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    #681

    Sep 12, 2013, 02:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Speaking of unions, in spite of some serious lobbying from the White House the AFL-CIO went on record with a vote on a resolution critical of Obamacare.



    Seems we aren't the only ones not happy with Zero care. The emperor is not having a good week... serves him right. The rest of us who warned you about him? Not so much. Thanks for foistng this nightmare on us.

    Big unions, big government and big business will work things out to the satisfaction of 'the big three'. As for the rest of us... Well, I guess its tough luck.

    There seems to be an inability to understand that it is the political system that actively promotes this type of solution. It doesn't matter who the emperor is now, or who he will be in the future.
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    #682

    Sep 12, 2013, 05:13 AM
    I understand, but this guy has managed to make America a laughingstock. But then he does believe we need to be knocked down a few notches, in that he's succeeded.
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    #683

    Sep 12, 2013, 06:33 AM
    Hello again,

    Trader Joe's to DROP health coverage for it's part time workers...

    But, that AIN'T a bad thing.. It's what's SUPPOSED to happen. A small business SAVES money, and his part time workers STILL get affordable health care.
    Depending on income you may earn outside of Trader Joe's, -- i.e. another job -- we believe that with the $500 from Trader Joe's and the tax credits available under the ACA, many of you should be able to obtain health care coverage at very little if any net cost to you.
    Whaddya know about that?

    Excon
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    #684

    Sep 12, 2013, 06:45 AM
    Only a lib would think pushing people out of their employer sponsored insurance and dependent on government largesse is a success. Oh, and did you catch that phrasing? "Many of you should be able to obtain health care coverage at very little if any net cost to you."

    And if they can't?
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    #685

    Sep 12, 2013, 06:54 AM
    Hello again, Steve:
    And if they can't?
    Only a lib would want everybody's cost for health insurance to be the same.

    But, it's even worse than that.. I don't think ANY employer should be burdened with his employees health care costs. That is, if you want OUR industry to be competitive with the WORLD'S industry, and the WORLD'S industry DOESN'T have that burden.

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    #686

    Sep 12, 2013, 06:57 AM
    Libs believe in dragging everyone DOWN to their level... rather thant raising people up to the level of others.
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    #687

    Sep 12, 2013, 07:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Libs believe in dragging everyone DOWN to their level...rather thant raising people up to the level of others.
    What are Repubs doing to raise people up?
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    #688

    Sep 12, 2013, 07:03 AM
    Hello again, smoothy:

    I don't know.. The post above yours that I, a VERY liberal person, wrote, IS PRO business ALL THE WAY...

    But, you're right about one thing, though... I'm a VERY liberal person AND a VERY successful businessman. I believe in dragging people UP to my level.

    Bwa, ha ha ha.

    excon
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    #689

    Sep 12, 2013, 07:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:Only a lib would want everybody's cost for health insurance to be the same.

    But, it's even worse than that.. I don't think ANY employer should be burdened with his employees health care costs. That is, if you want OUR industry to be competitive with the WORLD'S industry, and the WORLD'S industry DOESN'T have that burden.

    excon
    Only a lib would believe that offering benefits in a competitive marketplace is a bad thing. Some of really liked it that way, ask the unions.
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    #690

    Sep 12, 2013, 07:06 AM
    I don't believe the government has any business dispensing heath care out to anyone... because they have demonstrated how their corruption is so deep their best friends will get everything they want.. cost being no object... while those that they dislike will be denied basic services...
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    #691

    Sep 12, 2013, 07:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    I don't believe the government has any business dispensing heath care out to anyone
    They aren't. The insurance companies are, as always.
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    Sep 12, 2013, 07:13 AM
    Hello again, smoothy:
    they have demonstrated how their corruption is so deep their best friends will get everything they want.. cost being no object... while those that they dislike will be denied basic services...
    I don't know. I'm on Medicare. They don't know my politics. They just pay the bills. And, they pay EVERYBODY'S bills regardless of their political persuasion..

    How is it, that you DON'T know that?

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    Sep 12, 2013, 07:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    They aren't. The insurance companies are, as always.
    I get mine from my doctor.
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    #694

    Sep 12, 2013, 07:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    They aren't. The insurance companies are, as always.
    Not under Obamacare they won't be.
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    #695

    Sep 12, 2013, 07:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy:
    I dunno. I'm on Medicare. They don't know my politics. They just pay the bills. And, they pay EVERYBODY'S bills regardless of their political persuasion..

    How is it, that you DON'T know that?

    excon
    Obamacare isn't Medicare... and nothing Obama has ever done has been impartial or unbiased in any aspect.
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    #696

    Sep 12, 2013, 07:27 AM
    Hello again, smoothy:
    Not under Obamacare they won't be.
    Apparently, you think Obamacare is single payer. It's NOT. You will get your health insurance from health insurance companies just like you always have.

    How is it, that you don't know that?

    Look.. Over the past few days, you've exhibited absolutely NO grasp of what's going on around you... Step away from FOX News, Drudge, and I'd turn off that Jones dude too.

    Excon
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    #697

    Sep 12, 2013, 07:34 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy:
    Apparently, you think Obamacare is single payer. It's NOT. You will get your health insurance from health insurance companies just like you always have.

    How is it, that you don't know that?

    Look.. Over the past few days, you've exhibited absolutely NO grasp of what's going on around you... Step away from FOX News, Drudge, and I'd turn off that Jones dude too.

    excon
    I think its you that thinks the government isn't completely involved in Obamacare...

    In fact its already proven it will cost at least three times as much as current medical insurance does... and coverage will be fare less...

    Just so a few million illegals will get free healthcare.

    Only Jesus CHrist was able to feed the masses with a single fish and one loaf of bread.

    Somehow the Democrats think Obama can do even more than that.
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    #698

    Sep 12, 2013, 08:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Not under Obamacare they won't be.
    My son, who is a part-time employee, pays for his own health care, has BC-BS. He is already getting mailings from insurance companies asking him to check into their plans and switch.
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    #699

    Sep 12, 2013, 10:18 AM
    Yeah.. a real bargain with half the coverage at twice the price.
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    Sep 12, 2013, 10:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Yeah..a real bargain with half the coverage at twice the price.
    Actually, no.

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