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odinn7 · Jun 28, 2012, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by LadySam

So, I am not the only one who noticed the worms being responsible for oh--whatever?

That explains a lot. I have been having a rough day, do you think it's worms?

Alty · Jun 28, 2012, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Judy was offended from the start - no one dragged me anywhere.

The moon must be full.

I don't know if it's the moon, summer vacation, or just idiocy. Either way, we seem to be getting hit from all sides.

Thanks Judy. Not only for backing me up, but for... well, for being you! I guess you don't need thanks for that. You are who you are, and I'm grateful for that. Even when we don't agree. :)

odinn7 · Jun 28, 2012, 06:53 PM

I am sorry Sad puppy. I did not mean to disrespect you or your question and what you've been through.

LadySam · Jun 28, 2012, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by odinn7

That explains a lot. I have been having a rough day, do you think it's worms?

Most assuredly, it has to be the worms. You better get that taken care of.

Likewise Sadpuppy no disrespect intended.

Alty · Jun 28, 2012, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by odinn7

That explains a lot. I have been having a rough day, do you think it's worms?

Yup, it's worms. Try peppermint tea, and chamomile. You'll be right as rain in seconds. But don't go to your doctor! I am right, because I once drove a truck, have a dog, and I'm human, so I know what I'm talking about! ;)

Alty · Jun 28, 2012, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by odinn7

I am sorry Sad puppy. I did not mean to disrespect you or your question and what you've been through.

Yikes! That's not your fault. That would be mine.

Reading Toot's posts, seeing the misinformation he/she has posted, has lead to this.

I hijacked yet another thread. It's never my intention to do so.

Please Sad puppy, come back, post to us. Ignore the fact that I've lead all these good people on a rampage, but I do urge you to ignore Toot's posts. There is no valid info there.

MelanieRay · Jun 29, 2012, 05:11 AM

If it was parvo...
No one told me to use anything but bleach. My husband had a sprayer for yard stuff and we loaded that up with bleachy water and sprayed down the house. It let off a nice misty spray. I had my pup only 2 nights and a day before she went to the vet for not acting right so I didn't have to wander the yard wondering who's poop was who's but when she perked up and started going outside I had my handy sprayer out following her after she did start going outside. Now I have little brown grass spots but, maybe it will grow back soon. All of this is for a new puppy that we won't get but, maybe in a few years someone will buy this place and want a puppy of there own. Ive read that this virus can last that long.
I think it's the chlorine that kills it so not just any bleach will do. It has to be the stuff that burns your eyes and nose from just smelling it

Aurora_Bell · Jun 29, 2012, 06:17 AM

Bleach is the only thing that will kill parvo. It can live inf avorable soil/conditions for up to a year. Remember that this virus has been around since the 1970's, is very hard to disinfect away, and is shed in extremely large numbers by infected dogs. This means that there is virus everywhere: on every carpet, on every floor, in every yard and park. Virus is shed in the stool for the first two weeks or less after the initial infection but only a tiny portion of infected stool (which could be months old depending on the environmental temperature and humidity) is needed to infect a non-immune dog. Either get rid of the items or bleach, only option, I suggest getting rid. You may have to spend more money on buying new stuff, but the sake of your dogs life, it's worth it.
Parvo from Kitties... hmm interesting news. Ducks are the biggest parvo carriers, that's why if you have an unvaccinated pup NEVER take him to publick ponds or parks.

JudyKayTee · Jun 29, 2012, 06:33 AM

Ducks? I've never heard that! Live and learn every day...

Aside from the brief comic relief in the middle this is such a sad thread.

And I think the people who did post, who were worried and sad, saw the way the thread was going and hopefully are grateful that the person who was posting VERY wrong, VERY dangerous "info" was stopped.

My specific concern with Parvo was when I took my puppy for his shots and was told they had diagnosed Parvo that morning in that office - that was weeks ago and he's fine but I wonder what the Vet doess in that situation.

Ducks? You know more about this than I do but what is the link/similarity between ducks and dogs that allows the virus to thrive?

Aurora_Bell · Jun 29, 2012, 06:53 AM

It's really not just ducks, but any flying bird. As you know it can stay in soil up to one year, birds walk in the soil fly to various watering holes, yards, parks etc and contaminate that area. The parvo doesn't effect the ducks allowing it to be transferred to lots of places. There is an actual goose strain of parvo, but really only harmful to the geese. They say ducks are the highest carrier as they take the longest flights, contaminating a wider area, you never really see one duck, it's a flock, which usually means they step in the same soil and the vicious cycle continues.

Alty · Jun 29, 2012, 06:57 AM

My specific concern with Parvo was when I took my puppy for his shots and was told they had diagnosed Parvo that morning in that office - that was weeks ago and he's fine but I wonder what the Vet doess in that situation.

The great thing about a vet clinic is that all the surfaces are easily cleaned. I know that in our clinic they wash the examination room with bleach after each patient.

I would assume that if a case of parvo came in, they'd clean the entire office with bleach before allowing any puppies that haven't had their full set of shots to come in. But that's just a guess. I don't know for sure.

Alty · Jun 29, 2012, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell

It's really not just ducks, but any flying bird. As you know it can stay in soil up to one year, birds walk in the soil fly to various watering holes, yards, parks etc and contaminate that area. The parvo doesn't effect the ducks allowing it to be transferred to lots of places. There is an actual goose strain of parvo, but really only harmful to the geese. They say ducks are the highest carrier as they take the longest flights, contaminating a wider area, you never really see one duck, it's a flock, which usually means they step in the same soil and the vicious cycle continues.

Great info. I knew that birds were a big contributor to the spread of parvo, but I didn't realize that ducks and geese where the major ones. Makes sense though.

Aurora_Bell · Jun 29, 2012, 06:58 AM

At our clinic, we have to call a head if we suspect parvo.

Wondergirl · Jun 29, 2012, 06:59 AM

Is that why my vet clinic is divided into cat treatment rooms and dog treatment rooms, so the dog rooms can get the bleach treatment (although they might do the same for the cat rooms as a matter of sanitation)?

Alty · Jun 29, 2012, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Is that why my vet clinic is divided into cat treatment rooms and dog treatment rooms, so the dog rooms can get the bleach treatment (although they might do the same for the cat rooms as a matter of sanitation)?

That may be one reason, but I think the main reason that the cat section is separate is to not distress the animals when they come in. It's bad enough being at the vet, but for a cat to be at the vet and smell nothing but dogs, and see nothing but dogs, is just adding unnecessary stress.

LadySam · Jun 29, 2012, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by Alty

That may be one reason, but I think the main reason that the cat section is separate is to not distress the animals when they come in. It's bad enough being at the vet, but for a cat to be at the vet and smell nothing but dogs, and see nothing but dogs, is just adding unnecessary stress.

That could very well be the case, we have a separate room for cats that have to stay at the clinic for whatever reason. They are much calmer and satisfied when they are not exposed to the noise of barking dogs.

LadySam · Jun 29, 2012, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by Alty

The great thing about a vet clinic is that all the surfaces are easily cleaned. I know that in our clinic they wash the examination room with bleach after each patient.

I would assume that if a case of parvo came in, they'd clean the entire office with bleach before allowing any puppies that haven't had their full set of shots to come in. But that's just a guess. I don't know for sure.

In my experience clinic staff are pretty anal about disinfecting between pets and especially when there has been a suspect of something very contagious like parvo.
Along with the clinic I work for I helped the owner of my clinic in his multiple clinics as a fill in for about a year. I found that to be the case in all of them.
So I would think that when staff is aware they are extra diligent.

Wondergirl · Jun 29, 2012, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by Alty

I think the main reason that the cat section is separate is to not distress the animals when they come in. It's bad enough being at the vet, but for a cat to be at the vet and smell nothing but dogs, and see nothing but dogs, is just adding unnecessary stress.

Anxious, growling, slathering, wild-eyed dogs in a vet waiting room add to my stress too. :)