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classyT · Jul 8, 2009, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by artlady

There is much speculation about the missing years of Jesus in the Bible.Some Biblical scholars believe he studied with Buddah.Also some speculation that he was studying Jewish mysticism.
Both of these theories are considered blasphemous by the Christian faithful,because it was not written in the Bible.
The Gospel of St Thomas,known commonly as the gnostic Bible states that salvation of the soul comes from a
That indicates to me that truth is not only to be found in the Bible but the message of faith is love and that is universal.

Artlady,

Thanks for your thoughts. ( I got Jerry Springerish) ;) lol... sorry.

Wondergirl · Jul 8, 2009, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by classyT

he made us in his image. There is nothing that says he wrote his name on our hearts...come on guys.

AND it is no less than the Lord God Almighty – Maker of Heaven and Earth - Creator and Sustainer of all that is, was, and shall be – that has declared to us both today and through his prophet Isaiah some 800 years even before the birth and death of Jesus of Nazareth – that the Lord God of Israel has written YOU on the palm of His hand! "I will NEVER forget you!" our God still declares.

Wondergirl · Jul 8, 2009, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by classyT

Artlady,

Thanks for your thoughts. ( i got Jerry Springerish) ;) lol...sorry.

I'm still wondering what ungodly and false things did I tell someone to read?

Wondergirl · Jul 8, 2009, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by classyT

Jesushelper, we really don't all have God's spirit.

Yes, we do. We are all His creatures and share His image.

classyT · Jul 8, 2009, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

AND it is no less than the Lord God Almighty – Maker of Heaven and Earth - Creator and Sustainer of all that is, was, and shall be – that has declared to us both today and through his prophet Isaiah some 800 years even before the birth and death of Jesus of Nazareth – that the Lord God of Israel has written YOU on the palm of His hand! "I will NEVER forget you!" our God still declares.

WG,

That is written to the Jew or the believer ( this side of the cross)... not to the world.AND it is the Palm of his hand. Sorry. He also will give me a stone with a name on it when I am in eternity... a name he will give to me and only me. It isn't what jesus helper is saying.

N0help4u · Jul 8, 2009, 08:13 PM

Then why are there rapists and murderers?
If they possessed Gods spirit what would possess them to do those things?

Wondergirl · Jul 8, 2009, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by classyT

WG,

That is written to the Jew or the believer ( this side of the cross)...not to the world.AND it is the Palm of his hand. sorry. He also will give me a stone with a name on it when I am in eternity...a name he will give to me and only me. It isn't what jesus helper is saying.

Glad you've got that all figured out too... Now what false and ungodly things am I telling people to read?

classyT · Jul 8, 2009, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I'm still wondering what ungodly and false things did I tell someone to read?

I have made a mess of this thread and it really wasn't my intention. I apologize to the OP and I am done.

Wondergirl · Jul 8, 2009, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by N0help4u

Then why are there rapists and murderers?
If they possessed Gods spirit what would possess them to do those things?

You don't do anything wrong in a 24-hour period? God's spirit is in you, so what possesses you to do any of those wrong things?

N0help4u · Jul 8, 2009, 08:19 PM

The difference is that people with God's spirit know they did wrong and repent and ask God to help them do better.
Many rapists and serial killers have no conscience and will admit it and they have no remorse.
The Bible teaches that not all will come to God and that he tells many depart from me I never knew you.

Wondergirl · Jul 8, 2009, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by N0help4u

The difference is that people with God's spirit know they did wrong and repent and ask God to help them do better.
Many rapists and serial killers have no conscience and will admit it and they have no remorse.
The Bible teaches that not all will come to God and that he tells many depart from me I never knew you.

You didn't answer my question.

N0help4u · Jul 8, 2009, 08:23 PM

Yes I did.

*Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13children born not of natural descent,[c] nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.

John 1:12 clearly says that you have to receive and believe.

Wondergirl · Jul 8, 2009, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by N0help4u

yes I did.

Nope. What possesses you to do any of those wrong things?

N0help4u · Jul 8, 2009, 08:30 PM

Old habits that I haven't turned completely over to God.

What possesses some to do any of those wrong things?

Some because they live for their own lusts
Some because they have no concept of Godliness or morals.
Some because they have hatred

Wondergirl · Jul 8, 2009, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by N0help4u

old habits that I haven't turned completely over to God.

That's it? But you will never be free of wrongdoing on this earth. So you will never turn over ALL those old habits to God?

N0help4u · Jul 8, 2009, 08:41 PM

You are missing the point.
God says that if you confess your sins he will forgive them. People that do not aknowledge God do not confess and have remorse and ask God to forgive them and help them at overcoming their sin. They don't even see sin as being sin.