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Ultra Member
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Jul 31, 2008, 07:33 AM
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Another name gets added to the radical Obama associations!
It appears that they are still coming out of the woodwork.
Barrack Obama's buddy list just keeps growing.
Now, vulgar rapper Ludacris, praised by Obama in the past, now thrown under the bus.
I wonder who's next?
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Uber Member
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Jul 31, 2008, 07:51 AM
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I would say that is just ludacris
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Senior Member
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Jul 31, 2008, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by N0help4u
I would say that is just ludacris
Good one! :)
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Senior Member
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Jul 31, 2008, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by progunr
It appears that they are still coming out of the woodwork.
Barrack Obama's buddy list just keeps growing.
Now, vulgar rapper Ludacris, praised by Obama in the past, now thrown under the bus.
I wonder who's next?
Progunr, that's not exactly headline news. BTW his name is spelled "Barack." And since you seem to be hell bent on running a negative campaign against Obama, just who is that you want people to vote for??
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Jul 31, 2008, 03:05 PM
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Anyone but him, will be fine with me, and much better for the future of this Nation.
Sorry I misspelled his name.
NOT!
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Jul 31, 2008, 03:06 PM
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Actually Ludacris was thrown under the bus not so much that he supported Obama but that he 'dissed' Bush and McCain in the 'song' and so what else could Obama do? If he had left it go and looked like he endorsed it it would have been worse for him politically.
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Jul 31, 2008, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by N0help4u
Actually Ludacris was thrown under the bus not so much that he supported Obama but that he 'dissed' Bush and McCain in the 'song' and so what else could Obama do? If he had left it go and looked like he endorsed it it would have been worse for him politically.
Oh no no, you are so wrong here, it had nothing to do with Ludacris dissing anyone.
It had to do with his good friend, Barack Obama, who has praised him as an excellent businessman and even had him as an entertainer at one or more of his fund raisers, that caused him to be under the bus along with Wright, Flager and Ayers.
He knows that the video and audio is out there, and will be played, showing and hearing him speak so fondly of this guy.
He threw him under the bus, to save his own *$$ , just like the rest of them.
You seriously believe he did it, to stick up for Bush and McCain?? LOL
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Jul 31, 2008, 03:23 PM
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Yeah him being friends with the ones that Obama had to disown didn't help because if he doesn't cut all ties with Wright, Ayers and company then it looks bad for him but did you hear the lyrics to the song?
In the rap, the performer who was born Chris Bridges, calls the current president "the worst," refers to Clinton using a less than genteel definition of a female canine and mocks McCain's age and suggests he needs a wheelchair.
On The Politico.com, political blogger Ben Smith reports that the Obama camp is condemning the song. The site posted the following quote from Obama spokesperson Bill Burton: "As Barack Obama has said many, many times in the past, rap lyrics today too often perpetuate misogyny, materialism, and degrading images that he doesn't want his daughters or any children exposed to. This song is not only outrageously offensive to Senator Clinton, Reverend Jackson, Senator McCain, and President Bush, it is offensive to all of us who are trying to raise our children with the values we hold dear. While Ludacris is a talented individual he should be ashamed of these lyrics."
YouTube - Ludacris - Politics/Obama is Here (Freestyle) w/ lyrics
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Jul 31, 2008, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by waterpistol
Anyone but him, will be fine with me, and much better for the future of this Nation.
Sorry I misspelled his name.
NOT!
You're a self admitted habitual k'vetcher??
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Jul 31, 2008, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by N0help4u
Yeah him being friends with the ones that Obama had to disown didn't help because if he doesn't cut all ties with Wright, Ayers and company then it looks bad for him but did you hear the lyrics to the song?
In the rap, the performer who was born Chris Bridges, calls the current president "the worst," refers to Clinton using a less than genteel definition of a female canine and mocks McCain's age and suggests he needs a wheelchair.
On The Politico.com, political blogger Ben Smith reports that the Obama camp is condemning the song. The site posted the following quote from Obama spokesperson Bill Burton: "As Barack Obama has said many, many times in the past, rap lyrics today too often perpetuate misogyny, materialism, and degrading images that he doesn't want his daughters or any children exposed to. This song is not only outrageously offensive to Senator Clinton, Reverend Jackson, Senator McCain, and President Bush, it is offensive to all of us who are trying to raise our children with the values we hold dear. While Ludacris is a talented individual he should be ashamed of these lyrics."
YouTube - Ludacris - Politics/Obama is Here (Freestyle) w/ lyrics
Yeah, that all sounded real good didn't it?
Too bad he didn't recall telling his audience some time ago that his three year old daughter really liked a song by Snoop Dog with numerous N words, hoes, 's and other colorful words included. If I remember correctly, he even made a comment that "she thinks he is saying drop the socks".
He does seem to have a hard time remembering things that he has said in the past, as he speaks in the present.
Just words, just speeches...
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Jul 31, 2008, 03:41 PM
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Yeah I am not denying he flip flops to suit himself that is a for sure. Exactly why I didn't vote for Kerry.
I am sick of voting for lesser of two evils though so what are we left with?
Novotefromme is how I feel about the whole thing.
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Jul 31, 2008, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BABRAM
You're a self admitted habitual k'vetcher???
I didn't realize that pointing out all the negatives about your candidate would be viewed as complaining?
I'm not complaining at all, just shedding some conservative light on the socialist candidate.
If he manages to sneak his way into the White House, that is when the complaining will begin.
Until then, I'll just keep pointing out his negatives, which are plentiful.
Be honest, you were waiting for me to ask you what a k'vetcher was weren't you?
Actually, I've not seen the hyphen used in that term before, nor have I ever seen it used in the form of a noun.
Original.
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Senior Member
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Jul 31, 2008, 03:54 PM
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It's street slang Yiddish, otherwise known as Yiddlish. So when are you going to grow a set and tell the board who you are voting for??
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Ultra Member
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Jul 31, 2008, 03:56 PM
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I'm thinking about voting for Ron Paul, he wants to legalize marijuana!!
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Uber Member
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Jul 31, 2008, 04:06 PM
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I actually think that if enough people had gotten together and made a stand that we the people support a third candidate this time around we may have had a chance to get another person voted in but everybody says 'wasted vote' and then nothing is done.
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Jul 31, 2008, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by progunr
I'm thinking about voting for Ron Paul, he wants to legalize marijuana!!!
Then do so. There' nothing wrong with voting for Ron Paul. It's his campaign that messed him up. He was my first choice. I'd take him or Huckabee over McCain and Romney any day. When the Republican party chose McCain, I threw my support behind whomever the Democrat ended up being, which was Barack Obama. IMO a much better choice than Hillary Clinton, so I'm glad it ended up being Obama. BTW I'm a registered Independent. I wish Ron Paul would had left the Republican party and started running as an Independent, maybe things would had turned out differently. The country is fed up with both major parties. I'd much rather had supported a decent third party candidate, than supporting the Democrat just to balance out the pendulum swing from the Bush debacle.
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Jul 31, 2008, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by progunr
I'm thinking about voting for Ron Paul, he wants to legalize marijuana!!!
I just read that marijuana is the most valuable crop in america, passed up corn recently.
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Jul 31, 2008, 04:37 PM
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We do agree on something.
McCain is no conservative, by any sense of the word.
The only reason to vote for him, would be the type of Supreme Court Justices he would appoint vs. any appointments from the left side of the aisle.
We don't need anymore legislation from the bench.
The fact that it was a 4 to 3 vote on the Second Amendment, is evidence enough for me to take this position.
What really killed Ron Paul, was his cut and run from Iraq plan.
While I agree we need to get out of there, it needs to be done with a calculated plan that does not allow the current situation there to cave in.
We have lost many lives to get where we are now. It will cost a few more lives, to get to a level of success, that would insure the stability we have helped create, can remain in effect, and that is what needs to be accomplished before we leave.
If Ron Paul would have presented such a withdrawal plan, we might not be having these debates.
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Senior Member
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Jul 31, 2008, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by asking
I just read that marijuana is the most valuable crop in america, passed up corn recently.
I wouldn't be surprised. I read somewhere that it is because of the multiple uses for hemp.
Originally Posted by progunr
We do agree on something.
Actually more than you recognize. But I don't have to time to list what was overlooked in earlier posts.
Originally Posted by progunr
McCain is no conservative, by any sense of the word.
Many of the die hard Bush supporters will undoubtedly vote McCain. And we all know the Republican party tagged Dubya as not being conservative enough. The Libertarians are generally closer to being just as conservative, if not more, than many Republicans.
Originally Posted by progunr
What really killed Ron Paul, was his cut and run from Iraq plan.
While I agree we need to get out of there, it needs to be done with a calculated plan that does not allow the current situation there to cave in.
We have lost many lives to get where we are now. It will cost a few more lives, to get to a level of success, that would insure the stability we have helped create, can remain in effect, and that is what needs to be accomplished before we leave.
If Ron Paul would have presented such a withdrawal plan, we might not be having these debates.
Most people don't realize Ron Paul got railroaded by the Republican party. He actually would had used a redeployment strategy as proposed by other candidates, mainly Democrats. His Republican party didn't like the fact that he called them on wanting to keep an open door of continuous war available. On again, off gain, on again. He saw right through the Republican party's earlier scheme when G. Herbert Walker Bush went in, then out of Iraq, only to be followed by Dubya Bush approx ten years later. Ron Paul wanted to put a stop to the revolving door. The Republican candidates did their best to ostracize Ron Paul. Personally I support phased re-deployment.
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Aug 3, 2008, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BABRAM
Then do so. There' nothing wrong with voting for Ron Paul. It's his campaign that messed him up. He was my first choice. I'd take him or Huckabee over McCain and Romney any day. When the Republican party chose McCain, I threw my support behind whomever the Democrat ended up being, which was Barack Obama. IMO a much better choice than Hillary Clinton, so I'm glad it ended up being Obama. BTW I'm a registered Independent. I wish Ron Paul would had left the Republican party and started off running as an Independent, maybe things would had turned out differently. The country is fed up with both major parties. I'd much rather had supported a decent third party candidate, than supporting the Democrat just to balance out the pendulum swing from the Bush debacle.
I totally agree. I was disappointed that he left the Libertarian party too. I guess it was the only way he could get money from the government to help run his campaign. Without media help though, it wasn't much use.
I looked up various indictments handed down to both major political party leaders over these past years and the lists are huge. The things these elected people do to help themselves at our expense is incredible - and yet we must keep voting them into office. What's wrong with this picture?
We do need to elect a third party and a new Congress too.
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