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    Feb 27, 2009, 10:34 AM
    Furnace Problems
    My furnace stopped coming on when it was supposed to. I have replaced the ignitor and the thermostat. It comes on blowing hot air and the house gets warm then it won't come on for almost another hour when the house is freezing by then. If it is sixty in the house it should come on when I set it to 65 but I have to crank it all the way up. What can I do to fix this.
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    Feb 27, 2009, 12:42 PM

    Brand,model#,year?

    Need this information.

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    Feb 27, 2009, 04:49 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mower_man View Post
    Brand,model#,year?

    need this information.

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    You don't need that info MM... use the force!:D
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    Feb 27, 2009, 05:00 PM

    What type of thermostat do you have? Does the furnace work every time you crank the thermostat up? If so. I would say you have a bad thermostat or the heat cycle setting is incorrect. Or, if mercury, it may be out of level and be in need of heat anticipator adjustment. Can you take a pic of the thermostat with the cover on and off. If you have replaced the thermostat with a NEW one, then you most likely don't have a mercury stat. Please let us know what you have, and we will try to help further.

    KC. What is this force you speak of, and were can I get it. Would really help in my day to day dutys.
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    Feb 27, 2009, 05:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mower_man View Post
    Brand,model#,year?

    need this information.

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    Brand: Payne
    Model: PG9MAA036080
    I don't know the year
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    Feb 27, 2009, 05:23 PM

    OK,check the thermostat,what type of t-stat do you have?

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    Feb 27, 2009, 05:25 PM

    If the furnace works when you crank the thermostat up. Then the problem is most likely not in the furnace. It is in the thermostat which tells the furnace to come on. One way to make sure is to jump r and w at the furnace board when temp is cold in the house. If when you jump r and w, the furnace comes on, then you definitely have a problem with thermostat or thermostat wires. May be as simple as changing some settings on the new thermostat. Please let me know if this appears to be a thermostat problem, or if you suspect other problems. You say you replaced thermostat. Did it make any difference at all? Or does the furnace do exactly the same thing. If no change at all, then I would be led to believe it is something inside furnace. Please try the r w jump test and let me know what you find.
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    Feb 27, 2009, 05:29 PM

    The problem is most likely the t-stat.

    Post a pic.

    Is it:mercury,programmable,non-programable?

    What brand of t-stat?

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    Feb 27, 2009, 06:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mower_man View Post
    the problem is most likely the t-stat.

    post a pic.

    is it:mercury,programable,non-programable?

    what brand of t-stat?

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    It is a nonprgrammable round thermostat. Heat only.
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    Feb 27, 2009, 06:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mygirlsdad77 View Post
    what type of thermostat do you have? Does the furnace work every time you crank the thermostat up? if so. i would say you have a bad thermostat or the heat cycle setting is incorrect. Or, if mercury, it may be out of level and be in need of heat anticipator adjustment. Can you take a pic of the thermostat with the cover on and off. If you have replaced the thermostat with a NEW one, then you most likely dont have a mercury stat. Please let us know what you have, and we will try to help further.

    KC. What is this force you speak of, and were can i get it. would really help in my day to day dutys.
    It is a heat only non programmable round thermostat. I don't know if it has mercury but it does have to be leveled.How do I jump the R and W wires?
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    Feb 27, 2009, 06:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by mower_man View Post
    OK,check the thermostat,what type of t-stat do you have?

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    What is the t stat?
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    Feb 28, 2009, 06:52 AM

    t stat=thermostat
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    Feb 28, 2009, 07:41 AM
    This unit should have a status LED. Have you checked it for "activity" yet? Look inside the front panel for a label titled "SERVICE". P.S. The "Force" is the universal energy blah blah blah so you know the brand and model just by reading the blah blah blah.
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    Feb 28, 2009, 08:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by mower_man View Post
    t stat=thermostat
    It is a round non programmable I don't know if it has mercury but it has to be leveled
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    Feb 28, 2009, 08:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by KC13 View Post
    This unit should have a status LED. Have you checked it for "activity" yet? Look inside the front panel for a label titled "SERVICE". P.S. The "Force" is the universal energy blah blah blah so you know the brand and model just by reading the blah blah blah.
    If you are talking about the furnace led it does come on and gives me a code which tells me it can be 15 different thing s that I don't know what they are.should I name them all off to you
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    Feb 28, 2009, 08:59 AM
    Find the label titled "SERVICE" and follow the instructions.
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    Feb 28, 2009, 09:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by KC13 View Post
    Find the label titled "SERVICE" and follow the instructions.
    It doesn't give me any instructions if I knew what it was talking about I wouldn't be on this website, your force and your answers aren't helping me at all
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    Feb 28, 2009, 09:18 AM
    Okay... the status light will flash a pattern to display a 2-digit number, the first digit is the short flashes and the second digit is the long flashes. Example: three short, pause, four long, pause, = 34. Pattern will repeat.
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    Feb 28, 2009, 09:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by KC13 View Post
    Okay...the status light will flash a pattern to display a 2-digit number, the first digit is the short flashes and the second digit is the long flashes. Example: three short, pause, four long, pause, = 34. Pattern will repeat.
    I know that and it is number 31 and that suggests like 10 different things, would it be easier if I named them to you
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    Feb 28, 2009, 09:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by DB414 View Post
    It doesn't give me any instructions if I knew what it was talking about I wouldn't be on this website, your force and your answers aren't helping me at all


    Call someone, spend your money,we need answers to help you
    When you go to the docter,you pay him ,and he asks you what is wrong with you. We need a little ifo. In order to help you

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