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    #41

    Mar 23, 2011, 05:50 AM
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    You did not have the time to read it before your baseless claim.
    Hello again, tom:

    It's true, I don't follow her hoping that she'll all of a sudden make sense... Oh, that girl can give a speech... She can rile up a crowd... But, that doesn't mean she knows anything - she doesn't.

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    #42

    Mar 23, 2011, 06:15 AM

    Was Maher referring to 'The War Against Terrorists' ?
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    #43

    Mar 23, 2011, 06:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Was Maher referring to 'The War Against Terrorists' ?
    Ba dum bump. :D
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    #44

    Apr 19, 2011, 10:40 AM
    Ex, this girl can make sense, she's even a conservative atheist, but the Goracle's new Current TV chief thinks S.E. Cupp should have never been born. Last week Olby tweeted:

    On so many levels she's a perfect demonstration of the necessity of the work Planned Parenthood does


    When Cupp objected to the idea he thinkd her parents should have aborted her he continued:

    she's an idiot - and her gender is irrelevant to that truth. Like Palin.


    Good to know Olby is on board with Obama's "new era of civility," especially when it comes to women. I hope Al Gore is proud of his new hire.
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    #45

    Apr 19, 2011, 10:53 AM

    Hello again, Steve:

    Yeah, the goricle and his crew... What bastards..

    Didja catch Hannity last night? He looked his guest in the eye, and with a straight face, asked her what is causing all those tornado's? She didn't know either?? They both threw up their hands and looked dumbfounded.

    I wonder why he didn't ask the 600 lb gorilla sitting in the room... Bwa, ha ha ha.

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    #46

    Apr 19, 2011, 11:17 AM

    S.E. CUPP replies :

    I want to take a moment to comment on the incident that occurred last week. In case you were all busy doing other things, and missed it (wish I could say the same) Current TV news director Keith Olbermann took to Twitter on Thursday to, well, wish me unborn. Yes, seriously. I was, in all honesty, prepared to let this dumb story carry on in the gutter without any help from me, but unfortunately Keith is still prattling on about it, the media is still addressed it, and I feel as though I have an obligation to my fans, my employer, and most importantly, my parents to address it myself, here, on my own show. So here goes.

    To briefly recap, on Wednesday of last week I was invited on the Joy Behar Show on CNN HLN, where Joy, Jerry Springer and I had a civilized, albeit pointed discussion about Planned Parenthood. I said that I didn’t think I should have to fund with my tax dollars an organization that I fundamentally disagree with, as someone who is pro-life. The conversation was robust but at times conciliatory. And I think we all left feeling like we had a good debate on a very serious issue.

    The next day I took off for Ohio to give a speech at Miami University, and later that afternoon someone alerted me to the following post by Olbermann on Twitter:

    “On so many levels she’s a perfect demonstration of the necessity of the work Planned Parenthood does.”

    Later in the day, when pressed by outraged readers, he kind of clarified, writing:

    “I never mentioned abortion. I said her parents could have used counseling by PP rather than get the results they did.”

    And then:

    “I insinuated her parents would’ve helped the earth had they consulted PP for birth control”

    And then:

    “I didn’t say she should have been aborted. I said her parents could’ve used PP to learn how not to raise a moron.”

    If you’re confused, that’s probably because backpeddling can be incredibly disorienting. I don’t know if his attempts at clarifying hurt his cause or help him, but over the weekend he has continued to dig himself deeper, bizarrely accusing me of lying but refusing to say about what.

    The good folks at Mediaite, National Review, FoxNews.com and dozens of other outlets have pointed out that nothing I said in the Joy Behar interview was inaccurate or dishonest. And most people have also pointed out that Keith Olbermann’s nasty suggestion that I shouldn’t exist is, to put it mildly, hitting below the belt. I won’t waste my time and yours pointing out the flaws in his “arguments” or telling you what you already know – that wishing someone dead is a lousy way to make a point.

    But I do want to say a couple things.

    First, I’m Sorry.

    I’m sorry to my parents. I’m a pundit and a columnist and an author, and I choose to write and speak about controversial issues. For that, sometimes I am rewarded with death threats and hate mail. It’s part of the job, but you never get used to hearing that someone wants you dead. Nonetheless, this career was my choice.

    But my parents never asked to be challenged on their politics, and they especially never asked to be challenged on their personal decisions, decisions like whether they wanted to keep me or not. They are quite simply, the greatest people I know, so calling into question their character is something I’m not okay with.

    But rather than say something I would later regret in the heat of the moment, I allowed my mother to respond to Mr. Olbermann. It’s currently up on the Blaze, and it is better than anything I could write on the matter.

    Two, this is bigger than Mr. Olbermann (as most things are.) For many of us, on both sides of the aisle, abortion is a VERY serious and sensitive matter. We care deeply about right-to-life issues, and those of us who are fortunate enough to have a public platform through with to speak about them – either on the pro-life or pro-choice side – recognize that that mantle is a privilege and an honor, and should not be treated lightly or taken for granted. Abortion isn’t a punch line, nor is it a weapon. And if we’re going to have a meaningful conversation about it, well it CERTAINLY shouldn’t be within the crass and limiting confines of 140 characters. Twitter isn’t the best place to debate the value of life. And I’m sure Mr. Olbermann regrets not choosing his words more carefully.

    Finally, what now? While the media and the blogosphere debate the imprudence of Olbermann’s words, the voices that should be speaking out are strangely silent. So I’ll ask directly:

    Are you proud, Mr. Gore, of your new hire? Are you comfortable allowing Mr. Olbermann to represent your media venture? He’s the face of Current TV?

    Planned Parenthood: Keith Olbermann does you no favors speaking on your behalf. If your goal is to convince the country that abortion assistance isn’t the primary focus of your organization, well certainly seems like he’s unaware of that. Do you approve of Mr. Olbermann’s cheapening of the abortion issue?

    And NOW, the National Organization for Women: Where are you? I’m a woman. Women’s rights and in particular the abortion issue are huge parts of your national platform. Anything to say? Any fingers to wag? Any comment at all?

    I’m happy to debate women’s rights, and do so often and with alacrity. If anyone from Current TV, Planned Parenthood, or NOW wants to have a meaningful discussion about those issues, this chair is open. Come on in.

    Until then, I’m sure Keith Olbermann will be more than happy to fill the vacuum left by your deafening silence.
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    #47

    Apr 19, 2011, 11:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Yeah, the goricle and his crew... What bastards..

    Didja catch Hannity last night?? He looked his guest in the eye, and with a straight face, asked her what is causing all those tornado's? She didn't know either??? They both threw up their hands and looked dumbfounded.

    I wonder why he didn't ask the 600 lb gorilla sitting in the room... Bwa, ha ha ha.

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    I don't watch Hannity either. Was SE Cupp or Sarah Palin the 600 lb gorilla in the room? Otherwise I have no idea what this has to do with anything I posted.
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    #48

    Apr 19, 2011, 11:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Otherwise I have no idea what this has to do with anything I posted.
    Idiots on both sides say dumb things. I thought that was obvious. You only show one side of the story.
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    #49

    Apr 19, 2011, 11:42 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I don't watch Hannity either. Was SE Cupp or Sarah Palin the 600 lb gorilla in the room? Otherwise I have no idea what this has to do with anything I posted.
    Hello again, Steve:

    I thought we were talking about dumb things people on TV say. Guess not.

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    #50

    Apr 19, 2011, 01:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Idiots on both sides say dumb things. I thought that was obvious. You only show one side of the story.
    Sure looks like to me that both sides are represented, Olby made an a$$ of himself and Cupp responded, tom posted it up there. By all means, though, show us what idiotic thing she said that deserved the head of a TV network publicly wishing she had been aborted. Come on, put up or shut up.
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    #51

    Apr 19, 2011, 01:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    I thought we were talking about dumb things people on TV say. Guess not.

    excon
    No, this thread is about insensitivity - hatred toward is more like it - to women and the hypocrisy of the left on the issue.
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    #52

    Apr 19, 2011, 01:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    No, this thread is about insensitivity - hatred toward is more like it - to women and the hypocrisy of the left on the issue.
    I completely dispute the charaterization of what the 'left' believes.
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    #53

    Apr 19, 2011, 02:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I completely dispute the charaterization of what the 'left' believes.
    And I'm still waiting for you to put up or shut up on what idiotic thing Cupp said that deserved Olbermann publicly wishing she had been aborted. I've supported my case on liberal hypocrisy toward women, your turn.
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    #54

    Apr 19, 2011, 02:32 PM
    I answered you here: Ask Me Help Desk - View Single Post - NOW chief: some women are just whores
    Try to keep up.

    Thank goodness there's no conservative hypocrisy eh? LOL!
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    #55

    Apr 19, 2011, 03:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Try to keep up? Exactly, NK. That's the claim you made that I've twice now asked you to back up. What idiotic thing did Cupp say? Prove your claim.
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    #56

    Apr 19, 2011, 03:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    What idiotic thing did Cupp say? Prove your claim.
    I never claimed such a thing - you are lying through your teeth writing here that I did say that. I'm not surprised at this.
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    #57

    Apr 19, 2011, 04:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I never claimed such a thing - you are lying through your teeth writing here that I did say that. I'm not surprised at this.
    I'm not surprised that you're this clueless.

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