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    #21

    May 8, 2009, 08:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again:

    The Wolverine and I don't disagree on this point. That's why I question his support for a southern religious racist..

    If it's because evangelical Christians support the state of Israel, he should know that the only reason a southern Christian supports Israel, is because the idea of Jewish state supports their view of the end times.

    In the "end", however, the Jews are kicked to the curb, as usual....

    excon
    It's because he isn't a racist. For those who say that he's a racist, I just have to say that my racism sensor is not going off. But my bull$h!t radar is.

    Elliot
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    #22

    May 8, 2009, 09:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by ETWolverine View Post
    It's because he isn't a racist. For those who say that he's a racist, I just have to say that my racism sensor is not going off. But my bull$h!t radar is.
    Hello again, El:

    For a rightwing hardliner, you're an awfully lot more forgiving than me. Maybe it's because the guy you want to forgive is a rightwinger too.

    Me?? I don't have a racism sensor. I have a BRAIN! I couldn't care less what wing he belongs to. He uttered racist remarks. They have been documented. He has NEVER apologized for them, nor has he withdrawn them. Until he does, I assume he stands by them.

    If you weren't wearing right wing blinders, you'd see it too.

    excon
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    #23

    May 8, 2009, 09:27 AM
    Here's a little shocker for you, Focus on the Family has no problem with an openly gay justice (neither does Sessions if that hasn't been mentioned yet).

    In a move that will surprise gay activists and liberals, a spokesperson for Focus on the Family, a top religious right group, tells me that his organization has no problem with GOP Senator Jeff Sessions‘ claim today that he’s open to a Supreme Court nominee with “gay tendencies.”

    The spokesperson confirms the group won’t oppose a gay SCOTUS nominee over sexual orientation.

    “We agree with Senator Sessions,” Bruce Hausknecht, a spokesperson for Focus on the Family, which was founded by top religious right figure James Dobson, told me a few minutes ago. “The issue is not their sexual orientation. It’s whether they are a good judge or not.”

    Their sexual orientation “should never come up,” he continued. “It’s not even pertinent to the equation.”

    Gay activists had expected that the group would oppose an openly gay nominee, since the group has been an outspoken foe of gay marriage and has worked to convert gays to heterosexuality.

    In an interview on MSNBC this morning, Sessions, the key Republican on the Judiciary Committee, said: “I don’t think a person who acknowledges that they have gay tendencies is disqualified per se for the job.”

    “We need to be looking for a person that can gain full respect of the American people, who can apply the law fairly, when they put on that robe will be non-partisan and non-biased, no promoting any agenda, personal, religious, or moral, and follow the law faithfully,” Sessions continued.

    “Our concern at the Supreme Court is judicial philosophy,” FOF spokesperson Hausknecht continued. “Sexual orientation only becomes an issue if it effects their judging.” For example, he said, “If someone says, `I don’t care what the law says, on the next case involving sexual orientation, I’m going to decide the case in favor of the openly gay party,’ that would be a breach of judicial duty.”

    To some degree, the group’s surprising statement reflects the fact that an openly-gay SCOTUS nominee would take religious rights groups, and the rest of us, into uncharted political waters, since there hasn’t been one before. And it also suggests that some leading members of the Republican Party may find themselves to the right of leading religious groups on the question of whether to tolerate an openly gay Supreme Court justice.
    Personally I'm a little offended that this should "surprise gay activists and liberals" but what the heck, let 'em be surprised. I'd just like to see them applaud FOF for this.
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    #24

    May 8, 2009, 11:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Ah yes, the persecution complex.
    An earned one, I'd say.

    Btw, I'm not Jewish, I'm Irish, just so you'll know.
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    #25

    May 8, 2009, 03:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I see you are taking talking points from the moonbat blogs . You see;it's their strategery . If he opposes Obama's nominee to SCOTUS they can preemptively shout "RACIST " and that will automatically diminish his objections.

    But you see ;their slime is already discreditted with the fact that he voted in favor of Eric Holder. WHAT ??? A Racist voting for a black Sec Dept. of Justice ????? Who'da thunk it ?

    The truth is that he is fair minded and will give a decent respect to whoever is nominated regardless of race .He will certainly give a fairer hearing than Clarence Thomas got from the Dems. They committed character assassination against him. They threw the race card at Sam Alito also .It's their MO .

    Sessions knows full well what a nominee is subject to under the Dems Q and A because they used these old out of context smears against him in his 1986 bid for a federal judgeship . In all the confirmations hearings he has done since he became a Senator he has conducted himself with the class that the Dems in the Senate can only dream about.

    btw Sessions was already on the committee. You mean he was named Ranking member.
    Also since the Dems are in power he is the ranking minority member .
    Sen. Pat Lehey is the "head " of the committee ......or as they like to call it the "Chairman". Leahy is the meanest, most partisan, most ruthless most vicious Democrat in the Senate.But the good news is that when the Republicans regain the majority next year,Session will be the Committee Chair.
    A person who calls an African American working under him boy and tells him he better be careful when he is dealing with white people is not racist.Hmmm.You argument here is he cannot possibly be a racist because he has black friends.Really.IS this the best you can do.

    The republican party is at rock bottom, and if they keep on appointing hillbillies and racist ,God help them.People like you will vote for anyone as long as they are republican so your vote really doesn't count, its independents that they seem to driving out in droves
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    #26

    May 8, 2009, 03:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ETWolverine View Post
    It's because he isn't a racist. For those who say that he's a racist, I just have to say that my racism sensor is not going off. But my bull$h!t radar is.

    Elliot
    You racism sensor is out of whack,
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    #27

    May 8, 2009, 03:22 PM

    You can't be prejudiced against hillbillies . I bet you are even friends with one.
    You argument here is he cannot possibly be a racist because he has black friends.Really.IS this the best you can do.
    Don't be ridiculous and don't put words in my mouth .

    I believe in actions more than words and Sessions has a lifetime of achievement and record of being tolerant and open minded.
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    #28

    May 8, 2009, 03:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    You can't be prejudiced against hillbillies . I bet you are even friends with one.

    Don't be rediculous and don't put words in my mouth .

    I believe in actions more than words and Sessions has a lifetime of acheivement and record of being tolerant and open minded.
    No I am not friends with you.If you really believed in actions you would see a racist.But I cannot convince people like you.So this is just a waste of both of our time
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    #29

    May 8, 2009, 03:33 PM
    I have researched Sen. Sessions' alleged racism, and it appears they are based on vague, unproven allegations by people who didn't like his political views. I wouldn't defend a proven racist, but he should be innocent until proven guilty. I saw a video of that fat, drunk, moron, murderer "Senator" Ted Kennedy denouncing him, he of all people shouldn't judge others.
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    #30

    May 8, 2009, 03:33 PM

    Look at my response #7 & #9 and you will see by what I mean by actions if you can remove your liberal blinders. .

    All you have in your hate filled posting is the words of people discredited 2 decades ago and who have continued to be discredited by Sessions actions as a Senator .
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    #31

    May 8, 2009, 04:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    look at my response #7 & #9 and you will see by what I mean by actions if you can remove your liberal blinders. .

    All you have in your hate filled posting is the words of people discredited 2 decades ago and who have continued to be discredited by Sessions actions as a Senator .
    As I said before it is a waste of my time to be dealing with people like you
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    #32

    May 8, 2009, 04:24 PM

    Transcript of the Sessions hearings--over 500-pages worth--and it turns out there's quite a bit more. We're still going through it, of course, but the Figures testimony alone contains some damning details.

    Figures recalled one occasion in which the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division sent them instructions to investigate a case that Sessions had tried to close: "We had a very spirited discussion regarding how the Hodge case should then be handled; in the course of that argument, Mr. Sessions threw the file on a table, and remarked, 'I wish I could decline on all of them.'"

    All of them, according to Figures, meant civil rights cases generally. As he explained at one point: "[T]he statement, the manner in which it was delivered, the impression on his face, the manner in which his face blushed, I believe it represented a hostility to investigating and pursuing those types of matters."

    Figures said that Sessions had called him "boy" on a number of occasions, and had cautioned him to be careful what he said to "white folks. "Mr. Sessions admonished me to 'be careful what you say to white folks,'" Figures testified. "Had Mr. Sessions merely urged me to be careful what I said to 'folks,' that admonition would have been quite reasonable. But that was not the language that he used."

    Source Sessions Subordinate: I Thought I'd Be Fired If I Objected To Being Called 'Boy' | TPMDC

    I also have a copy of the 500 pages of the senate hearing if anyone is interested but I doubt anyone ill be interested.
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    #33

    May 8, 2009, 05:08 PM

    alinsky rules for radicals 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don't try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

    The way I figure it ;if a Senator has not been targeted by the race baiters then that Senator is not doing their job. It is no coincidence that these vicious attacks on Sessions began at the same week that Benedict Arlen switched parties ,and a SCOTUS opening happened.

    While you are doing all that reading ;why don't you take the time to read up on Henry Francis Hays ;the KKK dude that Sessions prosecuted for murder while he was a US Attorney?? Sessions later as AG handled the appeal and made sure the execution was carried out. It was the first time a white man had been executed for a crime against an African American since 1913.

    The case also led to a $7 million judgement against the KKK in a civil suit.The conviction ruined the Klan in Alabama.

    While you read those 500 pages I'm sure you'll come across the testimony of the lawyers from the Justice Department's civil-rights division who worked the Hays case with him and testified on his behalf.

    So repeat the unfounded smears . They have already been debunked.
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    #34

    May 8, 2009, 05:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Leviston View Post
    As i said before it is a waste of my time to be dealing with people like you
    People like who? Have you looked in the mirror lately?
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    #35

    May 8, 2009, 07:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    People like who? Have you looked in the mirror lately?
    Yes I have and I like what I see, why do you ask??
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    #36

    May 8, 2009, 07:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello tom:

    Snicker.... Guffaw.... Bwa, ha ha ha. You guys are ridiculous.

    excon

    Shhhhhh... I think I LIKE them... lol...
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    #37

    May 8, 2009, 09:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by IWHO View Post
    I think I LIKE them
    Hello I:

    I like 'em too. I'd like 'em better if they agreed with me.

    excon
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    #38

    May 9, 2009, 04:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello I:

    I like 'em too. I'd like 'em better if they agreed with me.

    excon
    Now what fun would that be?
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    #39

    May 9, 2009, 09:05 AM
    Sweet inconsistency! How fair thou art, beloved by multitudes.

    You can get your shorts in a wad if you think someone might get a position in this administration if there is any hint of racism in his background.

    You are quite comfortable with the appointment of anyone who favors abortion, gun confiscation, or giving huge sums of money to failed businesses.

    Go figure!

    Edit: Oh, WAIT! That was a Republican thing. You don't approve? What a surprise!
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    #40

    May 9, 2009, 09:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Now what fun would that be?
    Yeah, that's what I say... lol

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