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Itss A New Day · Oct 10, 2009, 02:20 AM

Sounds like more math than I'm willing to tackle right now... and wouldn't you have to know the percentage of inactive ingredients? Or do you just figure it out by subtracting the percentage of actives from 100% and therefore getting the percentage of inactives? This would be a great idea if only I was a math whiz lol. My mind is spinning...

Golden_Girl · Oct 10, 2009, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by EggoMini

He's just scared..he thinks he married Kelly and is going to end up with Beyonce. mwahaha!

I'm reassuring him that I'll be Michelle-like at most.

You know looking at this photo actually looks kind of funny and obvious... lol Notice how Beyonce is course the lightest one with bright blond hair, and very busty while the other 2 is well covered up like brides mades! Her necklace (the only one wearing one I might add), and her wedding-like gown being the prettiest. The photographer actually has her taking up more of the photo, as she is not standing in profile as the other 2. I think it's funny because they gave her a pushup bra and the other 2 something much more simple :o

Itss A New Day · Oct 10, 2009, 02:25 AM

LOL yeah it looks like an overhead ceiling light fixture is beaming down on her! Geez I mean could you be any more obvious. When I was in middle/high school Destiny's Child had just emerged, and my friends and I would always notice that Beyonce got the better outfits out of the group, and it didn't help that her mom was the designer for the group lol.

EggoMini · Oct 10, 2009, 02:36 AM

I agree GG & IAND.. In retrospect, Destiny's Child seemed like a total launch pad-showcase for Beyonce. Very Diana Ross and the Supremes.

LMAO @ the photo, yes.. it's quite "Beyonce and 'dem." She could've been positioned differently, maybe more like Kelly to balance the poses but oh well... We know what that was about now.

Golden_Girl · Oct 10, 2009, 02:45 AM

So true. When Destiny's Child was out I always loved her outfits and hairstyles, coming to find out it was a setup from her fashion desiger mom. I would like to reach her shade. But, I still feel for the previous members LaTavia and Latoya. I think I would have bounced too due to the unfairness and like Eggo mentioned "the launch pad-showcase for Beyonce", when all of them are so talented.

Golden_Girl · Oct 10, 2009, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by Itss A New Day

Sounds like more math than I'm willing to tackle right now...and wouldn't you have to know the percentage of inactive ingredients? or do you just figure it out by subtracting the percentage of actives from 100% and therefore getting the percentage of inactives? This would be a great idea if only I was a math whiz lol. My mind is spinning...

Well, it's not being made from scratch, so all of the inactive ingredients is your base. Your using your base as the all-ready made lotion, so you'll just be adding the active ingredient and try mix it well together. I'm no math whiz myself, so this is an estimation and doubt we have to be exact. I was only planning on adding a couple of tubes in with another lotion, mix, then cover and use. As long as the hq does not oxidize, that is the main challenge.

EggoMini · Oct 10, 2009, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by Golden_Girl

So true. When Destiny's Child was out I always loved her outfits and hairstyles, coming to find out it was a setup from her fashion desiger mom. I would like to reach her shade. But, I still feel for the previous members LaTavia and Latoya. I think I would have bounced too due to the unfairness and like Eggo mentioned "the launch pad-showcase for Beyonce", when all of them are so talented.

Bey is a pretty color there too.

It's kind of hard to get a grasp, even with the celebrity examples because they too seem to change shades. I'm sure it depends on the lighting, makeup, photoshop, their sun exposure & regimens too etc.

When I was making my posts I Googled pics and one person can present so many different shades in all the photos! Craziness! Lol!

Itss A New Day · Oct 10, 2009, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by Golden_Girl

Well, it's not being made from scratch, so all of the inactive ingredients is your base. Your using your base as the all-ready made lotion, so you'll just be adding the active ingredient and try mix it well together. I'm no math whiz myself, so this is an estimation and doubt we have to be exact. I was only planning on adding a couple of tubes in with another lotion, mix, then cover and use. As long as the hq does not oxidize, that is the main challenge.

Ok I get it now, so now the question is how to figure out how much tubes I would need in comparison to say a 250ml. Or 500ml. Tub of cream to maintain the same effect of the actives, and then maybe add something to prolong the stability of the HQ, right? Are you over there concocting a super lotion as we speak Golden? Lol no seriously I get the feeling you're about to make some genius concoction, right or wrong :)

EggoMini · Oct 10, 2009, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by Itss A New Day

Ok I get it now, so now the question is how to figure out how much tubes I would need in comparison to say a 250ml. or 500ml. tub of cream to maintain the same effect of the actives, and then maybe add something to prolong the stability of the HQ, right? Are you over there concocting a super lotion as we speak Golden? lol no seriously I get the feeling you're about to make some genius concoction, right or wrong :)

I know.. When you get it together GG, I'll order some from you! Do you take Paypal? LOL!:p
I'm only half-joking. My kids have scrambled my brains. I can't do the calculations & mixology but I'll buy some from you.

Please keep us posted!

Golden_Girl · Oct 10, 2009, 08:31 PM

Lol... I'm still trying to learn and absorb as much as I can, but would like to try during this winter season to see how it comes out.

dessaml · Oct 10, 2009, 08:45 PM

I found a place that has HQ 10% for 30.00!! But they also have 7% so I think I'd try that first.

Itss A New Day · Oct 10, 2009, 08:56 PM

Yes put me on top of your prospective clientele list Golden. I asked a pharmacist in regards to mixing the cream we were talking about and he just said mix it 1 to 1, so use about the same amount of base as the active cream, but he did not go into detail about whether I could use more base than cream. Oh well at least I now know I can stretch out my cream a little bit longer.

Itss A New Day · Oct 10, 2009, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by dessaml

I found a place that has HQ 10% for 30.00!!!! But they also have 7% so I think I'd try that first.

Please DO SHARE!

By the way is it raw HQ or is it already mixed?

dessaml · Oct 10, 2009, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Itss A New Day

Please DO SHARE!!

btw is it raw HQ or is it already mixed?

Already mixed, it's a cream

Golden_Girl · Oct 10, 2009, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by dessaml

already mixed, its a cream

That sounds great. Was there shipping pretty high?

Itss A New Day that's great that you asked a pharmacist and that he shared the info.

slimgoody · Oct 16, 2009, 10:37 AM

OK, where is this HQ 10% for 30.00? Golden_Girl I am so enamoured with your intelligence, you are very learned and I appreciated that. I have 4% HQ, tret, and a bethamethasone I got from my derma and I tried mixing them together but it didn't turn out right it had the consistency of like a spoiled milk kind of liquid with bits of congealed cream, so my derm said I shouldn't have done so. I was told to use from the tube to body as needed and not mix. This seems laborous. I was really considering the tret in lotion thing to strecth what I have it sounds like a good suggestion. I used to mix 2% HQ creams in skin lightening lotions and it seemed OK.

Golden_Girl · Oct 16, 2009, 04:55 PM

Thanks Slimgoody *blushing*, I would like to become well-learned so many of my questions I have been having will be answered. I don't know where HQ 10% for 30.00 is, unless you practice compounding your own for much less. Hq in a tube or pumb bottle is always best as it will oxidize less and remain more potent, since it is less exposed to air and light this way. Some active ingredients become ineffective when mixed with others, I don't know if this is what had happened though or if it was because it was exposed too much air and light. Although laborous, your derm is most likely correct.

slimgoody · Oct 17, 2009, 05:29 PM

Thanks Golden_Girl for the response to my post I am so heart broken but I will try to be delligent in doing the HQ tret process. I too have been bleaching for years I was a HQ2% queen but now I've stepped up I was looking for something permanent I want to have a Rihanna like tone, and I was told tret can help in semi to permanent results

Golden_Girl · Oct 17, 2009, 10:12 PM

Maybe some of the other members here who are using hq/tret know about the hq 10%, so you can try and post a question about it and go from there. I never used hq accept the 2%for my acne spots for about 2 weeks, and that was a fews back. Yesterday I just ordered hq4% and tret 0.05% for my arms, hands, and spots on my face. Tretinoin can help lighten some people a little, but it's mainly great for good exfoliation and then applying a good skin lightener for better and faster results. You can also try some of the non-hq products, I'll be trying the chrystaline to see if it'll work for me.

lisaMitchell · Oct 29, 2009, 09:09 PM

Actually hydroquinone is not recommanded at all. That is why it is banned in Ireland and the UK.
You can get better results without burning your skin with natural extracts plants lotion and creams such as, Makari, QEI+ and 55H+
You can see them at http://http://ebfhair.net/ebfhairdot...ath=31&sort=2a