[tomder55]

A purple heart for the effort .

[tomder55]

Ok guys, many many moons ago I was a yacht broker in Ft. Lauderdale and sold yachts or boats or whatever. You all seemed to miss the "boat" on this one. Notice where it says "charter" the boat out. Duh. Kerry is going to make his $7M yacht a charter boat to avoid all kinds of taxes and have essentially a "free" boat for him to cruise around in. Yard fees, dockage, maintenance etc on a yacht that big would cost a small fortune out of his personal pocket if he didn't incorporate this into a business setting. This way he can essentially "write off" just about ALL of the damned boat cost and still "own" a nice ride. I'll wager that this "charter boat biz" actually "costs" money to run and he ends up paying zero taxes on that "business".

Ain't it grand that we have such wonderful tax dodges as our fine elected officials? Bet his attorney worked overtime dreaming up this scheme to "save" Kerry some hard earned (joke here please) money.

Excellent point. When you think about it from a business standpoint then you have someone who outsourced to New Zealand ,and moved a business out of his state for tax reasons. Does he not know how important the boat building business is to the region he represents ? He's a Brahmin traitor who doesn't care a lick about job creation.

"Darn, that would have been a wonderful job for a Maine builder," said Jane Wellehan, president of the trade group Maine Built Boats. "If someone comes to build a $7 million boat that would employ half the population of some towns for a year or two. Boat building is such a critical component of our coastal economy."

Gregory Egan, who owns the Crosby Yacht Yard in Osterville, said Bay State boat builders must feel cut adrift by Kerry as well.

"I'm confident that anything constructed in New Zealand could be constructed here in the state," he said. "From a political perspective, it seems to me he could have thought twice about that one."

Steve Capozzola, media director for the Alliance for American Manufacturing, was surprised at Kerry's move. House Democrats are pushing legislation to boost American manufacturing jobs.

"It's ironic that he'd be buying a foreign-made boat when the House Democrats are considering a number of measures to revitalize American manufacturing," he said.

Political shipwreck - BostonHerald.com

Perfectly sound business practices however which only doubly reinforce Steve's charge of hypocrisy and duplicity.

I can see it now... Kerry... "I was for the luxury tax before I was against it " ..

Also you have to wonder about the carbon footprint to build and run a luxury yacht.

[speechlesstx]

Also you have to wonder about the carbon footprint to build and run a luxury yacht.

He's got a plan for that, too. A perfect time to distract from his own carbon footprint and push for cap and tax again.

[tomder55]

Reconciliation during the lame duck session. I'm beginning the agree with Clete .

I propose an Amendment .The day of the election should be the last day the loser serves. This lame duck session was the product of an 18th century reality... It took months to travel.

Today a new Congress could easily be sworn in immediately after an election.

[speechlesstx]

They're also considering ramming card check and God knows what else through in a lame duck session. I'm all for your amendment.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

In that same vein, you remember Obama saying all that stuff about NOT prosecuting the previous administration? You know, "looking forward and not backward"? When the Republicans take over the house, if they do, they're going to try to impeach Obama, for sure. If you liked Ken Starr, you're going to LOVE Michelle Bachman.

Bachmann was asked "how do you feel about the chances for like a little oversight and a little accountability now that the Republicans will have the subpoena power - how aggressive do you think..."

"Oh, I think that's all we should do," Bachmann said. "I think that all we should do is issue subpoenas and have one hearing after another."

Given that THAT is coming, for SURE, the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld cabal should be put on trial - TODAY.

excon

[tomder55]

What I'm lookig for is a Patrick Fitzgerald to investigate national security leaks to the Washington Compost and Wiki.Do you think Eric Holder will appoint one ? Do you think Leon Panetta will insist ?

[speechlesstx]

Good call again, tom. As for Bachman's threat, you don't recall the Democrats' 2006 "Republican culture of corruption" campaign and what they did as soon as they gained control of Congress?

[excon]

As for Bachman's threat, you don't recall the Democrats' 2006 "Republican culture of corruption" campaign and what they did as soon as they gained control of Congress?

Hello again, Steve:

No, I was too young back then.

excon

[speechlesstx]

No, I was too young back then.

LOL, as was I when the government launched the war on drugs. I was 10, which is why I "didn't make a peep about that."

[paraclete]

Reconciliation during the lame duck session. I'm beginning the agree with Clete .

I propose an Amendment .The day of the election should be the last day the loser serves. This lame duck session was the product of an 18th century reality.... It took months to travel.

Today a new Congress could easily be sworn in immediately after an election.

You know, Tom, that is a reality where I live, when you're out, you're out. Perhaps they weren't as enlightened as they would have us believe in the eighteenth century

[tomder55]

I think it was due to the reality that it took a representative a long time to travel to Washington by horse and carriage. It has gotten better .Initially there was a 4 month gap and the states set the election date. But the Constitution made provisions for Congress to set a uniform date.(art 1 sec 4 clause1).They subsequently set the date as the Tuesday following the first Monday in November.

The lame duck session is also mandated in the Constitution . But ,that was because there was the gap until March. Congress was required to meet the 1st day of December to do housekeeping .(art 1 sec 4 clause 2).

But ,since travel and communications got better ,the country adopted the 20th Amendment to deal with the new reality.

It set the beginning of the term on the 3rd day in January. It has been generally understood that the old Congress would not do earth shaking legislation while in the lame duck. But if this Congress is going to break that trust then it's time to further refined the Constitution.

You say Perhaps they weren't as enlightened as they would have us believe in the eighteenth century. I say they were very enlightened because they saw there would be a need to amend the Constitution ,and they made provisions for it.

[paraclete]

You say Perhaps they weren't as enlightened as they would have us believe in the eighteenth century. I say they were very enlightened because they saw there would be a need to amend the Constitution ,and they made provisions for it.

That's not enlightment, Tom, that's reality, I guess you missed the pun. Our constitution has provisions for amendment too but the fellows who constructed it made sure that it had to be an absolute certainty to get up. It was easier for us we didn't have preexistent states and we haven't really added any states, being comprised of the entire continent at federation. I expect in another hundred years we will be looking at something somewhat dated but very hard to amend

[speechlesstx]

Here's another good example...

[tomder55]

Kerry STILL has not paid his taxes on the yacht.
John Kerry’s bucks stop where? - BostonHerald.com

[paraclete]

Kerry STILL has not paid his taxes on the yacht.
John Kerry’s bucks stop where? - BostonHerald.com

And so? Who pays taxes they don't have too. We are all busy running around concerning ourselves about who pays taxes and who doesn't. I thought we had an elected government to take care of those concerns.

[tomder55]

Kerry is part of that elected government . Last I heard ,he supports us paying more taxes.

[NeedKarma]

Kerry is part of that elected government . Last I heard ,he supports us paying more taxes.

Citation?