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    Nov 24, 2013, 08:52 PM
    Howling noise w on two different toulets
    When flushed they are stacked.
    I took a hose on the roof of my two story house but ran into a stoppage app 10 feet down . It feels like a bend in the pupe rather than a. Lo kage but I cannot tell.
    Beaides the gent pipes what elsecould it be?
    I replaced the refill valve in one toiletbut that didn't work
    Any ideas?
    Thanks
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    Nov 24, 2013, 09:46 PM
    Do you get the noise when the toilet is flushing or when the tank is refilling?
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    Nov 24, 2013, 09:48 PM
    When refilling
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    Nov 24, 2013, 09:55 PM
    Noise will be from vibrating washer somewhere. Could be fill valve but more likely to be in the stop valve. Replace stop valves, probably will be the stop valve lower floor. To test, turn off stop valve lower floor and flush upper toilet.
    If not successful look for stop valve on cold water pipe to bathrooms.
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    Nov 24, 2013, 09:57 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hkstroud View Post
    Noise will be from vibrating washer somewhere. Could be fill valve but more likely to be in the stop valve. Replace stop valves, probably will be the stop valve lower floor. To test, turn off stop valve lower floor and flush upper toilet.
    Thank you so if the lower shut off valve is bad the upper toilet would wlso howl when refilling?
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:17 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hkstroud View Post
    Noise will be from vibrating washer somewhere. Could be fill valve but more likely to be in the stop valve. Replace stop valves, probably will be the stop valve lower floor. To test, turn off stop valve lower floor and flush upper toilet.
    If not successful look for stop valve on cold water pipe to bathrooms.
    I tested both stop valves and it still humms on both floors
    All I see is the hoyse shut off valve outside could there be more shut off valves to the cold water someqhere?
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:27 PM
    What happens if you turn on a faucet while the toilet is refilling?
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hkstroud View Post
    What happens if you turn on a faucet while the toilet is refilling?
    It gets louder
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:32 PM
    At the main shut off valve, feel the pipe while the toilet is filling and the faucet is open. Do you have a pressure reducing valve.
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hkstroud View Post
    At the main shut off valve, feel the pipe while the toilet is filling and the faucet is open. Do you have a pressure reducing valve.
    I don't know what a prv looks like
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:36 PM
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:38 PM
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    No I don't see one
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:42 PM
    Do you feel vibration on the pipe at the main shut off valve while the toilet is filling and the faucet is opening (when the howling is loudest)?
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hkstroud View Post
    Do you feel vibration on the pipe at the main shut off valve while the toilet is filling and the faucet is opening (when the howling is loudest)?
    Ill have to check in the am its outside and dirt is all around the gate valve I will have to dig and expise the galve and pipe more
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:47 PM
    If it's a gate valve it won't be that. Gate valves do not have washers. Do you get any noise when using hot water?
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hkstroud View Post
    If it's a gate valve it won't be that. Gate valves do not have washers. Do you get any noise when using hot water?
    No
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:51 PM
    Somewhere in the cold water line there must be a stop valve.
    Set up the howling and start feeling the pipes for vibration. Sound travels everywhere. The greater the vibration you feel the closer you are to the source.
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hkstroud View Post
    Somewhere in the cold water line there must be a stop valve.
    Set up the howling and start feeling the pipes for vibration. Sound travels everywhere. The greater the vibration you feel the closer you are to the source.
    Maybe the valve for the washing machine but that's a gate valve looking shut off
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:55 PM
    Be very unusual to have a gate valve for a washer. Could you mean a 1/4 turn valve?
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    Nov 24, 2013, 10:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by hkstroud View Post
    Be very unusual to have a gate valve for a washer.
    Ok ill test it

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