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    #21

    Jan 26, 2009, 12:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by George_1950 View Post
    Will you define, "stifled", and how you would see this done, considering the First Amendment and that heretofore, the U.S. is primarily a country of private property rights and free enterprise?
    You're right. He is allowed to speak his opinion. It's just a business.
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    #22

    Jan 26, 2009, 12:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    ...It's just a business.
    You mean, "The business of America is business"?
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    #23

    Jan 26, 2009, 12:35 PM
    No I mean he spews crap for ratings.
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    #24

    Jan 26, 2009, 01:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    No I mean he spews crap for ratings.
    You fell right into the trap there, NK. Your little Youtube videos don't support your contention he just fosters "hatred and divisiness" and "spews crap." It just shows how little you actually know about the man and what he says.
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    #25

    Jan 26, 2009, 03:23 PM
    Well if he a hero of yours then I don't know what to say.
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    #26

    Jan 26, 2009, 04:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, George:

    Is THAT what you think they're mad at???? Dude! They're not angry about the FIX. They're bummed that it got broke.

    excon
    Fix? What Fix? You seem to be under the mistaken impression that what is wrong can be fixed by throwing truck loads of money at the problem.

    You should really change that "Kool Aid" quote of yours.
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    #27

    Jan 26, 2009, 04:04 PM

    So Rush wants Obama's policies to fail. Given the fact that he has come down squarely on the side of death, perversion, censorship, and Keynesian economic policy, I think you will find a lot of people in this country that would like to see his policies fail.
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    #28

    Jan 26, 2009, 04:05 PM

    Thank God! This bickering is really getting out of hand.
    Congress has run this country into the ground starting back in about 1976 when that peanut farmer signed a bill promoting housing loans to people that did not have a prayer of paying for. Then in about 1992 the next "I didn't inhale" and his even dumber janet reno forced the lending institutions to further reduce their lending requirements for people. Thereby allowing more junk loans to come on the market. Now, you have those really badly run federal businesses freddy and fanny who lied through their corporate teeth to pad the bottom line for hugh bonesus for the execs. All with the over site of the likes of barnie frank, nancy pelosi, harry reid and the rest of congress. NOW they are again pulling the dollar signs over the eyes of americans telling them that they need a trillion dollars to fix the problem that they created in the first place. All of this money of course with no accountability and a new treasury secretary that is sooo smart he cannot even pay his own taxes! Yea, we are in a new era in Washington all right!

    If you can believe that I have a bridge in San Francisco to sell you real cheep!
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    #29

    Jan 26, 2009, 07:19 PM

    What I find frightening is that the president is going after a citizen, so he is a talk show ( SHOW! ) host, he is entitled to his opinion! Don't like what he says, DON'T listen! What will be next, jack booted thugs ( speech police ) coming to your door for improper speech!
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    #30

    Jan 27, 2009, 07:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Well if he a hero of yours then I don't know what to say.
    Since he isn't a hero of mine maybe you can think of something.
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    #31

    Jan 27, 2009, 07:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by biguy49 View Post
    What will be next, jack booted thugs ( speech police ) coming to your door for improper speech!
    Hello big:

    Yes. Obama has started the United States Jack Booted Thug Agency for Non Conforming Speech. They're under Homeland Security. They'll be stationed at Fox and the limp ones studio.

    Only LIBERAL speech is going to be allowed from here on in.

    excon
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    #32

    Jan 27, 2009, 03:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello big:

    Yes. Obama has started the United States Jack Booted Thug Agency for Non Conforming Speech. They're under Homeland Security. They'll be stationed at Fox and the limp ones studio.

    Only LIBERAL speech is gonna be allowed from here on in.

    excon
    You think you're joking, right? You ARE joking aren't you?

    Maybe not!
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    #33

    Jan 27, 2009, 04:03 PM

    Why not ? I see a European model of hate speech and censorship coming down the 'pike .Just ask Geert Wilders in Holland .

    Oh I don't see the "fairness doctrine" happening because the libs would be censored also . Instead they plan on breaking up syndication and "monopolies" like Westwood One .They will initiate a local content ruling where stations will be obliged to air local content that covers a "diverse " cross section of the communities.
    Obama radio critic finds talk show time slashed
    This may have been the 1st salvo this year but as I recall ,radio hosts were getting a lot of flap over their opposition to "the chosen" during the campaign.
    Henry Rivera, a former commissioner of the FCC will head PresidentObama's FCC transition team. He will ultimately replace a retiring Republican and give the FCC a Democrat majority . At that point the assault on free speech will really begin.
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    #34

    Jan 28, 2009, 11:34 AM

    As for Rush wanting President Obama to fail I refer you to this 2001 editorial by MSM pundit EJ Dionne... before President Bush was even sworn in.

    Editorials & Opinion | Democrats begin waiting for George W. Bush to fail | Seattle Times Newspaper


    Among Democrats, there are two views as to how to pull this off now. The popular view is the one that looks to Bush making mistakes and, perhaps, to an economic downturn that will make swing voters long for the days of Democratic prosperity under Clinton.
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    #35

    Jan 28, 2009, 12:08 PM
    Speaking of Rush, the Dems have followed Obama's lead in telling people not to listen to him and fired another salvo his way with a stupid petition. Here's the link where all the free speech advocates can tell Rush to shut up. Rush's response to all this?

    Your publication and website have documented Obama's ties to the teachings of Saul Alinksy while he was community organizing in Chicago. Rule 13 of Alinksy’s "Rules for Radicals":

    “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
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    #36

    Jan 28, 2009, 12:41 PM

    The last time they tried this Harry Reid sent Rush a letter because Rush had made some comments about " fake soldiers " that the Dems took out of content.

    Rush put the letter on E-Bay and raised over $ 1 million.. that he matched dollar for dollar and contributed to the Marine Corp Foundation.
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    #37

    Jan 28, 2009, 03:37 PM

    The Dems are hosting a blog with their petition drive with comments that are far more offensive than what Rush says. Typical ain't it?
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    #38

    Jan 28, 2009, 03:52 PM

    K, I'm not really sure what you are all on about, but I think it has to do with "freedom of Speech"?

    Freedom is a tricky word, because with freedom comes responsibility. One way or another you will face the consequences of your actions, good or bad. If you are not responsible, then freedom will crumble under what ever stresses are upon it.

    Question: Are we free?

    Peace and kindness.

    P.S. Sorry, I know it's more of a Philosophical question, but I was just curious what you all think. Thanks!
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    #39

    Jan 28, 2009, 04:31 PM

    Rush's Koolaid Stand is long overdue an inspection by health and human services.

    The constant mantra designed to somehow make American's accept that anything that is good for business is good for America has helped create a larger disparity between rich and poor, given America the distinction of having the largest child poverty rate in the developed world despite being the richest country and has seen the minimum wage be frozen for much of the Bush Presidency.

    All in the name of more money to the rich will trickle down to the rest of us. Well, a lot of that money has moved American jobs to China, India, Mexico; etc.. Corporations are not loyal to America, they are loyal to their bottom line. The bottom line however does not mean sacrifices at the top, those Bush tax breaks were they put aside for a rainy day, no, they lined their pockets with yearly bonuses until the downturn in the economy and now the little guy is being laid off in corporate cutbacks.

    Everyone is sick of the Rush's Koolaid.
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    #40

    Jan 28, 2009, 08:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by TexasParent View Post
    Rush's Koolaid Stand is long overdue an inspection by health and human services.

    The constant mantra designed to somehow make American's accept that anything that is good for business is good for America has helped create a larger disparity between rich and poor, given America the distinction of having the largest child poverty rate in the developed world despite being the richest country and has seen the minimum wage be frozen for much of the Bush Presidency.

    All in the name of more money to the rich will trickle down to the rest of us. Well, alot of that money has moved American jobs to China, India, Mexico; etc.. Corporations are not loyal to America, they are loyal to their bottom line....
    You are living under a rock, right? Limbaugh, like the New York Times, is protected by the 1st Amendment, right? America is about freedom and business, right? Private property, right? Child poverty is Bush's fault? You've heard of teenage pregnancy and the epidemic of unwed mothers? Corporations are not yet mere tools of American Nazis; they should be loyal to their owners, the shareholders, right? Businesses move off-shore because of high taxes and exorbitant regulations, including the minimum wage.

    You wouldn't happen to teach in a public school, would you?

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