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Oct 26, 2010, 09:32 AM
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They were outright LIES! Big difference
The data dump is almost exclusively raw data after action reports . That means some guy using the toggle on the ground to pilot a drone watching a demonstration of Iraqi's supporting the clown who threw a pair of shoes at the President reports that the crowd dispersed peacefully.
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Oct 26, 2010, 11:22 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, smoothy:
Well, it isn't ALL that matters... What matters MORE is the bedrock values of our nation. When our leaders betray them, somebody has to tell.
excon
PS> I was in Vietnam.. They didn't have no stinkin drug tests then..
Well, then you don't have a clearance now... they go inactive after a period if not renewed.
I said that because you said you had one NOW... I know what they were doing as long as 25 years ago... up until now but not as far back as the early 70's, but as long as it is current and active you are at LEAST subject to random testing at any time. Be glad you weren't subject to annual Polygraphs.
Sorry, but the law is the law... someones misguided political ideology has no place in it. I hope they throw the book at everyone involved in this breach of National security.
You don't think I never saw something I might not agree with personally? Fact is I did but what I thought had no bearing on it. A job is a job, and the law is the law... there is no exemption saying "unless you believe otherwise."
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Oct 26, 2010, 03:59 PM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
You don't think I never saw something I might not agree with personally? Fact is I did but what I thought had no bearing on it. A job is a job, and the law is the law........there is no exemption saying "unless you believe otherwise."
Hello again, smoothy:
They came first for the Communists,
And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
And by that time no one was left to speak up.
Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)
excon
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Oct 26, 2010, 04:05 PM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, smoothy:
They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up.
Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)
excon
Funny how you can quote that and support the Democrat party that hates the Constitution and hates the Bill of Rights that get in their way in the same breath.
The law is the law... how do you think you became an excon? Seriously. Didn't learn anything from that? I mean besides "don't get caught".
The law is the law... classified materials are classified secret or higher for a very good reason (actually Confidentual is where it starts). Except in the Case of Obamas personal records he is afraid the public might see. THAT is one case where they SHOULD be made public... I say we start there.
Just because I think we should stage snipers along the border and shoot anyone sneaking across for sport, sell hunting licenses, you could pay for a fence with the proceeds... doesn't mean we actually can.
Or even Better... Target gang members for execution... put a bounty on their heads... dead or alive. See how that drops inner-city crime. Would cost far less lives of productive Americans or harm fewer people helping AMerica that being a traitor and giving classified documents to our enemies would.
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Oct 26, 2010, 04:28 PM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
Funny how you can quote that and support the Democrat party that hates the Constitution and hates the Bill of Rights that get in their way in the same breath.
Hello again, smoothy:
Every time you LOSE an argument, which is EVERY time, you start spouting slogans, bumper stickers, and talking points. That ain't going to do it.
excon
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Oct 26, 2010, 04:43 PM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, smoothy:
Every time you LOSE an argument, which is EVERY time, you start spouting slogans, bumper stickers, and talking points. That ain't gonna do it.
excon
Really, you mean just like you do?
The law isn't a talking point... oh it might be for Democrats that don't believe it applies to them. Just to the rest of the "unwashed masses" that get in their Illuminati way who aren't as "enlightened" as they themselves are.
Treason is still treason... and people who commit it should be shot by firing squad. Not called heroes by the left.
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Nov 5, 2010, 02:40 PM
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This is rich, the leaker that admits he's putting people in danger by his leaks is not happy that the Swedes leaked rape accusations against him.
More than two and a half months after Swedish authorities leaked rape accusations against Wikileaks founder Julian Assange no charges have been filed and the cyberhacker plans to file a lawsuit against prosecutors.
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Nov 5, 2010, 02:57 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
This is rich, the leaker that admits he's putting people in danger by his leaks is not happy that the Swedes leaked rape accusations against him.
Poor Baby... welcome to the real world. He thought he was special or something? He should have aligned himself with Obama, the press would have left him alone. And the Norwegions would have given HIM a Nobel prize too.
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Nov 5, 2010, 03:31 PM
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He's just angry the Swedes won't grant him asylum.
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Nov 29, 2010, 07:11 AM
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I think the diplomatic leaks yesterday will undermine diplomatic cooperation around the world and instead of preventing wars ,as the Assange clown claims to desire ;will undermine the very process that prevents them.
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Nov 29, 2010, 07:45 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
... is not happy that the Swedes leaked rape accusations against him.
He's not happy because he was falsely accused of rape. Wouldn't that make you unhappy as well?
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Nov 29, 2010, 07:53 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
He's not happy because he was falsely accused of rape. Wouldn't that make you unhappy as well?
If that's the case why is there an international warrant against him by the Swedish government related to the rape... a warrant that the Swedish courts have upheld .
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Nov 29, 2010, 07:56 AM
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From the article:
Questions have been raised about the background of the two women involved and the association of at least one of them with a U.S.-backed right-wing organization
And
Despite the "on-going" investigation, Assange was allowed to leave Sweden. In most Western nations a person under investigation for rape would have his/her passport confiscated and would be ordered to remain available to police.
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Nov 29, 2010, 07:57 AM
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Hello:
What he does with his wee wee, has NOTHING to do with what he does with his Mac.
excon
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Nov 29, 2010, 07:59 AM
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And this is a complete diversion from the fact that he should hang from a rope for espionage...
What I want to know is why the US doesn't have a warrant out for him ?
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Nov 29, 2010, 08:07 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
and this is a complete diversion ...
Yes it is. Some say the charges are trumped by the US specifically for diversion, and you are playing their hand perfectly.
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Nov 29, 2010, 08:41 AM
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Why would the Obots do that when they have a real provable case of espionage against him if they want it ?
I think the recent leaks will finally prompt them to act.
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Nov 29, 2010, 01:35 PM
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Tom I think we should agree that this process is embarrassing everyone and helping no one
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Nov 29, 2010, 04:26 PM
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Oh I agree . As I read most of the news I see nothing particularly new and many confirmations of stuff I deduced from available open source research . Again Assange is just opening the vault to unvettted raw data that enemies can piece together with their known intel and potentially put operatives at risk.
There is also undiplomatic emails that once released hurts years of diplomatic efforts at cooperation with allies and adversaries alike.
These leaks from the start are the work of espionage ,and conduits like the NY Slimes really stretch credulity claiming it is in the public's best interest to have access to this.
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Nov 30, 2010, 04:56 AM
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More on the NY Slimes participation.
Back when the Climategate leaked emails were published the Slimes made the following comments when they decided not to publish them:
The documents appear to have been acquired illegally and contain all manner of private information and statements that were never intended for the public eye, so they won't be posted here.
Private Climate Conversations on Display - NYTimes.com
But now when there are real national security implications related to the Wikileaks relevations the Slime contradict this principle.
The articles published today and in coming days are based on thousands of United States embassy cables, the daily reports from the field intended for the eyes of senior policy makers in Washington.. . The Times believes that the documents serve an important public interest, illuminating the goals, successes, compromises and frustrations of American diplomacy in a way that other accounts cannot match.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/wo...ditornote.html
In the interest of fairness ,the Slimes should release all internal documents related to how they make their editorial decisions. I want to see all memos ,emails ,the names of all anonymous sources .Oh yeah... their internal processes is private information and statements that were never intended for the public eye.
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