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    Dec 14, 2008, 05:36 PM

    Faith in whatever you are searching for,whatever higher power,requires WORK!

    What good is faith in something else if you don't believe in yourself?

    Faith has to start from the inside to be able to grow.

    Living behind a self defeating attitude makes that kind of hard.

    So again I ask,when does this stop?How long is long enough for you to get the picture and make the change?

    You can wallow in the pit forever and you faith will never take it away,self perception is stopping you from seeing and seeking your faith with nothing more than self hate and contempt.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 05:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    Faith in whatever you are searching for,whatever higher power,requires WORK!

    What good is faith in something else if you don't believe in yourself?

    Faith has to start from the inside to be able to grow.

    Living behind a self defeating attitude makes that kind of hard.

    So again I ask,when does this stop?How long is long enough for you to get the picture and make the change?

    You can wallow in the pit forever and you faith will never take it away,self perception is stopping you from seeing and seeking your faith with nothing more than self hate and contempt.
    Your assuming that I hate myself, I don't nessesarily HATE myself, I hate the fact that I can't believe in god, I hate the fact that I get in fights at school, I hate the fact that I never told my ex I loved her, but its not 100 percent self pity
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    Dec 14, 2008, 05:45 PM

    So,what is stopping you from achieving your goals?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 05:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    So,what is stopping you from achieving your goals?
    Im a softmore in high school, I can't achieve my goals yet
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    Dec 14, 2008, 05:57 PM

    Another excuse.

    Goals aren't just for adults.

    How about achieving a goal of finding your faith?

    How about achieving a goal of getting better grades this semester?OR not getting mad at yourself,or others for a week.

    OR setting a goal to think in a better way,any way at all, for a day?Or an hour?

    A goal for getting rid of negativity in your life so the future will be there,and you can be a part of it?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 06:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    Another excuse.

    Goals aren't just for adults.

    How about achieving a goal of finding your faith?

    How about achieving a goal of getting better grades this semester?OR not getting mad at yourself,or others for a week.

    OR setting a goal to think in a better way,any way at all, for a day?Or an hour?

    A goal for getting rid of negativity in your life so the future will be there,and you can be a part of it?
    Can I ask you something?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 06:06 PM
    I asked you earlier if you had spoken with your pastor or youth minister. Have you?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 06:07 PM
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    I asked you earlier if you had spoken with your pastor or youth minister. Have you?
    I don't like religious officials
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    Dec 14, 2008, 06:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by AManWithNoName View Post
    I dont like religious officials
    Did you have a bad experience with one? Or is just in general?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 06:21 PM
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    Did you have a bad experience with one? Or is just in general?
    Both, kind of, I just don't like how they tell you what to do, tell what media is wrong, like god cares wheather or not I listen to rock and roll
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    Dec 14, 2008, 06:28 PM
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    Can i ask you something?
    Yes,that's why I am here.:)
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    #32

    Dec 14, 2008, 06:31 PM
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    Yes,that's why I am here.:)
    Why is that I couldn't tell my ex that I loved her, I really did, I like to compare tgings to music, this how she made me feel
    YouTube - Guns N' Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine: Version 2 Black And White
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    Dec 14, 2008, 06:36 PM
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    Both, kinda, i just dont like how they tell you what to do, tell what media is wrong, like god cares wheather or not i listen to rock and roll
    I agree with you totally about the music thing - that's a very strict stance. Maybe you need to find a new church. Try visiting one with a friend. Or ask your parents to go with you. Often we are raised going to a particular church and it is not at all the right church for us. This is a natural age for you question this.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 06:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jjwoodhull View Post
    I agree with you totally about the music thing - that's a very strict stance. Maybe you need to find a new church. Try visiting one with a friend. Or ask your parents to go with you. Often we are raised going to a particular church and it is not at all the right church for us. This is a natural age for you question this.
    I can't stand going to church
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    Dec 14, 2008, 06:37 PM

    Music always soothes the savage beast.

    If the music makes you remember feelings,try to have those memories of good things,not bad or negative ones.

    I know,I have the same affinity to the music and strong memories,for 10 years music was a very big part of my identity,it explained who and what I was about.

    After those 10 years the music brought heartache and pain.I stopped listening to the music I loved and began to listen to general BS music,that which I had no memories with.

    As to the other idea,you asked,how can you tell her your feelings when they were buried?

    Were you still aggravated or reactive to things?combative towards others?
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    #36

    Dec 14, 2008, 06:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by AManWithNoName View Post
    Why is that i couldnt tell my ex that i loved her, i really did, i like to compare tgings to music, this how she made me feel
    YouTube - Guns N' Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine: Version 2 Black And White
    Is your ex girlfriend the route of your depression? Maybe you were too shy to tell her or you were afraid of rejection. We all have regrets in life. The best thing you can do is learn a lesson and move forward. In the future, don't hesitate to open your heart to someone.
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    #37

    Dec 14, 2008, 06:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by KBC View Post
    Music always soothes the savage beast.

    If the music makes you remember feelings,try to have those memories of good things,not bad or negative ones.

    I know,I have the same affinity to the music and strong memories,for 10 years music was a very big part of my identity,it explained who and what I was about.

    After those 10 years the music brought heartache and pain.I stopped listening to the music I loved and began to listen to general BS music,that which I had no memories with.

    As to the other idea,you asked,how can you tell her your feelings when they were buried?

    Were you still aggravated or reactive to things?combative towards others?
    I was aggrivated, she was still talking to her ex, and after she dumped me she went right on back to him, and then I was combative, I kicked his @$$
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    Dec 14, 2008, 06:45 PM

    So you were still reactive and explosive towards the world,and the betrayal of her just added fuel to the fire.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 06:46 PM
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    So you were still reactive and explosive towards the world,and the betrayal of her just added fuel to the fire.
    Yeah
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    #40

    Dec 14, 2008, 06:52 PM

    Have you tried to forgive her?

    Have you ever tried to forgive yourself?

    This IS possible,both counts,the same way even,BUT! It requires a few things from you,effort is just the start of it.

    In order to forgive someone else,we must first forgive ourselves.

    Are you ready to try?

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