[classyT]

I don't have my Bible with me right now... but I was reading last night in the gospels and I got the impression from Jesus' brief words on the subject that He considered re-marriage adultery too. Where did you find that Jesus grants remarriage in cases of adultery?

Check out Mathew 5:31. I googled it because I didn't have a Bible handy. If it IS the verse I am referring to.. he says it pretty clear.

[N0help4u]

Your husband was not loving you as Christ loves the church. He was living outside of Corinthians where it shows the chain the woman submits to the man BUT the man submits to God. How can you submit when the chain is broke? It says for women should submit to their husbands, the Bible also tells men several times how they are supposed to treat their wives. The husband is not to take on the role of the dictator, but show respect for his wife and her opinions as well. “In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as they love their own bodies. For a man is actually loving himself when he loves his wife. No one hates his own body but lovingly cares for it...” (Ephesians 5:28-29). “So I say again, each man must love his wife as he loves himself.

You say you have found out about his cheating so it only FURTHER proves you did the right thing.
The Bible says if the unbeliever leaves then you are free... by his behavior he left the marriage even though he did not do so officially by divorcing you.

[arcura]

I think you DO have grounds for a divorce called mental abuse, fear of harm to you and your child. Fir a parent to be in constant fear of harm to her/his child is a LOT of mental abuse.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[ironsheik7]

You divorced him because you feared for your life as well as your sons . God knows your heart you didn't leave him just for the hec of it . Or cause you got tired of him. Or wanted to go out and full around with other men... You did it because you have a good reason to . You feared for your life as well as your child's..

You can re marry . Under the circumstances of what happened from what Ive read I think god would be OK with it.

He wants man and woman to be truly happy. Take a look at adultry look at most people today they get married get tired of each other and move on and find someone else . Its as if marriage has just became a dating process till a person gets bored and moves on to the next . Trust me on this I'm starting to understand the lord pretty good of late . I think under the circumstances if your huband is a well wacko out to hurt you and children. God would be OK with you getn outa there. . Be happy re marry . The lord will understand your situation...

Second off your decission is between you and god . The church members have no say so in the matter. If they are pressuring you . You can always leave and find another church.
I don't know your church. But I do know certain churches for what ever reason think there all powerful and push around the followers to the extent they say you talk to who we tell you , you can talk to . Or if you don't do what we say we will take away your salvation and won't get it back till we let you have it back and if you happen to die before we decide to give you it back then god will punish you in hell. Jehova witnesses do this I've read . If a church tries to control you and psu you around. Leave and find another . The rev jimmy swaggart discussed this on TV before.

My advice move on and find you a nice christian man . Ever heard the saying what doesn't kill me only makes me stronger .

You should be a lot stronger after facing such a hardship as you have faced . Put your faith in the lord and everything will fall into place and be allright

[GirlWSlingshot]

Check out Mathew 5:31. I googled it because i didn't have a Bible handy. If it IS the verse I am referring to..he says it pretty clear.

It still sounds to me like Jesus is saying that remarriage is adultery. Can you explain where you read that Jesus accepts remarriage in cases of adultery?

[arcura]

GirlWSlingshot,
Yes that is what Jesus is saying.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[N0help4u]

The Bible says that if the non believer leaves then the other is free.
Even though you left physically, he left in his heart long before.
All I know is God knows our heart and he can and does forgive.
Look at David he committed adultery and then had Uriah killed, yet God said that David was a man after his own heart. WHY?
I believe that once we are freed in our spirit to really know and love God with a pure heart then we can understand the difference between that and licentiousness.

[JudyKayTee]

It still sounds to me like Jesus is saying that remarriage is adultery. Can you explain where you read that Jesus accepts remarriage in cases of adultery?

That's what I was taught - remarriage is adultery - but I have no references to back up any of this, if it is or if it isn't.

[De Maria]

It still sounds to me like Jesus is saying that remarriage is adultery. Can you explain where you read that Jesus accepts remarriage in cases of adultery?

If it's the one that most people quote me when defending remarriage, as we understand that verse, it is in cases of unmarried couples living together. The word used is "fornication".

Matthew 5:32
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Therefore, we believe the so-called "common law" marriages which are recognized by the State, are not true marriages in the eyes of God. They are cases of "fornication" and may be dissolved and the individuals are free to remarry.

[ironsheik7]

Yes Jesus is saying that remarriage is adultery unless the husband dies you can not re marry . And if a person messes round on you , you can divroce them . Yes according directly to the bible you can not re marry ever again slingshot or touch another man that's what it says . I said maybe Jesus would make an exeption in your case cause of what's happening... But if you want to stick to all scripture or nothing. Than even if he beats you you can not divorce him

But I can't see Jesus seting up in heaven saying I don't care if that man breaks your arms ,legs and hurts your child you will stay with him or I will burn you in hell fire...

Im not holding any punches you want an honest answer your getting one

I would suggest talking to some preachers and asking them for advice . A preacher is a certified man of god and knows more about gods will than us in this chat room. If you like I could ask some preachers if there is some kind of loop hole and some how you can pull this off be OK with god and get a new hubby. If not I bid you good day and a merry christmas

[arcura]

De Maria,
Very good.
You are right.
Fred

[JudyKayTee]

If you like I could ask some preachers if there is some kinda loop hole and some how you can pull this off be ok with god and get a new hubby. if not I bid you good day and a merry christmas

I don't think there "loopholes" when it comes to theology, religion, the Bible.

I don't know that this is the place for this but I am confused about the whole "matter of conscience" when it comes to the Roman Catholic Church.

About 3 years ago a prominent business man/politician in my area, divorced from first wife (Catholic marriage), separated from second wife (civil marriage), committed suicide. Big Roman Catholic funeral, burial in RC cemetery. When people questioned it the Bishop said that it's up to God to judge, that it's a matter of conscience, that it is not the job of people to make judgments. Bishop spoke of the "sin" of being judgmental, driving other people from the Church, with one's opinions and judgments. I've been searching for the article and will continue to see if I can find it.

I remember the "old days" when you couldn't have a RC funeral and be buried in a RC cemetery if you were living outside the faith.

Would OP's question be a matter of conscience?

[N0help4u]

I know many very strong Christians that are divorced and remarried.
I have to ask does God forgive divorce and remarriage?
I would think he can and does just as he does for any of our sins and short comings. He can forgive an adulterer, a murderer, and anything else so why not a Christian that made a bad choice in who they married?

[JudyKayTee]

I know many very strong Christians that are divorced and remarried.
I have to ask does God forgive divorce and remarriage?
I would think he can and does just as he does for any of our sins and short comings. He can forgive an adulterer, a murderer, and anything else so why not a Christian that made a bad choice in who they married?

That's pretty much where I was going - you just said it better!

[arcura]

JudyKayTee,
I know a person who was married in a civil ceremony who was divorced and wanted to married a Catholic.
He went through The Church red tape of getting the first marriage annulled as though it had never been and married the Catholic.
The lived happily ever after.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
.

[JudyKayTee]

JudyKayTee,
I know a person who was married in a civil ceremony who was divorced and wanted to married a Catholic.
He went through The Church red tape of getting the first marriage annuled as though it had never been and married the Catholic.
The lived happily ever after.
Peace and kindness,
Fred
.

I understand that the first marriage was never recognized by the Church. No problem. Glad they lived happily ever after.

What about God and forgiveness and a matter of conscience?

[arcura]

JudyKayTee.
That is up to God on what He forgives.
It is my understanding tat he forgives a confessed person who has remores and asks for forgiveness.
Peace and kindness,
Fred

[De Maria]

To this poster,

Quote:
Originally Posted by ironsheik7 View Post
If you like I could ask some preachers if there is some kind of loop hole and some how you can pull this off be OK with god and get a new hubby. If not I bid you good day and a merry christmas

You responded:

I don't think there "loopholes" when it comes to theology, religion, the Bible.

I don't know that this is the place for this but I am confused about the whole "matter of conscience" when it comes to the Roman Catholic Church.

About 3 years ago a prominent business man/politician in my area, divorced from first wife (Catholic marriage), separated from second wife (civil marriage), committed suicide. Big Roman Catholic funeral, burial in RC cemetery. When people questioned it the Bishop said that it's up to God to judge, that it's a matter of conscience, that it is not the job of people to make judgments. Bishop spoke of the "sin" of being judgmental, driving other people from the Church, with one's opinions and judgments. I've been searching for the article and will continue to see if I can find it.

I'm pretty sure Ironsheik is not representing the Catholic perspective.

I remember the "old days" when you couldn't have a RC funeral and be buried in a RC cemetery if you were living outside the faith.

Its still true today. I hope you find that story. If you do, make sure to double check the sources. Not everything that the Newspapers print is true.

Would OP's question be a matter of conscience?

I think it would be a matter of canon law. Here's a real good resource to contact on the matter.

Experts Answer Catholic Faith Questions on EWTN

However, since she isn't Catholic, she'll probably just be referred to her Church.

[arcura]

De Maria,
Very good.
I think the person with the divorce question is an Episcopal r Anglican.
Fred

[N0help4u]

I think we should see what Church the OP is referring to.