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Jul 3, 2010, 05:51 PM
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There is no Social Security Retirement benefits in Russia. There is no Unemployment Insurance in Russia. At least America STILL has both to fall back on.
Quite honestly I would not repeal or end anything on your list except health care which is more like nonhealth care or death care.. That item took too long to finally jam through to a yes vote. Why didn't Congress vote on something for the masses instead of the insurance companies? Still scratching my head on that one.
AND put God back into the schools please. Having to select a passage out of the bible in the morning and reading it was one thing I remember from my childhood. So what's so wrong with that practice? We are raising a generation of god hating children who have no morals or values at all.
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Jul 4, 2010, 03:50 AM
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True or False. If you had your druthers, you WOULD:
(1) Repeal health care
(3) Turn Medicare over the insurance companies
1 ,2, and 3 are the same issue . Like you ,if I had my way ,I would negotiate fees directly with the caregiver. Insurance would be for catastrophic care and if the government was involved at all it would perhaps help in creating incentives for people to save into a health care account.
The poor would be eligible for care under a safety net program. But that is an unrelated issue. I would not create a massive government run program to administer health care.
Social Security is a reality and so is Medicare. It would be grossly unfair to screw the people who have paid into these abominations all these years. I would gurarantee their benefits ,but would phase them out for new workers .
Both programs are headed for a train wreck and are unsustainable as is . Increasing the scope of these programs is folly.
Will deal with the rest later
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Jul 4, 2010, 04:01 AM
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(4) End unemployment insurance compensation
No However you know as well as I that it is a double edged sword and acts as a disincentive in some cases for job seekers. The true numbers of unemployed recenty have been vastly understated because many people having their unemployment benefits extended have stopped seeking employment .
5.Tax the poor . Yes ,as cruel as it sounds I think everyone with income should have some skin in the game if there is going to be an income tax . The poor do get taxed .Every purchase the poor makes gets taxed . But you aren't talking about that tax... you are talking about income tax . There should be no taxes at all on income for anyone .
More to come.
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Jul 4, 2010, 06:11 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
True or False. If you had your druthers, you WOULD:
(1) Repeal health care If the government is to provide health care, let it do so instead of forcing me to subsidize Aetna
(2) Privatize Social Security I'm 50+, I'll never see it.
(3) Turn Medicare over the the insurance companies Already happening.
(4) End unemployment insurance compensationPrivatize it and require employers to have it just like liability.
(5) Tax the poor They already are being taxed. Make it more equitable, yes.
(6) Bomb Iran "Make a desert and call it Peace" They declared war in 1979.
(7) Overturn Roe v Wade Get the government out of the practice of medicine altogether
(8) Deregulate Wall StreetYou pays your money and you takes your chances. Fraud is still fraud.
(9) Overturn Brown v Board of Education If that's what it takes to eliminate reverse discrimination as well as the original
(10) Overturn Giddeon v Wainwright Given the con game the legal profession has become, this one is necessary
(11) Overturn Miranda See # 10. In U.S. Courts regarding U.S. laws
(12) Repeal the Civil Rights Act.. Which one? 1866? 1875? 1960? 1964? 2009?
(13) Repeal ALL gun laws. Nope. Leave the 2nd amendment.
(14) **** Put prayer BACK in the public square **** (edited - how could I have forgotten THIS?) Wouldn't you like to put a manora on your lawn?
There are a couple more I'd like to eliminate: The IRS, the NEA, the concept of confinement as punishment, stuff like that.
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Jul 4, 2010, 06:18 AM
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 Originally Posted by Catsmine
Wouldn't you like to put a manora on your lawn? There are a couple more I'd like to eliminate: The IRS, the NEA, the concept of confinement as punishment, stuff like that.
Hello Cats:
Interesting... What would you do? Reinstate stocks? By the way, my lawn is NOT public. If it was, I SHOULDN'T be able to put a manora there.
excon
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Jul 4, 2010, 06:25 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello Cats:
Interesting... What would you do? Reinstate stocks? By the way, my lawn is NOT public. If it was, I SHOULDN'T be able to put a manora there.
excon
But it's visible to the public. Lawsuits have been won on that basis. I'm not about to put a pentagram on mine.
As far as punishment goes, I want restitution made rather than supporting the miscreant. If restituition cannot be made, bullets are cheap.
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Jul 4, 2010, 09:37 AM
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6. Bomb Iran.. I am on record pf preferring regime change . Bombing although completely justified would only be a last resort .
7.Overturn Roe v Wade . Absolutely there is no Constitutional basis for the law or the taking of innocent life.
8. Deregulate Wall Street. Not completely ,but determine which regulations help the consumer and which ones put a needless monkey wrench into business practices and ironically create the very conditons you would like to prevent.
9. Brown v Board reversed an activist court's misreading of the amendments that followed the Civil War.
10 and 11 Cat's answer is the correct response. The court periodically adjusts these rulings anyway.
12. No ;my name isn't either Ron or Rand Paul. The Courts periodically address the unintended consequences to the Act . Like ALL comprehensive legislation there is some worth keeping ,some needing adjustment and some unconstitutional . For that reason alone I object to comprehensive legislation.
13. There is nothing wrong with registering requirements.
14. Imagine that... 234 years of independence with people freely praying on the public square and celebrating faith... and for the most part no one objected or thought it necessary to deny them their civil religious rights as identifed in the very 1st amendment to the Constitition (free exercise... and the right to peaceful assembly for that matter ).
That about covers it.
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Jul 4, 2010, 10:00 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
14. Imagine that ....234 years of independence with people freely praying on the public square and celebrating faith ...and for the most part no one objected or thought it necessary to deny them their civil religious rights as identifed in the very 1st amendment to the Constitition (free exercise ...and the right to peaceful assembly for that matter ).
That about covers it.
Hello again, tom:
When I recited prayer in public school, it wasn't MY faith that was celebrated. It was YOURS. If I was free, as you say I am, that would NOT have been imposed upon me. But it WAS, and you'd do it again. I don't know why. I believe in religious FREEDOM too.
That about covers it.
excon
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Jul 4, 2010, 10:11 AM
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You didn't ask about prayers in school . You said prayers in the public square .
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Jul 4, 2010, 10:29 AM
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 Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
(6) Bomb Iran, Level several cities there like we did Japan in WWII, and do it again and again, till they give up
What part of the gospel would you cite for this? Just asking.
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Jul 4, 2010, 10:34 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
you didn't ask about prayers in school . You said prayers in the public square .
Hello again, tom:
Yeah. I should have been more specific.
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Jul 4, 2010, 02:30 PM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, tom:
Yeah. I shoulda been more specific.
excon
I was bemused by your changing it from school to square. I don't think prayers in school violate anyone's rights. The mandatory part is what's unConstitutional.
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