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tomder55 · Nov 3, 2011, 08:45 AM

Not at all. I'm the 1st one to say let the market decide winners and losers and would be more than willing to end oil company subsidies yesterday.
You however are constantly calling for money in politics . But you want it to be taxpayer's money . You want the taxpayer to pay for campaigns (public financing) . You want the taxpayer to fund "wacked" projects like high speed rail . You want the government to invest in all types of things on the hope that at some future day it will pay off .

excon · Nov 3, 2011, 09:47 AM

Hello again, tom:

I want those things, NOT because they're GOOD places to spend money, but to REALIGN the playing field AFTER the politicians have been bought.

I'm a BELIEVER is a free marketplace.. But, when the FIRST businessman got a favor, it was the FIRST time the government needed to COUNTER it. If he NEVER got a favor, then there would be nothing to counter, and our markets WOULD be free.

Having said that, there ARE places in the economy where it IS appropriate for the government to spend. That would be where the commons are involved. Things like roads, and the water supply should be owned by EVERYBODY.. The defense of our land, and maintenance of our wilderness should not be contracted out.

If there were a truly free market place here, there would already BE bullet trains, and the government wouldn't have had anything to do with it.

excon

tomder55 · Nov 3, 2011, 11:09 AM

If there were a truly free market place here, there would already BE bullet trains, and the government wouldn't have had anything to do with it.

No there wouldn't because there is no sufficient demand. Everyone touts the Chinese building them even though their trains run empty and the primary reason for their investment is to bring troops to their frontier in Tibet .

No nation is more suited to bullet trains than Japan ;and yet... only the Tokyo -Osaka line runs at anything close to a profit. Their rail system has been a drain on the government since 1964.

Not only that ;but high speed rail in Japan and Europe has done nothing to change commuting habits... oh wait... in Japan FEWER passagers use rail than before .

The nation would get better bang for the buck with subsidizing freight rail .

excon · Nov 3, 2011, 11:17 AM

Hello again, tom:

You miss my point.. I'm not a believer in bullet trains, per se.. I'm a believer in the FREE marketplace delivering bullet trains, if and when they're wanted and needed.

excon

tomder55 · Nov 3, 2011, 03:16 PM

Then we agree... end the subsidies to bullet trains and phony green technology. Another subsidized green energy company went belly up .

Second Energy Department-backed company goes bankrupt - The Hill's E2-Wire

More taxpayer money wasted.

paraclete · Nov 3, 2011, 05:20 PM

I wonder what herman's plan is now he has again been accused of being a naughty boy

tomder55 · Nov 3, 2011, 07:13 PM

Not to worry . Bubba Clintoon set the bar so low an ant could hurdle it.
This high tech lynching of Cain is the worse of American journalism . As of now there is nothing but unsubtantiated rumors . He was in an executive position for years . If what is being said of him were true there would be many women from his various places of leadership that would've come forward long before now.

Cains problem is that he doesn't have a bunch of slug advisors like James Carville to go on the TV talk show circuit and attack the women. He doesn't have a staff to handle "bimbo eruptions". He doesn't have a wife claiming a "vast left wing conspiracy " is attacking him.

Wondergirl · Nov 3, 2011, 07:16 PM

Why can't Cain keep his stories straight?

tomder55 · Nov 3, 2011, 07:27 PM

Why does he have to reply at all ? Wasn't there a confidentiality agreement ? Who violated it ?
Why is he being attacked ? Why was Edwards allowed to run a whole campaign with the press covering up an affair while his wife battled cancer ? Why did it take the National Enquirer to reveal his love child ?

Joel P. Bennett the women's lawyer said a statement would be released by him but the women won't go public ? What does that mean ?

But you hit on an important point . The question is not what Cain did... it's how he responds to unsubstantiated smears by unnamed sources. That's really politics at it's lowest form.

talaniman · Nov 3, 2011, 07:29 PM

Well he could handle it better than he does the foreign policy questions.

excon · Nov 3, 2011, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

As of now there is nothing but unsubtantiated rumors .

Hello tom:

He remembered a settlement.. Looks substantiated to me.. There were TWO payoffs. Looks substantiated to me. He remembers the incidents.. Looks substantiated to me.

excon

talaniman · Nov 3, 2011, 08:46 PM

$70,000, that's a nice size rumor.

tomder55 · Nov 4, 2011, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Well he could handle it better than he does the foreign policy questions.

That is the real issue to consider. His responses to foreign policy questions are lame .

Like I said... short rape (Clinton: "better put some ice on that lip") I see nothing Cain might've done that disqualifies him.
Executives in this country are very vulnerable to such charges ;and settlements are a matter of convenience . One cannot infer guilt because the lawyers get together at the bar and hatch out a deal to make the charges go away. That's why confidentiality terms are part of the deal.

But this is indictment by innuendo ;Guilty until proven innocent. Another attempt to take down a conservative black man who has strayed from the Washington DC plantation.

NeedKarma · Nov 4, 2011, 03:37 AM

Sounds an awful lot like what the conservatives did to Obama, but that's all forgotten now.

tomder55 · Nov 4, 2011, 04:40 AM

I don't recall any sexual harassment charges against Obama.

NeedKarma · Nov 4, 2011, 05:54 AM

Probably because he isn't even an American citizen.

tomder55 · Nov 4, 2011, 05:57 AM

I don't know about anyone else ,but I never took that seriously and frequently stated why they were wrong.

It remains to be seen if there is any basis to these charges against Cain.

smoothy · Nov 4, 2011, 08:03 PM

It's the lynching of a black man... by cowards that don't even have the courage to show their faces...

I'd love to see these spineless sluts sued for slander and defamation... Its every persons right to face their accusers... if the accusers are too cowardly to show their faces and be named publicly... they should keep their mouths shut.

This is likely all about gold diggers that had their advances refused by a man that didn't want anything to do with them. SO they dreamed up false charges.

After all, they could open their mouths... they already breached their confidentiality agreement... and there is no proof that this ISN'T exactly what happened

excon · Nov 4, 2011, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

I'd love to see these spineless sluts sued for slander and defamation....Its every persons right to face their accusers...

Hello again, smoothy:

Dude, you got it backwards.. The women are the ones who SUED Cain. HE'S the one who caved and paid them so he didn't have to face his accusers.. That's what the settlement/agreement is about. He ran away from it...

excon

smoothy · Nov 4, 2011, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

Dude, you got it backwards.. The women are the ones who SUED Cain. HE'S the one who caved and paid them so he didn't have to face his accusers.. That's what the settlement/agreement is about. He ran away from it...

excon

Really.. got a court docket where a trial actually took place and a verdict was issued? When you are sued... its heard by a judge and a ruling is made...

But oh... there wasn't any was there... since real cases get would get 6 to 7 digit awards... not a few months pay worth if they had any merit.

What never heard of scorned women dreaming things up before? Talk to any divorced guy. It happens on the west coast at least as much as it happens on the east... and everywhere in between.

Cases that don't have merit the people take a few bucks to just go away, because they know they won't win in court. These were just a few bucks... and at least one was brought up a month AFTER Caine had already left that job... seem rather odd the timing on that?