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May 31, 2012, 03:58 PM
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What are the signs when a parvo puppy needs to be put down, and is parvo painful
I Just had to put down our new boxer puppy and we think he either had Parvo or hook worms. We are devastated and are looking into getting a new baby but we want to do it safely. I am trying to figure out which one it was. Before we put him down he was crying like he was in terrible pain and it was so heart breaking. Is this the behavior of a baby puppy dying of parvo? Hook worms? Does anybody know? Please help thanks!
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May 31, 2012, 04:11 PM
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Yes, painful, here is an excerpt from a parvo site on Google.
C - This form of the disease is much less common than the intestinal form due to widespread vaccination. Severe inflammation and necrosis (cell death), of the heart muscle causes breathing difficulty and death in very young (less than 8 weeks of age) puppies. Older dogs that survive this form have scarring in the heart muscle. This means a severe heart attack, and the little thing would have extreme pain in the chest.
Parvo means you have insure you have nothing around your house, absolutely nothing that belongs to the pup that died from parvo.
Edit: parvo and hookworms, one in the same. They go inside the bloodstream to the heart.
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May 31, 2012, 04:14 PM
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Do you understand about all the cleaning and disinfecting you will have to do inside AND outside?
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May 31, 2012, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wondergirl
do you understand about all the cleaning and disinfecting you will have to do inside and outside?
exactly no new pups until house is disinfected with bleach and Yard is devoid of feces from the other dog.
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May 31, 2012, 04:26 PM
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Yes I am aware of bleaching amd.cleaning... I just got him a new cage... Get rid of that? Or can I bleach it... Some.sites say wait a month after you clean some say 6 months. I live in an apt so what about the outside
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May 31, 2012, 04:31 PM
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I would not consider getting a puppy at all, you should get a dog that has already had it's full set of vaccines, to lesson the chance that he contracts parvo if that what was wrong with your other pup.
And yes you will still need to disinfect, I'll post a link for you.
But may I ask please, why you put your dog down without an answer as to what was wrong with him?
Parvo is treatable not always successfully, hookworms are treatable with greater success.
Did your vet have no idea what was wrong?
And why so quick to euthanize and not try to save him if there was a chance for survival?
But you don't even know what was wrong with him? Why not?
Was it a financial issue, if so you should think long and hard before getting another pet.
Shelter Medicine : Canine Parvovirus : ASPCA Professional
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May 31, 2012, 04:42 PM
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Lady Sam... My vet treats for parvo regardless if they have it or not BC when I got the dog he was already VERY SICK. We treated him for.parvo and worms(which I already knew he had) my vet and I were talking.the.entire time and we did EVERYTHING we could have done to save this dogs life. I didn't just run to the vet and we decided.to put.h down. Like I asked in the original question... If you took the time to read it... He was in GREAT PAIN! So no need to be nasty. I am a great pet owner and I am asking for positive advice from POSITIVE PEOPLE like the first two helpful people. To make sure this doesn't happen again. THANKS!
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Cats Expert
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May 31, 2012, 04:55 PM
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I'm not being nasty, but if you will reread your own post then you should see what I saw, and I also gave you the best advice that I can, no puppies, fully vaccinated dogs and gave a very helpful website.
If you were working that closely with your vet then your vet should have had an idea about why he needed to be euthanized.
And should have been able to tell you that hookworms are pretty well treatable, in 13 years I've only seen 1 death that was the result of a sever hookworm anemia. Only 1, that doesn't mean it can't happen again. But I'll put my money on the parvo if those are my 2 choices.
And rather than assume that I am a negative or nasty person perhaps you should read around, I am neither.
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Jun 26, 2012, 10:48 PM
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So very sorry to hear you an your baby had to go through that, I feel your pain. Where I live there is a dog abuser, killer an I only wish I could catch him. I will not tell you what this person has done to my dogs. So lets get on with trying to help you. My vet told me that Lysol and Pinesol will both kill the Parvo Virsus, which acutally comes from felines. Now don't go getting rid of your kittys if you have some. Would suggest keeping them indoors though. The first things I personally would look for is over sleeping, my vet once told me "puppies have two speeds high an off" , I laughed but he was right. If your doggy is not drinking water after you put fresh down that is your second sign. I have studied since 1991 about herbs, minerals an vitamins an would highly suggest using a natural dewormer such as Diatomaceous Earth or D. E. for short, you can get it from LuminoHome
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Pets Expert
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Jun 26, 2012, 11:08 PM
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Parvo can live in cold weather, hot weather, any conditions, it can live in the soil for up to a year There is only one household product that kills parvo, and that's bleach.
The virus needs to be treated properly to ensure that you've gotten rid of it. Just picking up the feces in the yard isn't enough. To ensure that it's gone you will have to bleach inside and out. It will kill your grass, but that's the only way to make sure the virus is gone. Even then, there's still a risk, especially if you missed something.
Parvo is very contagious. It transmitted through dog feces, so you can imagine that a pup that hasn't been vaccinated is at great risk. If you go for a walk, step in dog feces that is contaminated with parvo, and then go home, you're bringing the virus with you. Insects, birds and rats can also transmit this disease, but cats have not been shown to be a risk, that is not something you need to worry about.
I would highly recommend that you get an older dog, just to avoid the chances of a new puppy getting parvo. Unless your very diligent about cleaning your home, bleaching everything, any puppy that hasn't been fully vaccinated will be at risk of parvo.
I'm sorry to hear about your loss and wish you the best of luck.
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Jun 28, 2012, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tootaloo699
So very sorry to hear you an your baby had to go through that, I feel your pain. Where I live there is a dog abuser, killer an I only wish I could catch him. I will not tell you what this person has done to my dogs. So lets get on with trying to help you. My vet told me that Lysol and Pinesol will both kill the Parvo Virsus, which acutally comes from felines. Now don't go getting rid of your kittys if you have some. Would suggest keeping them indoors though. The first things I personally would look for is over sleeping, my vet once told me "puppies have two speeds high an off" , I laughed but he was right. If your doggy is not drinking water after you put fresh down that is your second sign. I have studied since 1991 about herbs, minerals an vitamins an would highly suggest using a natural dewormer such as Diatomaceous Earth or D. E. for short, you can get it from LuminoHome
Hire a private investigator, get proof, go after the person legally. I wouldn't put up with it. Kittys? Doggys?
Your Vet said that doggies catch Parvo from kitties? Interesting "an" I'd like to know more about that. What reference materials did he/she give you?
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Pets Expert
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Jun 28, 2012, 05:12 PM
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Oops! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JudyKayTee again.
Why do I always have to spread the rep. Stop posting great posts and let me catch up a bit! ;)
Toot is wrong. Cats don't pass on parvo to dogs. The main culprit is infected feces, insects, especially flies, birds, etc. But not cats. In fact, cats aren't a threat at all.
I also love how every post on the dog forum is apparently worms, according to Toot. Worms are only one thing dogs are infected with. One treatable thing. Not everything is worms Toot. :(
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Uber Member
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Jun 28, 2012, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Alty
Oops! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JudyKayTee again.
Why do I always have to spread the rep. Stop posting great posts and let me catch up a bit! ;)
Toot is wrong. Cats don't pass on parvo to dogs. The main culprit is infected feces, insects, especially flies, birds, etc. But not cats. In fact, cats aren't a threat at all.
I also love how every post on the dog forum is apparently worms, according to Toot. Worms are only one thing dogs are infected with. One treatable thing. Not everything is worms Toot. :(
I hate to criticize you after giving you a greenie but the correct words are "doggy" and "kitty." Please - if you are going to be an Expert get the lingo straight.
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Cats Expert
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Jun 28, 2012, 06:15 PM
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So, I am not the only one who noticed the worms being responsible for oh--whatever?
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Uber Member
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Jun 28, 2012, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LadySam
So, I am not the only one who noticed the worms being responsible for oh--whatever?
Stock up on marshmallow extract.
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Pets Expert
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Jun 28, 2012, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LadySam
So, I am not the only one who noticed the worms being responsible for oh--whatever?
Sam, you're not the only one by far.
I urge you to read his/her other posts, the ones that are still on the site (many have been deleted).
This person should not be offering advice period. That's my opinion. He/she has yet to be right on any post he/she has written.
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Pets Expert
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Jun 28, 2012, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
Stock up on marshmallow extract.
And peppermint tea, lysol (apparently lysol kills parvo, according to Toot's vet), and many other herbs, with links on where to buy them.
This person's posts are a huge concern.
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Cats Expert
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Jun 28, 2012, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Alty
And peppermint tea, lysol (apparently lysol kills parvo, according to Toot's vet), and many other herbs, with links on where to buy them.
This person's posts are a huge concern.
I was just about to address the Lysol post when Altys response hit my screen so I left it alone.
I could not however leave one of the worms one alone. Got my dander up!
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Pets Expert
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Jun 28, 2012, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LadySam
i was just about to address the Lysol post when Altys response hit my screen so I left it alone.
I could not however leave one of the worms one alone. Got my dander up!
If you want your dander to hit the roof, read Toot's other posts.
I would suggest a cup of tea, a nice relaxing song, or a soothing movie instead. I already feel bad that I dragged Judy into this. :(
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Uber Member
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Jun 28, 2012, 06:49 PM
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Judy was offended from the start - no one dragged me anywhere.
The moon must be full.
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