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Jan 24, 2009, 02:45 PM
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We just had a general election and look what WE got!
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Jan 25, 2009, 03:15 AM
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Europe it appears is in worse shape (so far) . AP is reporting that the EU may become a casualty.
Latvia, Lithuania and Bulgaria have suffered street clashes amid a toxic brew of sagging economies and local concerns in recent days. In Greece, Athens was rocked again Thursday by another riot following a protest against an attack on a trade unionist. …
So far, Europe's major economies have escaped unrest, but the European Commission has indicated that it is keeping a close eye on developments. The International Monetary Fund's managing director Dominque Strauss-Kahn of France told the BBC earlier this week that more unrest could occur almost anywhere. “It can be in my own country (France), it can be in U.K. it can be Germany, it can be in eastern Europe,” he said. …
“Adjustment in the overvalued euro economies (Italy grossly, Spain moderately) will be much more painful, and Italy's possible exit from the euro augurs for years of crisis,” said Charles Dumas, an analyst at Lombard Street Research.
The Associated Press: Crisis weighs ever heavier in Europe
Just can't figure out why the public would be losing confidence in leadership who's imagination consists of throwing more money at the problem !
Europe of course is the canary in the mine for the US . Our new POTUS has thoughts of a Fabian state here expedited by Executive Order.When he sees the receding tide sea level drop it won't be reversing climate change.It will be the precursor to the tsunami.
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Jan 25, 2009, 03:40 AM
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That's horrible. My prayers and thoughts for all those innocents affected.
If only I had more power.. I could change the world.
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Jan 25, 2009, 04:39 AM
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Jan 25, 2009, 04:50 AM
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Show the way George, create the uprising and take to arms!
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Jan 25, 2009, 05:09 AM
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 Originally Posted by George_1950
Is it time for Americans to take to the streets?
Hello George:
YOU BETCHA!!
But, wait a minute... Who are we going to be demonstrating against?? WHAT are we going to be demonstrating for??
Dude, I'm all for demonstrating... I LOVE a parade... I LOVE to show my disdain for the status quo... Dissent IS patriotic, isn't it?? (Unless, of course, you're demonstrating against the war in Iraq... THEN you're a traitor... snicker, snicker)
By the way, what did you think about those gay people who demonstrated against Prop 8 in California... I'll bet you looked at them with disgust, all prancing around in pink tights and stuff...
So, I'm all ready to take to the streets... But, before I do, who are we mad at again??
excon
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Jan 25, 2009, 03:05 PM
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There aren't enough Americans left (on either side) with the spines to take to the streets for ANYTHING and accomplish their goals.
Not even a general labor strike, which should be peaceful enough.
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Jan 26, 2009, 06:21 AM
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Dissent is no longer patriotic . It's now very important that “we all come together.”
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Jan 26, 2009, 06:42 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
Dissent is no longer patriotic . It's now very important that “we all come together.”
Huh?
"Mr Obama has told Republicans in Washington to stop listening to the right-wing talk show host Rush Limbaugh, risking a new culture war with conservative voters...
"After less than a week in office, Mr Obama's presidency is already encountering the very partisan bickering he had pledged to stamp out during his first 100 days.
"He faces mounting criticism over his $825 billion economic stimulus plan, from Republican leaders who say the legislation has been drawn up without the input which Mr Obama had promised to allow them.
"The president responded with a clear signal that he is prepared to ram the bill through without the bipartisan consensus he promised to construct, telling Republican leaders from the House of Representatives: "I won. I'm the president."
Barack Obama picks a fight with Rush Limbaugh as bipartisan spirit crumbles - Telegraph
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Jan 26, 2009, 07:01 AM
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 Originally Posted by George_1950
"Mr Obama has told Republicans in Washington to stop listening to the right-wing talk show host Rush Limbaugh, risking a new culture war with conservative voters...
Hello again, George:
I don't know. It was the limp one who said that he wanted Obama to "fail"! I heard him. Sounds like Limprod is continuing the culture war, no? Wouldn't you tell people NOT to listen to him, if you were Obama?? I think you would...
I'm not sure WHICH input you think the Republicans should have. A major part of the stimulus package includes TAX CUTS. Isn't THAT good enough?? I think it's a pretty magnanimus gesture towards the right. Specially, since he DID win.
excon
PS> I remember a fella by the name of Tom DeLay. They called him the hammer didn't they?? Did HE ram through stuff for Bush?? He DID. Did he make ANY magnanimus gestures toward the Dems?? Yes, he did - WITH HIS MIDDLE FINGER!
Poor, poor Republicans... Your memory is soooo short..
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Jan 26, 2009, 07:02 AM
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Rush doesn't even believe what he says, he's in it for the money. Anyone who listens to him is having the wool pulled over their eyes.
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Jan 26, 2009, 07:53 AM
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Correct . Rush is an entertainer .He doesn't take this stuff serious at all.
Remember the "fake troops " flap ? Harry Reid went nuts and fired off a letter demanding an apology for the troops . Rush instead auctioned off the letter on E-Bay for charitible donation for the troops . It went for over $1million,which Rush matched dollar for dollar .
It's amazing that the Dems take him so seriously... actually no it isn't . Now that they don't have Karl Rove and Cheney they need a face to pin as evil .
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Jan 26, 2009, 07:55 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
correct . Rush is an entertainer .He doesn't take this stuff serious at all. ...It's amazing that the Dems take him so seriously .....actually no it isn't . Now that they don't have Karl Rove and Cheney they need a face to pin as evil .
He foster hatred and divisiness, why wouldn't anyone want him stifled?
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Jan 26, 2009, 08:02 AM
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No more so than any of the Air America personalities.
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Jan 26, 2009, 10:24 AM
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Let's not digress. Isn't it interesting that East Europeans are protesting about their countries' return to 'the era of big government', when that era just expired less than 20 years ago? People have a right to express their opinions on socialism, arising from either the back door or front door, do they not?
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Jan 26, 2009, 10:53 AM
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 Originally Posted by George_1950
Isn't it interesting that East Europeans are protesting about their countries' return to 'the era of big government
Hello again, George:
Is THAT what you think they're mad at?? Dude! They're not angry about the FIX. They're bummed that it got broke.
excon
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Jan 26, 2009, 11:29 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
He foster hatred and divisiness, why wouldn't anyone want him stifled?
Spoken like someone who has never actually heard Rush and probably thinks Keith Olbermann is a voice of reason.
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Jan 26, 2009, 12:00 PM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
...why wouldn't anyone want him stifled?
Will you define, "stifled", and how you would see this done, considering the First Amendment and that heretofore, the U.S. is primarily a country of private property rights and free enterprise?
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Jan 26, 2009, 12:09 PM
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