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inthebox · Sep 22, 2009, 04:18 AM

You read the first page? One study with leading questions.
The article goes on to say that "diversity" did not change things, is essentialism bad?

I'm of Asian descent, and have adopted my wife's kids whom are white. Whenever, I pass by Asian kids, adopted, by white couples, it is the Asian kids that look at me more than the Caucasians around them. Are these kids racist ? Or are they merely noticing the similarities.

G&P

Catsmine · Sep 22, 2009, 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Pick a color kid? Are you serious?

One more thing that has to go, very typical of the trend in white circles...white zinfandel.

Fill in the blank, speech, if you're being serious.

NeedKarma · Sep 22, 2009, 04:30 AM

Nothing wrong with noticing differences and similarities. I think kids innately judge (and they do) other kids as individuals not as groups of colour, age, language, etc. I think that racism (thinking that a group as a whole possesses negative traits) is a learnt behaviour. That's why this study is odd for me. I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with acknowledging our differences, my daughter recently said "why are they called black, they're more brown". I love the innocence in kids. We have an influx of Korean and Chinese immigrants in our little city and my daughter gets invited to their birthday parties, she's enjoying learning how different cultures do things a little differently.

tomder55 · Sep 22, 2009, 04:36 AM

OK here's a real life example . It goes right to the point of Elliot's sarcastic parody .

Dallas City Hall Blog | The Dallas Morning News

special meeting about Dallas County traffic tickets turned tense and bizarre this afternoon.
County commissioners were discussing problems with the central collections office that is used to process traffic ticket payments and handle other paperwork normally done by the JP Courts.
Commissioner Kenneth Mayfield, who is white, said it seemed that central collections "has become a black hole" because paperwork reportedly has become lost in the office.
Commissioner John Wiley Price, who is black, interrupted him with a loud "Excuse me!" He then corrected his colleague, saying the office has become a "white hole."
That prompted Judge Thomas Jones, who is black, to demand an apology from Mayfield for his racially insensitive analogy.
Mayfield shot back that it was a figure of speech and a science term. A black hole, according to Webster's, is perhaps "the invisible remains of a collapsed star, with an intense gravitational field from which neither light nor matter can escape."
Other county officials quickly interceded to break it up and get the meeting back on track. TV news cameras were rolling, after all.

NeedKarma · Sep 22, 2009, 04:50 AM

Dallas - a perpetual sad comedy,

speechlesstx · Sep 22, 2009, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by inthebox

I'm of Asian descent, and have adopted my wife's kids whom are white. Whenever, I pass by Asian kids, adopted, by white couples, it is the Asian kids that look at me more than the Caucasians around them. Are these kids racist ? or are they merely noticing the similarities.

Did you know that Asian-Americans had the "sharpest drop in home ownership last year?" There's got to be something racist about that.

speechlesstx · Sep 22, 2009, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Dallas - a perpetual sad comedy,

Yes, ever since it was taken over by liberals... :D

excon · Sep 22, 2009, 07:02 AM

Hellooooo:

No really, HELLOOOOOOO. Is there anybody home?? Do you NOT get the difference between discussing race and being racist??

Are you really THAT DENSE?? I think you need a death panel.

excon

NeedKarma · Sep 22, 2009, 07:10 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Yes, ever since it was taken over by liberals... :D

I actually wasn't aware it was a bastion of liberalism, the new San Francisco if you will. There I've learned something today.

ETWolverine · Sep 22, 2009, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

You probably don't read Better Homes & Gardens either. Or the Mensa Bulletin.

But I acknowledge that both print articles that have value, whether I read them or not.

But... c'mon... Newsweek? :confused:

Elliot

ETWolverine · Sep 22, 2009, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

what a load of blatant krap, it is not even funny, I won'tdignify it with further comment

Yep. Right about on par with excon's accusations of racism, don't you think?

Which was exactly the point.

speechlesstx · Sep 22, 2009, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I actually wasn't aware it was a bastion of liberalism, the new San Francisco if you will. There I've learned something today.

Actually the bastion of liberalism in Texas is Austin. Dallas is moving that way but that doesn't mean the rest of the metroplex is following suit. It's a huge area with Ft Worth and all the many suburbs.

speechlesstx · Sep 22, 2009, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by excon

No really, HELLOOOOOOO. Is there anybody home??? Do you NOT get the difference between discussing race and being racist????

Uh, yeah. But tell me, how do you discuss race with people that see racism in every perceived slight imaginable and are convinced you're racist?

ETWolverine · Sep 22, 2009, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Actually the bastion of liberalism in Texas is Austin. Dallas is moving that way but that doesn't mean the rest of the metroplex is following suit. It's a huge area with Ft Worth and all the many suburbs.

Actually, I have experienced a similar leftward trend in Houston in recent years... it must be Houston's proximity to New Orleans and the influx of NO "refugees" from Katrina to Houston...

speechlesstx · Sep 22, 2009, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by ETWolverine

Actually, I have experienced a similar leftward trend in Houston in recent years... it must be Houston's proximity to New Orleans and the influx of NO "refugees" from Katrina to Houston...

You're absolutely right. But pointing that out is racist. ;)

jmjoseph · Sep 22, 2009, 01:26 PM

Please tell me the name of the place that has no racism?

I'LL tell YOU, it's called heaven.

Every city of every state, has a certain element of racism. If you don't believe that, you're blind.

It's our job to break the cycle. Or ATTEMPT to anyway.

Don't judge a man by the color of his skin, but by his actions.

This is such a sensitive issue. It's so very easy to offend someone by joking about it.

So, again I ask, WHY?

This is no joking matter.

ohsohappy · Sep 22, 2009, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Uh, yeah. But tell me, how do you discuss race with people that see racism in every perceived slight imaginable and are convinced you're racist?

This thread is not serious. It's a joke to point out how extreme people take it. That's all.

speechlesstx · Sep 22, 2009, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by ohsohappy

This thread is not serious. It's a joke to point out how extreme people take it. That's all.

ohsohappy, I ohsogetit just fine.

ohsohappy · Sep 22, 2009, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

ohsohappy, I ohsogetit just fine.

Okay that's good! No need for sarcasm.

speechlesstx · Sep 22, 2009, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by jmjoseph

It's our job to break the cycle. Or ATTEMPT to anyway.

Can't be done as long as people in high places incorrectly and inexcusably indict large portions of the American public as racist.

Don't judge a man by the color of his skin, but by his actions.

That's what we've been saying.

This is such a sensitive issue. It's so very easy to offend someone by joking about it.

So, again I ask, WHY?

This is no joking matter.

Elliot was illustrating the absurdity of race-baiters like Jimmy Carter and Maureen Dowd with absurdity. When some of the highest elected officials in the land impugn the American public because they've run out of answers for own failures, that's no joking matter either.