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Kc22860 · Jul 18, 2012, 05:00 AM

80 days have passed and the worker showed up at our home unannounced while we were at school. We have heard nothing in regards to case and the courts in June has lifted all orders and my ex testified he believed the baby was safe and placed him back in our care. Can workers show up after 60 days unannounced? And what are the likelihood of the case turning up unfounded?

excon · Jul 18, 2012, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by Kc22860

And what are the likelihood of the case turning up unfounded?

Hello Kc:

Well, of course, we have NO idea whether you hurt your baby or not. If you did, I HOPE they take your baby away from you. If you didn't, I hope you have a lawyer to defend you against CPS.

excon

Kc22860 · Jul 18, 2012, 05:13 AM

No we didn't thank you. My sons father is a jealous maniac and accused my fiancé of abusing ME after a sporting accident when I damaged my face. Courts saw there were no markings on his hands and that we were sincere and my sons father rescinded all accusations and we have been back home for over a month. Court is over. CPS has not come when they said they would, will not answer my calls and I just wanted to know my rights passed 60 days when case is closed.

Kc22860 · Jul 18, 2012, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by Kc22860

No we didn't thank you. My sons father is a jealous maniac and accused my fiancé of abusing ME after a sporting accident when I damaged my face. Courts saw there were no markings on his hands and that we were sincere and my sons father rescinded all accusations and we have been back home for over a month. Court is over. CPS has not come when they said they would, will not answer my calls and I just wanted to know my rights passed 60 days when case is closed.

My son also told the caseworker no one hurt me and exclaimed he wanted to go home several times.

ScottGem · Jul 18, 2012, 05:16 AM

Are you sure the case was closed?

Yes CPS could show up, of course you could have refused entry stating the case has been closed.

Kc22860 · Jul 18, 2012, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by ScottGem

Are you sure the case was closed?

Yes CPS could show up, of course you could have refused entry stating the case has been closed.

I was under the impression that a case is closed after 60 days. Courts told me that and that's what my paperwork says. They must come to an answer on the investigation. Since I have not heard anything, I was wondering the likelihood of it being unfounded or if it's even legal to stop by. The worker has mismanaged this case a great deal since day 1. Not cooperating with the courts and the like. Just wondering what my rights are.

ScottGem · Jul 18, 2012, 05:25 AM

Your rights were to refuse entry on the grounds that the case was closed.

excon · Jul 18, 2012, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by Kc22860

I just wanted to know my rights passed 60 days when case is closed.

Hello again, Kc:

I'll take it even further than my friend, Scott.. Even IF the present case was still open, you do not have to let ANY law enforcement officer (and that's what CPS is) IN your house without a warrant. You're also not required to speak with them - EVER, period, end of story...

excon

Kc22860 · Jul 18, 2012, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Kc:

I'll take it even further than my friend, Scott.. Even IF the present case was still open, you do not have to let ANY law enforcement officer (and that's what CPS is) IN your house without a warrant. You're also not required to speak with them - EVER, period, end of story...

excon

I am aware of that. We have always cooperated because we have nothing to hide. I was just wondering if this has happened to anyone before!

excon · Jul 18, 2012, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by Kc22860

I am aware of that. We have always cooperated because we have nothing to hide. I was just wondering if this has happened to anyone before!

Hello Kc:

You didn't ask that. You asked what your rights were. Then you said you KNOW what your rights are, but don't care because you have nothing to hide. Now you wonder whether CPS has ever acted like a POLICE force before... Really?? You think you're the first??

What's REALLY GOING ON HERE?? What do you REALLY want to know?

excon

Kc22860 · Jul 18, 2012, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello Kc:

You didn't ask that. You asked what your rights were. Then you said you KNOW what your rights are, but don't care because you have nothing to hide. Now you wonder whether CPS has ever acted like a POLICE force before... Really??? You think you're the first???

What's REALLY GOING ON HERE???? What do you REALLY want to know?

excon

Wanted to know if it's common practice for them to dothat and if it's legal for them to just show up after the case is supposed to be closed. It is very nerve wracking having false allegations made against you and not knowing the outcome of the decision.

Kc22860 · Jul 18, 2012, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by Kc22860

Wanted to know if it's common practice for them to dothat and if it's legal for them to just show up after the case is supposed to be closed. It is very nerve wracking having false allegations made against you and not knowing the outcome of the decision.

And I know I'm not the first. Don't get hostile with me because I don't understand why they would come.

excon · Jul 18, 2012, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Kc22860

And I know I'm not the first. Don't get hostile with me because I don't understand why they would come.

Hello again, K:

I'm not hostile. I'm just not all warm and fuzzy.

excon

Kc22860 · Jul 18, 2012, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, K:

I'm not hostile. I'm just not all warm and fuzzy.

excon

I'm sorry for presuming, I'm just confused and looking for some sort of guidance. I don't know how they work.
I thought after 60 days and not hearing a word weeks after would signal the case was unfounded and there's be no need for further visits unless they were covering themselves because they failed to show up at the end of the investigation as they said. Set an appointment and never showed.

excon · Jul 18, 2012, 07:35 AM

Hello again, K:

I don't know ANYTHING about this 60 day thing... Didn't some clerk at the courthouse tell you that?? That ISN'T where I'd get my legal advice.

If the cops (CPS) thinks there's something going on, they'll come, and they'll come, and they'll come again.. Frankly, I'm happy they do. I don't like child abusers. But, I also don't like overzealous cops.

They're COPS. They're LOOKING for crime. If they find NONE, they won't file charges. Will they TELL you they found none? NO. The only way you'll find out is if they NEVER file charges against you.

excon

Kc22860 · Jul 18, 2012, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, K:

I dunno ANYTHING about this 60 day thing... Didn't some clerk at the courthouse tell you that??? That ISN'T where I'd get my legal advice.

If the cops (CPS) thinks there's something going on, they'll come, and they'll come, and they'll come again.. Frankly, I'm happy they do. I don't like child abusers. But, I also don't like overzealous cops.

They're COPS. They're LOOKING for crime. If they find NONE, they won't file charges. Will they TELL you they found none? NO. The only way you'll find out is if they NEVER file charges against you.

excon

Paperworksays they have 60 days to complete the investigation. It's far past that. They have to have a decision unfounded or indicated. Just wondering if anyone has experienced an unfounded case where they came back after the investigation should have been closed. I also assumed (since it was so mishandled and neglected by the workers) that this case just wasn't serious to them because the claims were so far fetched. I hate child abusers as much as the next, and I also dislike over zealous social workers from CPS. Just wanted to know if anyone had gone through something similar. Thank you so much for your help!

excon · Jul 18, 2012, 07:52 AM

Hello again, K:

You want to know if they CAN come back.. I want to know if they DID come back, and what happened when they did.

excon

Kc22860 · Jul 18, 2012, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, K:

You wanna know if they CAN come back.. I wanna know if they DID come back, and what happened when they did.

excon

They came back. We weren't home. Left a card. No phone call like usual. I called. Left messages. No word back.

excon · Jul 18, 2012, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Kc22860

They came back. We weren't home. Left a card. No phone call like usual. I called. Left messages. No word back.

Hello again, K:

IF they're BOUND by the 60 day limit, then they probably DID close the old investigation.. But, there's nothing stopping them from opening a new one.. If they stopped by, they want to CATCH you doing something. They're not going to call you back.

excon