[smoothy]

Hello again, smoothy:

Now we've regressed to 2nd grade. I ain't playing.

excon

YOU made a false claim, you can't and won't prove directed specifically at ME.. be man enough to admit YOUR mistake... and we can let it drop.

[smoothy]

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.

Verify at: The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR): Immigration and Welfare


2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

Verify at: The High Cost of Cheap Labor: Illegal Immigration and the Federal Budget | Center for Immigration Studies

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

Verify at: The High Cost of Cheap Labor: Illegal Immigration and the Federal Budget | Center for Immigration Studies

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscrip...01/ldt..0.HTML

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscrip...01/ldt.01.HTML

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnncom/%20TRANscr...01/ldt.01.HTML

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

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8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.

Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML

9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSC%20...01/ldt.01.HTML

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .

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11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries.. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the US from the Southern border.

Verify at: Homeland Security Report:


12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'

Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.....eportation.PDF

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.

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14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .'

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The total cost is a whopping $ 3383 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.

[speechlesstx]

Ex, you think it's OK for the guy who just wants to blow your leaves to stick around, right? Then why won't the Dems let farmers in the central California valley have some water instead of letting it just go out to sea so the guy who just wants to pick a few almonds can have a job?



They don't care, their 'compassion' is more for some delta smelt than that brown-skinned family just trying to have a better life.

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Hell, if I moved to Australia...I'd expect to have to learn the intricacies of your Austrailian Dialect. I wouldn't expect everyone there to have to learn the American Dialect to suit me. And I am sure you know the many differences between our dialect and yours....or even Queens English which would be far less different to you.

Take a look at what we each call car parts for example... and how different they are.

It's strange you know, because we have been inundated with American film, hell since the FTA we even have your ads on TV, we understand the American dialect. Sienfeld even does ads over here, can't get work in the states I guess. We have a little difficulty with your humour since we tend to mature in our twenties, but we understand you without difficulty and I would like to dispel the idea we don't use the Queen's english although a well modulated voice is harder to find these days. I expect you have some difficulty with bonnets and boots on cars but no well dressed car should be without them and surprise, we do have cars that run on gas, but what do you call that stuff you put in cars that run on CNG..

The big cultural difference between us is Gun Culture, it is foreign to our nature to reach for a gun or to carry a weapon, aside from being illegal

[cdad]

It's stange you know, because we have been inundated with American film, hell since the FTA we even have your ads on TV, we understand the American dialect. Sienfeld even does ads over here, can't get work in the states I guess. We have a little difficulty with your humour since we tend to mature in our twenties, but we understand you without difficulty and I would like to dispell the idea we don't use the Queen's english although a well modulated voice is harder to find these days. I expect you have some difficulty with bonnets and boots on cars but no well dressed car should be without them and surprise, we do have cars that run on gas, but what do you call that stuff you put in cars that run on CNG..

the big cultural difference between us is Gun Culture, it is foriegn to our nature to reach for a gun or to carry a weapon, aside from being illegal

For us here in the U.S. CNG is Compressed Natural Gas.(CNG). There is another gas product here that we use called propane. It's a liquid to gas product and many homes and cars run on it. Maybe that's what you were thinking of in looking for a different name?

[smoothy]

It's stange you know, because we have been inundated with American film, hell since the FTA we even have your ads on TV, we understand the American dialect. Sienfeld even does ads over here, can't get work in the states I guess. We have a little difficulty with your humour since we tend to mature in our twenties, but we understand you without difficulty and I would like to dispell the idea we don't use the Queen's english although a well modulated voice is harder to find these days. I expect you have some difficulty with bonnets and boots on cars but no well dressed car should be without them and surprise, we do have cars that run on gas, but what do you call that stuff you put in cars that run on CNG..

the big cultural difference between us is Gun Culture, it is foriegn to our nature to reach for a gun or to carry a weapon, aside from being illegal

Oh trust me... I learned all the british automotive terminology from a Bently manual many years ago.. when I owned a British Sports car.. thank god for photos the let me learn what they really were.

That and writing a lease for an Apartment with a guy from England. Boy THAT was fun... since it was a furnished apartment and the entire inventory was listed in it.

[smoothy]

For us here in the U.S. CNG is Compressed Natural Gas.(CNG). There is another gas product here that we use called propane. Its a liquid to gas product and many homes and cars run on it. Maybe thats what you were thinking of in looking for a different name?

Yeah... Propane = LPG , CNG = VERY high pressure natual gas in a tank.

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For us here in the U.S. CNG is Compressed Natural Gas.(CNG). There is another gas product here that we use called propane. Its a liquid to gas product and many homes and cars run on it. Maybe thats what you were thinking of in looking for a different name?

You call the fuel you put in cars "gas", which we call petrol, so what do you call the gas you in put in cars that run on CNG or propane, no, I was just looking for the collogual term because I had never heard it or is it that cars run on gas no matter what form it takes? The gas we use for fuel in homes is called natural gas when reticulated and LNG when bottled. Just trying to understand linguistic differences

[cdad]

CNG or Propane are the correct terms for those types of gases. Maybe what provides confusion is in the gasoline we use there are 3 different grades. And the old name for premium gas was called ethyl. Ive heard the term pertrol for gasoline and benzene referring to diesel. Fuel. CNG isn't real popular yet here but propane is fairly common. We also run Natural gas (unliquified) into homes for heating cooking etc.

[cdad]

For cars in general they run on gas (gasoline) or diesel most commonly. Others run on propane and so does a lot of industrial equiptment like forklifts and such. It comes in a bottle as liquid and then gets converted to low pressure so the engine can consume it. Last is CNG. That is still faily rare here. It too is kept in a bottle and is liquid then converted to low pressure for the engine to use.

Each is its own independent fuel.

[paraclete]

Oh trust me....I learned all the british automotive terminology from a Bently manual many years ago..when I owned a British Sports car..thank god for photos the let me learn what they really were.

That and writing a lease for an Appartment with a guy from England. Boy THAT was fun....since it was a furnished appartment and the entire inventory was listed in it.

I've always been confused about what an apartment actually is. I have come to the conclusion it might be what we call a unit or a semi. We also have flats which you might term a bed sit or is that an english term. You see for us, a unit is something you own and a flat is something you rent. Very confusing. We have the added confusion that what you call a house always appears to be multi-storied whereas what we term a house you call a bungalow, a term that has disappeared from our language. Adding to the confusion we don't have basements or attics, just don't have that much stuff I guess

[cdad]

I've always been confused about what an apartment actually is. I have come to the conclusion it might be what we call a unit or a semi. We also have flats which you might term a bed sit or is that an english term. You see for us, a unit is something you own and a flat is something you rent. Very confusing. We have the added confusion that what you call a house always appears to be multi-storied whereas what we term a house you call a bungalow, a term that has disappeared from our language. Adding to the confusion we don't have basements or attics, just don't have that much stuff I guess

Ill see if I can't add to your confusion a little :)

Here a "house" is a stand alone dwelling. It can be single story or multi story. From there they are broken down into style of home. Bungalow, ranch, estate etc.

An apartment is a dwelling attatched to other units. If there are only 2 units its called a duplex (but each single unit is still called an apartment). In the case of side by side units that are more then one story but only 2 dwellings those can be called townhouse. They share 1 common wall. Usually in the middle.

[paraclete]

Ill see if I can't add to your confusion alittle :)

Here a "house" is a stand alone dwelling. It can be single story or multi story. From there they are broken down into style of home. bungalow, ranch, estate etc.

An apartment is a dwelling attatched to other units. If there are only 2 units its called a duplex (but each single unit is still called an apartment). In the case of side by side units that are more then one story but only 2 dwellings those can be called townhouse. They share 1 common wall. Usually in the middle.

Yes you certainly have not clarifed the usage. We would agree that a house is a stand alone dwelling. We wouldn't describe style in that manner so ranch or estate would have no meaning to us in describing a house. Our descriptions would be more related to period, such as contemporary, victorian, colonial, federation, which probably have no meaning to you, and anything bigger than an suburban block might be termed acerage or a property. An estate is a group of houses usually developed for lower income families or just a subdivision of a suburban area. What you call a duplex we would call semi detached, a row of attached buildings is called a terrace and a townhouse is something that has only crept in recently as a form of development. Basically townhouses are separated by garages whilst terraces are older and might not have a garage. Multi story unit developments are called simply units or a block of units

It is very interesting how usage differs from place to place and yet we can still understand each other

[cdad]

Yes you certainly have not clarifed the usage. We would agree that a house is a stand alone dwelling. We wouldn't describe style in that manner so ranch or estate would have no meaning to us in describing a house. Our descriptions would be more related to period, such as contemporary, victorian, colonial, federation, which probally have no meaning to you, and anything bigger than an suburban block might be termed acerage or a property. An estate is a group of houses usually developed for lower income families or just a subdivision of a suburban area. What you call a duplex we would call semi detatched, a row of attached buildings is called a terrace and a townhouse is something that has only crept in recently as a form of development. basicly townhouses are seperated by garages whilst terraces are older and might not have a garage. Multi story unit developments are called simply units or a block of units

It is very interesting how usage differs from place to place and yet we can still understand each other

It funny how some is almost the same but different. We also use these three as descriptive to a style of home; contemporary, victorian, colonial.

Also terms like salt box and art deco. Go figure. Lol.

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It funny how some is almost the same but different. We also use these three as descriptive to a style of home; contemporary, victorian, colonial.

Also terms like salt box and art deco. Go figure. lol.

I very much doubt if colonial means the same to you as it does to me. Might be a separation of a couple of hundred years there. And of course revolutonary would have a very different meaning. Can't imagine a salt box but we do have some very nice art deco theatres. In houses I could only imagine something with round windows, odd angles, and a black and white colour scheme. Here's one that might throw you, sand stock, referring to convict made, and probably recycled, bricks and of course, we don't have adobe unless it is very contemporary

[Stringer]

Yes you certainly have not clarifed the usage. We would agree that a house is a stand alone dwelling. We wouldn't describe style in that manner so ranch or estate would have no meaning to us in describing a house. Our descriptions would be more related to period, such as contemporary, victorian, colonial, federation, which probally have no meaning to you, and anything bigger than an suburban block might be termed acerage or a property. An estate is a group of houses usually developed for lower income families or just a subdivision of a suburban area. What you call a duplex we would call semi detatched, a row of attached buildings is called a terrace and a townhouse is something that has only crept in recently as a form of development. basicly townhouses are seperated by garages whilst terraces are older and might not have a garage. Multi story unit developments are called simply units or a block of units

It is very interesting how usage differs from place to place and yet we can still understand each other

We also call houses; contemporary, victorian, colonial, brown stone, stucco. Etc however it primarily refers to the architecture/design of the house.

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W also call houses; contemporary, victorian, colonial, brown stone, stucco. etc however it primarily refers to the architecture/design of the house.

Some of those terms don't have equivalents here and I suspect some have very different meanings which is what we were really discussing, the different meanings or understandings applied to the same word. To me victorian means something with multi stories, multiple fronts, and steep roofs or follies like turrets. Colonial would date from about 1800 and have high ceilings and large verandahs

[cdad]

Some of those terms don't have equivalents here and I suspect some have very different meanings which is what we were really discussing, the different meanings or understandings applied to the same word. to me victorian means some thing with multi stories, multiple fronts, and steep roofs or follies like turrets. Colonial would date from about 1800 and have high ceilings and large verandahs

Sorry ex for hijacking it here.

This may help as a picture is worth 1000 words and easier to type :)

Check this link for home views for you comparisons.

Ref:

Home Style Guide - Home Styles and Home Architecture

[Stringer]

Sorry ex for hijacking it here.

This may help as a picture is worth 1000 words and easier to type :)

check this link for home views for you comparisons.

Ref:

Home Style Guide - Home Styles and Home Architecture

Good post Dad.

[paraclete]

Sorry ex for hijacking it here.

This may help as a picture is worth 1000 words and easier to type :)

check this link for home views for you comparisons.

Ref:

Home Style Guide - Home Styles and Home Architecture

Yes dad there is a big difference as I said
New Homes - Complete Home

As dad threads only get hijacked when they become boring