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  • May 8, 2009, 03:19 AM
    Leviston
    GOP Appoints Racist to Judiciary Committee
    GOP Appoints Racist to Judiciary Committee

    On Tuesday, the GOP announced that Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) will replace Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter (Republican now turned Democrat) as the head of the Senate Judiciary Committee. This Judiciary Committee is responsible for approving judicial nominees - most importantly - Supreme Court nominees.



    --a black former assistant U.S. Attorney in Alabama named Thomas Figures--testified that, during a 1981 murder investigation involving the Ku Klux Klan, Sessions was heard by several colleagues commenting that he "used to think they [the Klan] were OK" until he found out some of them were "pot smokers

    Sessions had called a white civil rights lawyer a "disgrace to his race" for litigating voting rights cases.

    Senate Democrats tracked down a career Justice Department employee named J. Gerald Hebert, who testified, albeit reluctantly, that in a conversation between the two men Sessions had labeled the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) "un-American" and "Communist-inspired." Hebert said Sessions had claimed these groups "forced civil rights down the throats of people."
  • May 8, 2009, 04:06 AM
    tomder55
    I see you are taking talking points from the moonbat blogs . You see;it's their strategery . If he opposes Obama's nominee to SCOTUS they can preemptively shout "RACIST " and that will automatically diminish his objections.

    But you see ;their slime is already discreditted with the fact that he voted in favor of Eric Holder. WHAT?? A Racist voting for a black Sec Dept. of Justice?? Who'da thunk it ?

    The truth is that he is fair minded and will give a decent respect to whoever is nominated regardless of race .He will certainly give a fairer hearing than Clarence Thomas got from the Dems. They committed character assassination against him. They threw the race card at Sam Alito also .It's their MO .

    Sessions knows full well what a nominee is subject to under the Dems Q and A because they used these old out of context smears against him in his 1986 bid for a federal judgeship . In all the confirmations hearings he has done since he became a Senator he has conducted himself with the class that the Dems in the Senate can only dream about.

    By the way Sessions was already on the committee. You mean he was named Ranking member.
    Also since the Dems are in power he is the ranking minority member .
    Sen. Pat Lehey is the "head " of the committee... or as they like to call it the "Chairman". Leahy is the meanest, most partisan, most ruthless most vicious Democrat in the Senate.But the good news is that when the Republicans regain the majority next year,Session will be the Committee Chair.
  • May 8, 2009, 04:49 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I see you are taking talking points from the moonbat blogs .

    People in glass houses...
  • May 8, 2009, 05:14 AM
    tomder55

    Correct . I frequently surf moonbat blogs and read the NY Slimes to deconstruct their pablum.
  • May 8, 2009, 05:16 AM
    NeedKarma
    You know what I meant tommy. :)
  • May 8, 2009, 06:16 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The truth is that he is fair minded and will give a decent respect to whoever is nominated regardless of race .

    Hello tom:

    Snicker... Guffaw... Bwa, ha ha ha. You guys are ridiculous.

    excon
  • May 8, 2009, 06:26 AM
    tomder55
    The only time I have ever seen a black candidate ridiculed and mistreated in the Judiciary Committee hearings was by the Dems...

    Sessions was slimed during his hearings and his record distorted . He filed 20-30 civil rights lawsuits to desegregate schools in his time.

    DEM Sen Specter was a Republican who voted against Sessions during his hearings. Later Specter said :
    "My vote against candidate Sessions for the federal court was a mistake because I have since found that Sen. Sessions is egalitarian"

    Sessions says the following about the coming hearings :
    "I think we have a high responsibility to base any criticisms that we have on a fair and honest statement of the facts, and that nominees should not be subjected to distortions of their record, taking things they've done out of context,"

    He knows because he experienced Democrat slime 1st hand.
  • May 8, 2009, 07:15 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The truth is that he is fair minded and will give a decent respect to whoever is nominated regardless of race .

    Hello again, tom:

    Here's some stuff about your "fair minded" racist a$$hole. He's NEVER backed off from ANY statement.

    A career Justice Department employee named J. Gerald Hebert, who testified, albeit reluctantly, that in a conversation between the two men Sessions had labeled the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) "un-American" and "Communist-inspired." Hebert said Sessions had claimed these groups "forced civil rights down the throats of people."

    In his confirmation hearings, Sessions sealed his own fate by saying such groups could be construed as "un-American" when "they involve themselves in promoting un-American positions" in foreign policy. Hebert testified that the young lawyer tended to "pop off" on such topics regularly, noting that Sessions had called a white civil rights lawyer a "disgrace to his race" for litigating voting rights cases.

    Sessions acknowledged making many of the statements attributed to him but claimed that most of the time he had been joking, saying he was sometimes "loose with [his] tongue." He further admitted to calling the Voting Rights Act of 1965 a "piece of intrusive legislation," a phrase he stood behind even in his confirmation hearings.

    It got worse. Another damaging witness--a black former assistant U.S. Attorney in Alabama named Thomas Figures--testified that, during a 1981 murder investigation involving the Ku Klux Klan, Sessions was heard by several colleagues commenting that he "used to think they [the Klan] were OK" until he found out some of them were "pot smokers." Sessions claimed the comment was clearly said in jest. Figures didn't see it that way. Sessions, he said, had called him "boy" and, after overhearing him chastise a secretary, warned him to "be careful what you say to white folks." Figures echoed Hebert's claims, saying he too had heard Sessions call various civil rights organizations, including the National Council of Churches and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, "un-American." Sessions denied the accusations but again admitted to frequently joking in an off-color sort of way. In his defense, he said he was not a racist, pointing out that his children went to integrated schools and that he had shared a hotel room with a black attorney several times.

    I'm not surprised YOU dodo's think he's " Sessions denied the accusations but again admitted to frequently joking in an off-color sort of way. In his defense, he said he was not a racist, pointing out that his children went to integrated schools and that he had shared a hotel room with a black attorney several times.

    I'm not surprised YOU dodo's think he's ".

    excon
  • May 8, 2009, 07:35 AM
    tomder55

    all you just did was restate the op . And all that is a rehashing of 26 year old smears against him dredged up recently by the Guardian and later Politico. The closest he has ever come to saying something nice about the KKK was saying good morning the Sen Robert Byrd.(his past is easily dismissed )

    It is an undeniable fact the Sessions ; the racist a$$hole;not only voted for Eric Holder but openly supported his nomination .
    I see just another Alinsky style smear happening here. It is now standard DEM playbook.
    Tea parties = racist
    Accuse ACORN of voter fraud = racist
    Obama spends too much money= racist

    the tactic is getting old and boring already .
  • May 8, 2009, 07:36 AM
    ETWolverine

    You're right, Leviston. The GOP has appointed a "racist" as GOP leader of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Let's leave aside the fact that this "racist" has a 56% approval rating among his constituency, which ain't too bad for anyone, much less a "racist". (Consider that Congress as a whole has a 29% approval rating.) Let's also not consider that he was next in line in terms of seniority for the position, and that you have to hae a pretty compelling reason to eliminate him from contension for the position if he's most senior.

    Let's instead focus on the fact that someone once said that he said he supports the KKK except for their drug use. The allegation has, of course, never been proven.

    Let's also focus on the fact that he once investigated the ACLU and the NAACP for voter fraud. Let's also leave aside the question of whether there actually WAS voter fraud.

    Let's find every possible thing we can to support an argument of racism, regardless of reality.

    Somehow, this "racist" keeps getting elected in general elections.

    Whatever. The GOP are a bunch of racists. And Churchgoers are in favor of torture. And anything that isn't liberal is evil, unfair, immoral, and to be rejected.

    Peekaboo, I see you, Leviston.
  • May 8, 2009, 07:38 AM
    speechlesstx
    I've said many times that I don't blame Cheney for telling Leahy to "f*** off." I'm sure Leahy earned it.

    I visit moonbat blogs, too. I also visit Hotair, Atlas Shrugs, Power Line and others. So what. I don't just copy the talking points down and I give credit where credit is due. By the way, here is Ex's TNR article. :D
  • May 8, 2009, 07:45 AM
    excon

    Hello Elliot:

    Like a minnow who swims among the sharks, a Jew who supports racists has to tread very carefully or he'll be eaten himself.

    excon
  • May 8, 2009, 07:49 AM
    ETWolverine

    Excon,

    A JEW always has to tread carefully, regardless of who is in the water with him. But Jews also have a very finely tune "racism sensor". We can tell racism from bull$h!t accusations. Well, some of us can... I have my doubts about Abe Foxman at the ADL.
  • May 8, 2009, 07:51 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ETWolverine View Post
    A JEW always has to tread carefully, regardless of who is in the water with him.

    Why?
  • May 8, 2009, 08:08 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Why?

    History.

    Historically speaking, we have been attacked by our "friends" just as much as our enemies.

    For instance, from the early 1800s until 1927, Jews in Germany were a very welcomed group. We were among the most successful people in the country. Our input, both economic and scientific, was highly accepted and sought after. We had become among the highest members of German society.

    In fact, the Reform Movement within Judaism started in Germany because German Jews wanted to join the German army in order to be good Germans. The food they were able to eat was limited because of kosher law, and so they always had problems getting enough protein. However, beans were kosher, and became a major staple of the Jewish German soldier's diet. The problem was that on Passover, beans are Rabinically prohibbited (the term is "kitnyot"). The soldiers appealed to their Rabbis for a dispensation to allow them to eat beans during Passover so that they could be good soldiers and fight for the motherland. The Rabbis denied their request on the basis of Halacha (Jewish Law). These soldiers were not satisfied, and broke off from the mainstream Orthodoxy of Judaism, and Reform Judaism was born.

    My point is that Jews were a welcome part of German society, and considered themselves the friends of German. Moreover, they believed that Germany was friendly to THEM.

    That friendliness bit them on the butt big-time when a former Private in the German Military got elected and started persecuting the Jews, sending them first to ghettos, then work camps, and eventually death camps for mass slaughter. The thought of most German Jews at the time was that it wasn't real... Germany really loved them... this Hitler guy wasn't serious... it was all just a fad and it would pass as the economy improved. They believed right up until the end that Germany was really their friend.

    THAT (and many other historical examples) is why any Jew who has a basic inkling of his own national history treads very carefully among others... even those who seem to be his friends. It is also why we have a very well-trained racism and anti-semitism sensor. It's a matter of national survival.

    Elliot
  • May 8, 2009, 08:13 AM
    NeedKarma
    Ah yes, the persecution complex.
  • May 8, 2009, 08:20 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ETWolverine View Post
    THAT (and many other historical examples) is why any Jew who has a basic inkling of his own national history treads very carefully among others... even those who seem to be his friends. It is also why we have a very well-trained racism and anti-semitism sensor. It's a matter of national survival.

    Hello again:

    The Wolverine and I don't disagree on this point. That's why I question his support for a southern religious racist..

    If it's because evangelical Christians support the state of Israel, he should know that the only reason a southern Christian supports Israel, is because the idea of Jewish state supports their view of the end times.

    In the "end", however, the Jews are kicked to the curb, as usual...

    excon
  • May 8, 2009, 08:30 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Ah yes, the persecution complex.

    Um, if you'd paid any attention to the last election you would have seen the persecution complex displayed by many a black American. I think the Holocaust, the fact that the Jewish state is surrounded by Arabs that want them exterminated and Jews around the world live among an increasing Muslim population that openly thinks of them as apes and pigs is plenty enough reason to want to watch your back if you're Jewish.
  • May 8, 2009, 08:42 AM
    NeedKarma
    But you're in the US.
  • May 8, 2009, 08:45 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Ah yes, the persecution complex.

    No, not really. I don't consider myself persecuted in the USA.

    (Although I find it interesting that Blacks, which constitute 14% of the American population are considered a minority, Hispanics, which constitute about 20% of the US population are considered a minority, but Jews, which are about 1% of the US population are not considered a minority. But that is a discussion for another time.)

    But I stay aware of the goings-on around me because of my family and national history. It's a survival trait that has served us fairly well through the past 2 millennia.

    A "complex" indicates a psychological condition that results in an irrational thought pattern that has no basis in reality. A psychological illness, if you will. This isn't a "complex" because there is an historical reality on which it is based, and it is a rational protective reation to that historical reality. NOT learning the lessons of our past would constitute a "complex".

    Like if a person gets robbed on the street every day and never changes the route he uses to walk home to avoid getting robbed, you have to wonder why he isn't learning from his past in order to protect himself.

    Another aspect of this historical background is the Jewish ability to, within a generation of coming to a new country, be able to blend in with the people around them, become successful members of the society and make a good life for ourselves. The ability of the families of Holocaust Survivors to integrate into American society, become lawyers, doctors, businessmen, and high-level politicians within a single generation is not something that every culture can accomplish.

    My family did it in less than one generation. My father is a nationalized citizen (he came here at the age of three, having been born in a German DP camp), but he is an attorney, a successful money manager and real estate owner, and fairly well to do. My brother is a doctor (MD, Radiology), my sister is a high school AP science teacher, and I'm a banker. We have become successful in this country within a single generation because of an ethic that was built out of a history of being thrown out of country after country and having to start over again many times throughout our history.

    It's not a complex... it's an ethic of survival and success that drives us.

    Elliot

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