will BE the fool he LOOKS like. Wonder WHY he doesn't do that...

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    #103

    Aug 3, 2012, 11:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Facts? Ha ha ha...Reid is blowing rumors out his a$$ and you want to talk facts??? What facts does he have??? How many tax returns has he released? Why is his rumor more substantial than mine??? He's gay, prove me wrong.
    Lets get this straight, you prefer stuff that people blow out their a$$ to facts?? DUDE!?
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    #104

    Aug 3, 2012, 12:38 PM
    Well so much for the right having discussions based on facts, it's all feelings and emotions.
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    #105

    Aug 4, 2012, 05:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    So, you get pissed that Reid is spreading rumors, but you were FINE with the LIE that is STILL circulating about "you didn't build that"..

    Why don't you slam that? It's an OUT and OUT lie. When are YOU gonna do the right thing?

    IF Reid is lying, all Romney has to do is show us the returns, and then Reid will BE the fool he LOOKS like. Wonder WHY he doesn't do that...

    excon
    Why did Obama wait so long to release his BC? Why won't he release his Harvard transcripts? Why doesn't Reid release his tax returns? You have a double standard, ex.
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    #106

    Aug 4, 2012, 05:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Well so much for the right having discussions based on facts, it's all feelings and emotions.
    They're siding with a rumor and I'm the one that's abandoned facts? Bwa ha ha ha!
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    #107

    Aug 4, 2012, 05:12 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    They're siding with a rumor and I'm the one that's abandoned facts? Bwa ha ha ha!
    Tal asked you here to comment on the facts of a matter but you totally dismissed him and would rather call someone gay.
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    #108

    Aug 4, 2012, 05:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Lets get this straight, you prefer stuff that people blow out their a$$ to facts??? DUDE!!!!!!??
    Dude, I'm not the one that votes for liberals.
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    #109

    Aug 4, 2012, 05:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Dude, I'm not the one that votes for liberals.
    That made no sense and was totally irrelevant. Do you have anything substantial to add?
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    #110

    Aug 4, 2012, 05:52 AM
    Under Obama, a Record Decline in Government Jobs - NYTimes.com

    PolitiFact | Paul Krugman says government jobs have fallen by half million since January 2009

    Obama has been shrinking government since he got here, you would think the Tea Party would be happy about that. It should be noted that previous republican presidents lowered the uneployment rate by making more government jobs.

    Government Cutbacks Separate This Expansion From Others - Real Time Economics - WSJ

    And reined in regulations

    Obama Wrote 5% Fewer Rules Than Bush While Costing Business - Bloomberg

    Everything the Tea Party and the Republicans say they wanted. Yet all we get is gloom, doom, and more hollering,and a bunch of BS about liberals.

    And they get offended when we call them loony! If they weren't distracted by what comes from a guys butt, or a females vagina, you think we could be doing better?

    Of course we could.
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    #111

    Aug 4, 2012, 06:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Tal asked you here to comment on the facts of a matter but you totally dismissed him and would rather call someone gay.
    Do you even have a clue?
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    #112

    Aug 4, 2012, 06:24 AM
    Um, you sure you want to use this as a measure of accomplishment?

    From your source:

    That record, which will seem a dubious distinction to public-sector employees, is largely a result not of federal policy but of shrinking state governments.

    ...

    But if teacher employment is the measure, the cuts have been greater under Mr. Obama. Education jobs at the local level are down 3 percent under Mr. Obama, compared to 2.1 percent in the early Reagan years.

    ...

    Federal employment fell 1.3 percent in 2011, but for the three years it is up 1.3 percent, while the total fell by the same amount in Mr. Reagan’s first three years.

    Smaller state governments, fewer teachers and more federal workers. Yep, that's a record Obama should be running on.
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    #113

    Aug 4, 2012, 06:29 AM
    "You didn't build that..." -Barack Hussein Obama, 2012
    Hello again, Steve:

    So, you love that LIE so much, that you put it in your signature, huh?? When are you going to start acting RIGHT?

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    #114

    Aug 4, 2012, 06:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    So, you love that LIE so much, that you put it in your signature, huh??? When are you gonna start acting RIGHT?

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    Apparently you didn't read the first quote. It all makes perfect sense, no lie necessary.
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    #115

    Aug 4, 2012, 06:41 AM
    P.S. I still want to know if you love rumors or hate them. Or does it just depend on who it hurts?
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    #116

    Aug 4, 2012, 06:46 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    P.S. I still wanna know if you love rumors or hate them. Or does it just depend on who it hurts?
    Hello again, Steve:

    Refer me to where you denounced the rumors of Obama's birth certificate. I'll wait.

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    #117

    Aug 4, 2012, 07:06 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Um, you sure you want to use this as a measure of accomplishment?

    From your source:

    Smaller state governments, fewer teachers and more federal workers. Yep, that's a record Obama should be running on.
    What you think I was going to not wants facts, no matter who they favored??

    But that's what you said you wanted,a smaller government! Still not happy huh? Okay lets shrink it some more. Let me know when it's the right size.
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    #118

    Aug 4, 2012, 07:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    What you think I was going to not wants facts, no matter who they favored???

    But thats what you said you wanted,a smaller government! Still not happy huh? Okay lets shrink it some more. Let me know when its the right size.
    You tell me when Obama shrinks the size and scope of the federal government.
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    #119

    Aug 4, 2012, 07:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Refer me to where you denounced the rumors of Obama's birth certificate. I'll wait.

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    Just this once. For starters...

    Here
    Here
    Here
    Here
    Here

    And at least twice in this thread.

    Here
    Here

    Never question me on it again, please.

    And by the way, you should be reminded AGAIN it was Hillary supporters that started the birther nonsense, not conservatives.

    Your turn.
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    #120

    Aug 4, 2012, 04:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Apparently you didn't read the first quote. It all makes perfect sense, no lie necessary.

    Steve, what ever you have here it is not good. You are making out that Addams supports the loss of personal achievement and that the individual should be content to realize his activity within the many.

    If you provided the whole quote and not just a small part of it you would realized that Addams is not actually arguing for this position.

    Here is the full quote:

    When the entire moral energy of the individual goes into the cultivation of personal integrity, we all know how unlovely the result may become, the character is upright, of course, but too coated over with the result of its own endeavor to. In this effort toward higher morality in our social relations, we must demand that the individual shall be willing to lose the sense of personal achievement, and shall be content to realize his activity in connection with the activity of the many.

    It was the role of women partaking in charity work during this time, to develop the moral character of the poor. What Addams is saying is that this effort is resulting in an opposite outcome. Rather than developing individualism it is actually developing the wrong type of individualism. [edit]

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