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    #81

    May 16, 2009, 02:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Joshdta View Post
    for like drain water? This could defentally be your problem
    Maybe I have a clogged pipe there and it's shutting the system down? Hmm.. let me take a look and see if I can dig in that pipe where the wire goes in...
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    #82

    May 16, 2009, 02:43 PM

    These should help answer some questions:








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    #83

    May 16, 2009, 02:49 PM

    I bet this is your problem this is a drain safety. That is why after awhile your t-stat will light back up after the water drains. You can jumper this switch to make sure it is the pproblem. Then if it is unclocge the drain.
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    #84

    May 16, 2009, 02:58 PM

    Yessss!!!!! Bingo!!!!!
    :D :D :D :D :D

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    #85

    May 16, 2009, 02:59 PM

    Great!! Glad we finally got to the bottom of this problem.
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    May 16, 2009, 03:08 PM

    Josh, I want to thank both you and KISS (what's your name! ) for hanging in there with me. You guys been very helpful. Mann... a simple thing like that and I went on the wild goose chase, LOL!
    But I have learned a lot from this experience. Before this I had no knowledge or experience with the HVAC system at all.

    Thank you once again! Appreciate the help and support Greatly! I hope someone else in the future will benefit from this long thread... hey, lots of pictures!! LOL!
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    #87

    May 16, 2009, 03:11 PM

    Yes I am sure someone will have this same issue with ac season coming on strong. Now all you have to do is put everything back the way it was lol. Have a great weekend.
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    #88

    May 16, 2009, 03:13 PM

    I regret doing something in the haste and excitement... when I opened up the cap to the pvc pipe, saw the water, I used a thin dowel and gently pushed it into the pvc pipe. The water globbed and drained down. I should have used a wire to fish up whatever that's clogged in the pipe!

    Oh Well... I'll keep an eye on it. Hope it was just a ball of lint or something.

    Hey Josh and KISS... I'll buy you both a beer! Let's Go!:D
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    May 16, 2009, 03:16 PM

    Sounds good, you should be good for awhile now. Just rember if this ever happens again. If you have enough points you can rate mine and kiss's answers. Would really be apreaciated. If you ever need anything else look me up. Josh
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    #90

    May 16, 2009, 03:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Joshdta View Post
    sounds good, you should be good for awhile now. Just rember if this ever happens again. if you have enough points you can rate mine and kiss's answers. would really be apreaciated. If you ever need anything else look me up. Josh
    How do I rate answers for you and KISS? There are only "Rate this answer" buttons on my own posts. I don't see any option on other's posts. This is different than those on other forums I'm on.
    Please elaborate on how to...
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    May 16, 2009, 03:43 PM

    I clicked on the green reputation icon, it doesn't give me the option to give points. Weird. Maybe one has to be a member for a certain period, or after a certain number of posts before this function is enabled?

    Btw, Thanks for your points, Josh! :)
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    #92

    May 16, 2009, 04:40 PM

    Mann... it sure feels good to have AC again... something we all take for granted sometimes. And it feels even better to have finally nailed the problem!:D


    For general knowledge, and for future reference, what kind of system/unit do I have? (heat pump/electric furnace/what stage? Etc). How should I describe it? The last few pics I posted should help I hope.
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    #93

    May 16, 2009, 04:43 PM

    You have a heatpump with 2 stage electric heat.
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    May 16, 2009, 05:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Joshdta View Post
    you have a heatpump with 2 stage electric heat.
    Thanks!

    Did you figure out how or why I can't give rep points?
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    May 16, 2009, 05:58 PM

    I disagree, your system is a 3 stage heat heat pump with backup electric heat and 1 cool.

    Your thermostat is 1 heat/1cool heat pump with 3 stage electric aux heat

    You might want to consider connecting a jumper between W2 and W3 at the furnace.

    Right now, you are not using the 3rd stage aux heating.

    You might actually have a 4 stage heating system:

    Y, Y+W1, Y+W1W2, Y+W1+W2+W3

    The thermostat is not the right one. You can get a lot better energy savings if a sensor and the proper thermostat is placed outside.

    The sensor determines when the Heat Pump is allowed to run.
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    #96

    May 16, 2009, 06:19 PM
    On the transformer you should have 120v one side and the other side you should have 24v. Something is causing the power to go out.IT might be your fan motor/run cap.
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    #97

    May 16, 2009, 07:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by KeepItSimpleStupid View Post
    I disagree, your system is a 3 stage heat heat pump with backup electric heat and 1 cool.

    Your thermostat is 1 heat/1cool heat pump with 3 stage electric aux heat

    You might want to consider connecting a jumper between W2 and W3 at the furnace.

    Right now, you are not using the 3rd stage aux heating.

    You might actually have a 4 stage heating system:

    Y, Y+W1, Y+W1W2, Y+W1+W2+W3

    The thermostat is not the right one. You can get a lot better energy savings if a sensor and the proper thermostat is placed outside.

    The sensor determines when the Heat Pump is allowed to run.

    There are only 2 heating elements how can it be 3 or 4 stage? Inless I missed something in the picture.
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    #98

    May 16, 2009, 08:50 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Joshdta View Post
    There are only 2 heating elements how can it be 3 or 4 stage? Inless i missed something in the picture.
    If I'm not mistaken, I think the fins below the fan cools or heats, and there is an additional set of heat elements above the fan?
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    May 16, 2009, 09:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by KenLoh View Post
    How do I rate answers for you and KISS? There are only "Rate this answer" buttons on my own posts. I don't see any option on other's posts. This is different than those on other forums I'm on.
    Please elaborate on how to....
    Quote Originally Posted by KenLoh View Post
    I clicked on the green reputation icon, it doesn't give me the option to give points. Weird. Maybe one has to be a member for a certain period of time, or after a certain number of posts before this function is enabled?
    Now I see the "Rate This Answer" option appear in all the posts. Incidentally, my "New Member" has been upgraded to "Junior Member". So I think it must have been a feature made available only after a certain number of posts.
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    May 17, 2009, 07:16 AM

    I need to come back to this. Take a look at:

    http://www.white-rodgers.com/wrdhom/...s/37-4244E.pdf

    In this system W2 and W3 are not connected, so those stages are not used or are not present.

    W1 could mean heat strip #1
    W2 could mean heat strip #2 (not connected)
    W3 could mean heat strip #1 and #2 (not connected)

    Y + O/B can mean heat pump

    Right now, confused.

    Ken: That's how you can have 3 stages with two strips.

    It's also how you can have 4 total heat sages.

    Something is difficult to understand here.

    W1 evidently is not connected to Y1 or O/B and therefore W1 isn't part of the heat pump circuit.

    More reading...

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